wayneflorida 0 #1 October 10, 2011 Very nice water landing. 6Ps- Proper planning prevents piss poor performance. http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/08/us/hawaii-plane-emergency/index.html?hpt=us_c2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beerlight 0 #2 October 10, 2011 Any report on "why" he ran out? Excess fuel feed, leak, etc? He's a ferry pilot, I'm sure he started with the required amount. edit to add: Nice ditch! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jrmrangers 0 #3 October 10, 2011 Im no pilot or aviation expert but the article said the plane had a max of 1900 or so miles and that Hilo was 2300 miles away. last i checked 2300 was more than 1900. Wait , I pull what first? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beerlight 0 #4 October 10, 2011 Quote Im no pilot or aviation expert but the article said the plane had a max of 1900 or so miles and that Hilo was 2300 miles away. last i checked 2300 was more than 1900. It was