shah269 0 #1 May 23, 2012 OK I lasted 5 months almost 6 bite me! http://www.forbes.com/sites/robertwood/2012/05/22/when-im-too-sexy-lawsuit-settles-will-irs-win-too/ Yeah well I wish I had this problem in the engineering world! My god what is up with these engineering....aahh...I think they are ladies! Socks and sandals? Sweat pants to work? Eyebrows connected? One size too small pants three sizes too big polo shirt? I saw one rocking a sorry in the office the other day? REALLY! I mean really! If this were a finance office how fast would she be out on her ass! I mean really! Let alone would she even be hired and if so how far away from the customers and day light would she be? Look I know I can be mean but let's be honest engineering ladies.......dressing to impress just isn't your thing. But why? Come on!Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #2 May 23, 2012 Quote OK I lasted 5 months almost 6 bite me! http://www.forbes.com/sites/robertwood/2012/05/22/when-im-too-sexy-lawsuit-settles-will-irs-win-too/ Yeah well I wish I had this problem in the engineering world! My god what is up with these engineering....aahh...I think they are ladies! Socks and sandals? Sweat pants to work? Eyebrows connected? One size too small pants three sizes too big polo shirt? I saw one rocking a sorry in the office the other day? REALLY! I mean really! If this were a finance office how fast would she be out on her ass! I mean really! Let alone would she even be hired and if so how far away from the customers and day light would she be? Look I know I can be mean but let's be honest engineering ladies.......dressing to impress just isn't your thing. But why? Come on! Perhaps they believe doing the job they were hired to do is more important and don't give a flying fuck about the staff misogynist getting a stiffie on the job... go figure Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #3 May 24, 2012 To the poorly dressed engineering chicks, Does this building look like your house? Do these 4 walls and roof look like a place you may call home? Do all these computers and people sitting at their desks at all remind you of your residence? No? THEN WHY THE HELL ARE YOU DRESSED AS IF YOU JUST FELL OUT OF BED YOU SLOB! Dress as you work! Professionally! I don't wear ties and business shoes unless I have a meeting but god darn it I dress in a button up shirt that fits and is clean and a pair of pants that are ironed and fitted. Why? Because I RESPECT MYSELF and I RESPECT MY PEARS! Now poorly dressed engineering I know we are in a 52 dicks and 2 chicks situation where let's face it as the chick you are going to hear more "yes's" than if you were walking into a men's prison with a fist full of pardons. And 99% of the make engineers will just have a shit eating grin on their face and say yes to just about anything you want. But with me The Shah the gig is up. Dress to impress or I will look down my well developed nose as you for I know that outside of these walls in any bar in any town in any place in any time....you couldn't get a drink if your life depended on it! Now pardon me while I fabreeze the hallway the temperature has gone up and it appears a few of the engineers have yet to discover soap water or deodorant!Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fearjoburg 0 #4 May 24, 2012 Why don't you show a little more respect to woman. No wonder you are still single. Asshole Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymama 37 #5 May 24, 2012 QuoteBecause I RESPECT MYSELF and I RESPECT MY PEARS! What about grapes and apples? Kiwis too! You should respect more than just the pears, you're going to hurt the feelings of the other fruit.She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man, because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #6 May 24, 2012 I drink Sangria. At times when I'm at meetings both in my facility as well as others all I can think of is "Lady the Peopleorwallmart.com called, and want to know what the hell were you thinking! Leggings and flip flops in the office!" and hey it's not like the guys are any better either....wooh it's starting to get "ripe" in the engineering offices! Boys curry and butter do not qualify as deodorant! It hits you like a brick to the face when you walk into the offices. And it sticks with you. Before I go out after work I have to go home shower and change my clothes just to get the funk out of my skin!Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 16 #7 May 24, 2012 Years ago I had a well built coworker that liked to go braless. The boss quietly told her it was a distraction and to please buy some foundation garments. Damn.Vskydiver, back when she worked in a local hospital, liked to dress nicely. She had to put up with some cattiness from her female boss because all the doctors wanted to talk to her, not the boss. Go figure. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #8 May 24, 2012 Look I'm not saying dress as if you were going out to a go go bar but....you know.....sweat pants? yoga pants? really? Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgoose71 0 #9 May 24, 2012 Long and forgotten......http://www.forbes.com/2006/04/11/office-dress-codes-cx_sr_0411officedress.html "There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 16 #10 May 25, 2012 Quote Some places are still 'short and T-shirt' but that has largely died out with the dot com bust. I actually turned down a consulting job earlier this year because it was a suit and tie shop and I'm just not a suit and tie guy. My brother-in-law is a programmer for Sun. He talks about suits-to-sandals ratios for determining the focus and emphasis of meetings, conventions, etc. Where I work, an FAA air traffic control facility, we had an official dress code for about 5 years, slacks and collared shirts. Not bad. Our last contract overturned that code, so now some of the guys literally wear gym shorts, shower sandals or those godawful orange plastic clogs. One overweight hairy guy was wearing tank tops until enough people complained to actually cause some peer pressure. I'm glad I can wear casual shorts and t-shirts to work, but I usually wear jeans and a polo shirt or better. