champu 1 #101 November 5, 2011 QuoteNow, what is a kid looking up to? I was at an engineering career expo for a couple days at my alma mater last fall to talk with people, take resumes, socialize at an HKN dinner, and give a guest lecture (in the Siebel Center, which was awesome) about what it is I actually do with my degrees. I had a great time and I learned a lot. I'd have done it again this year but I didn't get enough notice and I couldn't get away. Some people want to tackle spectacular problems and make headlines, some people want to work on the next ultra-secret spooky program, and some people just want to stretch the capabilities in some industry that people are going to take for granted but it's okay because they see that particular challenge as interesting. And you know what? It's all great engineering. (Hey, someone had to invent the cardboard pizza box with the pop-out bit that holds the sauce off to the side.) I read about your bad experiences and I feel pity, not commiseration. I work with great minds on risky things and I have fun doing it, my place is worth double what I owe on it, and I'm dating a wonderful and gorgeous skydiver who is also an engineer. You must be doing it all wrong. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
emmiwy 0 #102 November 7, 2011 Quote I read about your bad experiences and I feel pity, not commiseration. I work with great minds on risky things and I have fun doing it, my place is worth double what I owe on it, and I'm dating a wonderful and gorgeous skydiver who is also an engineer. You must be doing it all wrong. She is one really lucky girl. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #103 November 7, 2011 Quote Quote I read about your bad experiences and I feel pity, not commiseration. I work with great minds on risky things and I have fun doing it, my place is worth double what I owe on it, and I'm dating a wonderful and gorgeous skydiver who is also an engineer. You must be doing it all wrong. She is one really lucky girl. I see what you did there it's you isn't itYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
emmiwy 0 #104 November 7, 2011 Quote Quote Quote I read about your bad experiences and I feel pity, not commiseration. I work with great minds on risky things and I have fun doing it, my place is worth double what I owe on it, and I'm dating a wonderful and gorgeous skydiver who is also an engineer. You must be doing it all wrong. She is one really lucky girl. I see what you did there it's you isn't it Is it not entirely possible that I could be paying champu a compliment? :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #105 November 7, 2011 Quote Is it not entirely possible that I could be paying champu a compliment? :) NOCya's in 5 weeksYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,072 #106 November 7, 2011 >Hell man in a way we are worse off than 1985.... In 1985 we did not have solid state storage for media. I built a massive one (4 by 4 inches) that fit one song at a low sampling rate for a project. Now I can fit every song I own on a chip the size of a stamp. In 1985 the only email systems were on university computers. Now email is how most business is transacted. In 1985 there was no Internet (as we know it now.) It is now one of the backbones of our economy. You can surf the web from your phone while flying across the country. In 1985 a "portable computer" was a sewing machine sized device with a lead acid battery and a detachable keyboard. It weighed 28 pounds and cost $4000. Today I have a portable phone that I bought for $99. I can point it at a city street and the system will recognize the street and superimpose locations of my friends and add labels to all the buildings. It recognizes voice commands and will transcribe voice to text. I can hold it up when a song is playing and it will tell me what the lyrics are, It supports word processors, spreadsheets, maps and cameras. In 1985 spaceflight was purely a government/military operation. Now we have space tourism at our space station, and we have several private companies competing in the launch business - one of whom is launching payloads into orbit. In 1985 the state of the art in artificial intelligence were chess playing computers. Now we have vehicles that can drive through busy cities autonomously. We have cars you can buy that will park themselves and stop themselves before a collision. In 1985 HIV was a death sentence. Now it is very treatable, with 5 year survival rates nearly the same as non-infected populations, and 10 year survival rates pretty close. I think we've made a lot of progress, overall. None of it as flashy as landing on the moon, but in terms of technology improving people's lives, we have made some pretty big strides in the past 25 years. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobMoore 0 #107 November 7, 2011 QuoteI think we've made a lot of progress, overall. None of it as flashy as landing on the moon, but in terms of technology improving people's lives, we have made some pretty big strides in the past 25 years. Let's not forget the three ring release replacing the shot-and-a-half capewells, the BOC pilot chute location, and the elimination of pull tabs on soda pop cans."For you see, an airplane is an airplane. A landing area is a landing area. But a dropzone... a dropzone is the people." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SivaGanesha 2 #108 November 7, 2011 QuoteI read about your bad experiences and I feel pity, not commiseration. I work with great minds on risky things and I have fun doing it, my place is worth double what I owe on it, and I'm dating a wonderful and gorgeous skydiver who is also an engineer. You must be doing it all wrong. By definition when you work on risky things, sometimes it doesn't work out. That's what it means to take a risk. It sounds like engineering has worked out better for you than for shah. It doesn't necessarily follow that shah is "doing it all wrong"."It's hard to have fun at 4-way unless your whole team gets down to the ground safely to do it again!"--Northern California Skydiving League re USPA Safety Day, March 8, 2014 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 851 #109 November 7, 2011 History would lead you to believe that he is though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #110 November 7, 2011 Quote Quote I think we've made a lot of progress, overall. None of it as flashy as landing on the moon, but in terms of technology improving people's lives, we have made some pretty big strides in the past 25 years. Let's not forget the three ring release replacing the shot-and-a-half capewells, the BOC pilot chute location, and the elimination of pull tabs on soda pop cans. All true, all great things... But well....now I can get porn on my smart phone...which is very nice. I can store that HD porn no problem. And skydiving has gotten much safer and all cars are FI and did i mention the porn? I don't know? I do love my flat screen tv...and the porn and the fake tits look great! It's almost as if innovation has slowed down....where is the high speed rail where is the "WOW!" I don't know.....I think we can and should have done better. But I'm one of those guys who is never content where things are now and how they have been and want things to be better. Also a friend just said the new phones do 3D porn! 3D PORN! ON A FREAKING PHONE! Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
champu 1 #111 November 7, 2011 QuoteQuoteI read about your bad experiences and I feel pity, not commiseration. I work with great minds on risky things and I have fun doing it, my place is worth double what I owe on it, and I'm dating a wonderful and gorgeous skydiver who is also an engineer. You must be doing it all wrong. By definition when you work on risky things, sometimes it doesn't work out. That's what it means to take a risk. It sounds like engineering has worked out better for you than for shah. It doesn't necessarily follow that shah is "doing it all wrong". I've worked on more than one thing that didn't end up panning out. You spend months or however long on a team crunching the numbers on an incredible idea but sometimes the devil in the details gets the better of that idea. Maybe the project gets mothballed waiting for that one vaporware component to come along or maybe it gets shit-canned altogether. Either way, you take what you learned and you work on something else. I was responding to Shah's dismay that engineers only fiddle with the mundane, that the entire middle class is underwater on real estate, that skydiving chicks are all fat, and that engineering women are all ugly. Who knows, maybe he's just in a bad neighborhood, or maybe it doesn't matter what neighborhood he's in. Quote3D PORN! There be dragons. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #112 November 7, 2011 WOW now I never said skydiving chicks were chunky! No on I said Engineering chicks were chunky! Skydiving chicks have a reason to stay in shape....those freaking jump suits don't strech and well...let's face it they are a bit spendy....So your average skydiving chick has to stay in shape or spend cash on those expando Tonysuit! But can you think of a better place for a single girl to be other than say an engineering office or a DZ? 52 dudes......and 2 chicks!Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amstalder 0 #113 November 7, 2011 Quote But can you think of a better place for a single girl to be other than say an engineering office or a DZ? 52 dudes......and 2 chicks! Did you ever think that maybe some women don't want to date those they work with? And the day I met my husband there were about 6 women on the DZ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amstalder 0 #114 November 7, 2011 Shah, if you are so dead set against kids, get a vasectomy. No big deal. As for your question about having kids in your late 40s.... My bio dad has three girls under 6, wants to have more, and he's in his late 40s. So for some it does work. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 851 #115 November 8, 2011 and along that same mindset.... I'm nearing my FINAL CHILD SUPPORT PAYMENT!!!! From a high of $2000 a month..... and Shah, you bitch about your mortgage...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amstalder 0 #116 November 8, 2011 Quote and along that same mindset.... I'm nearing my FINAL CHILD SUPPORT PAYMENT!!!! From a high of $2000 a month..... and Shah, you bitch about your mortgage...... JESUS. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 851 #117 November 8, 2011 I you can't feed 'em ..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #118 November 8, 2011 QuoteWhat is wrong with engineers? I'm starting to wonder the exact same thing.Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #119 November 8, 2011 Quote and along that same mindset.... I'm nearing my FINAL CHILD SUPPORT PAYMENT!!!! From a high of $2000 a month..... and Shah, you bitch about your mortgage...... JUDAS I'm running low on trust I'm never ever having kids..... Can't tell you how many guys I know who are paying as much as you. You engineers I want the male pill! WtfLife through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
champu 1 #120 November 8, 2011 QuoteWOW now I never said skydiving chicks were chunky! No on I said Engineering chicks were chunky! Meh, your complaints about women all blur together. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #121 November 8, 2011 QuoteQuoteWOW now I never said skydiving chicks were chunky! No on I said Engineering chicks were chunky! Meh, your complaints about women all blur together. I'm more complex than that. But I still think, there is no better place for a single girl is an engineering shop if she can't get into a DZ. As one above pointed out, "When I met my husband there were 6 other girls..." well duuuuh! You could have not shaved your legs for a few months and smelled of ferret and odds are some guy at an engineering shop or maybe even your local DZ, would come over and lay a pick up line on you about how he likes how your hairs poke out of your pantyhose. A few years back, there was this very attractive women in my Yoga class, her kid....well....no clue what went wrong there. Where the mom was smart well mannered and slim and athletic...her kid....well she reminded me of an ill tempered refrigerator. One day the woman was talking about not sure what her daughter was going to study and where she was going to go to school. I told her to send the kid to engineering school. At first the mother hesitated stating that her kid at the moment was socially inept and had never had a date blab la bla and wanting grand kids....and I said "Send her to an engineering school! If you want grand kids...engineering school!" This was the start of her Junior year, prom year. Well the mom listened and convinced her kid to consider engineering schools. Well! Winter break the "refrigerator" went off to one of those early orientations....well the next week the mom came over to me and was downright giddy! WELL! As it turned out the refrigerator was the only girl at the camp who was not wearing a burka and so it was 52 guys to 1 girl...she met a guy...and he asked her to not only his prom but was also taking her to her prom! I couldn't help but feel not only happy for the mom but just downright sad for the field. Engineering...where ill tempered foul mouthed refrigerator's with zero interpersonal skills go to feel as if they were head cheer leader! So, what do we expect from a population of people who lack the basic biological drive to strive and push and excel so as to find the hottest girl (aka with the best DNA) and impress her? And with that total and unadulterated lack of game and back bone...I give you the Prius and other POS cars that look as if they were squeezed out of an elephants rectum. Maybe that's why my phone can stream porn!?Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 16 #122 November 8, 2011 You crack me up, Shah. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobMoore 0 #123 November 8, 2011 QuoteI couldn't help but feel not only happy for the mom but just downright sad for the field. Engineering...where ill tempered foul mouthed refrigerator's with zero interpersonal skills go to feel as if they were head cheer leader! Wait. Aren't you an engineer? Do you enjoy shaking pom poms?"For you see, an airplane is an airplane. A landing area is a landing area. But a dropzone... a dropzone is the people." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,072 #124 November 8, 2011 >So, what do we expect from a population of people who lack the basic biological drive . . . Not to belabor the point, but you've told us all, several times, that you lack the most basic biological drive there is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cocheese 0 #125 November 8, 2011 Just because a man wants to drive his biology into a woman, doesn't mean he wants to have kids. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