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #11 May 25, 2012 QuoteMy brother-in-law is a programmer for Sun. Is, or was?"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #12 May 25, 2012 Your facility at least has standards. I know of another facility that my brother works at that they have "Ugly shirt day" on Friday and weekends. My brothers closet looks like the 70's threw up in there with all the plaid, stripes and animal prints. I have worked from home for the last 7 years and I love my casual dress code. Mine is more casual than most offices in that I don't think that wearing gym shorts to meetings works everywhere. That being said I have been offered jobs going back into an office for more money and I just can't bring myself to have to dress up every day again.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #13 May 25, 2012 Quote I have worked from home for the last 7 years and I love my casual dress code. Mine is more casual than most offices in that I don't think that wearing gym shorts to meetings works everywhere. That being said I have been offered jobs going back into an office for more money and I just can't bring myself to have to dress up every day again. My office is typically business casual. Jeans are okay depending on what I have to do that day - if I'm meeting with the higher-ups I'll wear something nicer but if I'm just chilling at my cube I'll wear jeans. But we're not allowed to go as casual as shorts/t-shirts; pants/skirts and collared shirts or sweaters are expected. I've just switched back to a job where I spend a decent amount of time in the office from a job where I worked from home a lot more. If the office weren't 1) a 20 minute walk from home and 2) somewhere where I can be relatively casual, I'd be less excited about being back into an office environment. That said, I'm enjoying working from home today. All that said, to the original poster, there's not a damn thing wrong with wearing a sari to an office. One of the brightest, funniest, and most competent women I've had the pleasure to work with at my current company often wears traditional Indian garb to the office. She always looks well put-together and office-appropriate; seems kind of ridiculous for me to require that her clothes adhere to "western" style when there's nothing inappropriate about what she's wearing. It'd be like me going to our Hawaii regional office and insisting they wear a shirt & tie when Hawaiian shirts are considered appropriate business attire there."There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 16 #14 May 25, 2012 Quote Quote My brother-in-law is a programmer for Sun. Is, or was? Still employed in the Boston area with some company in the aftermath of it all. CTO @ Harvard. Doin' pretty well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrewEckhardt 0 #15 May 25, 2012 Quote But, I will say that you should dress for the shop. Some places are still 'short and T-shirt' but that has largely died out with the dot com bust. Nearly every place I've visited and every place I've worked building software (perhaps packaged as a hardware appliance) has been dress-code free. Some engineers (me included) wear shorts, t-shirts, and sandals with socks plus black fleece so I don't freeze. Some prefer slacks or jeans. Some prefer running shoes or hiking boots. A few wear hats. Suspenders are rare. Male executives, board members, sales staff, and managers generally choose a shirt and slacks. A few of the grey-haired crowd wear ties. I think that's how it should be. I want my co-workers dressed however they'll be most comfortable and therefore productive with exceptions for full and partial nudity that would offend my American puritanical sensibilities. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
champu 1 #16 May 25, 2012 Jeans and a collared shirt is the standard at my work. Although there are plenty of non-collared shirts that still look nice and that's fine too. Most people, myself included, avoid running shoes in favor of more low-key Vans or Sketchers. If I'm at universities, on travel for meetings, or working with vendors or customers, I'll bump it up to slacks/khakis and a dress shirt. If I'm presenting at a major review or whatnot I'll wear a suit and tie. If I have to be out on the floor with flight hardware it's been anything from an ESD smock and a bouffant cap to a full bunny suit. (over my normal clothes of course) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #17 May 26, 2012 1. Presentation counts. 2. Casual shouldn't mean slovenly. 3. Dress as you want to be seen: Serious, professional, upward-bound and ready to meet clients. Here is how it works, I rock an ironed button up shirt. I enjoy the bright colors of Express. No tie unless I have a meeting WITH ANYONE! Pants are fitted and ironed. My only down side is shoes. I do wear sneakers however if i'm at a meeting.....WITH ANYONE...and put on my business shoes. It's simple. I respect others and expect the same from them. If i were in India or East Asia where such clothing is ok then sure I would be ok. But last i checked my office is located with in the bounds of the USA and as such I find of offensive. Be it in dress or in smell. It's an engineering office not East Bombay in the middle of August! I don't care what letters come after your last name OR how "funny" or "smart" you are! Stop disrespecting me! Now ladies before you get very angry at me, do you know what I find amazingly attractive on a woman in the office? Simple, black slacks or pencil skirt, simple white top and decent heels. I'm sorry the universe gave me these things called eyes and as such we ALL judge others before they say a single word! And for the record smell is the quickest way to make a lasting impression. So say it with me soap + water + deodorant = happy people!Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
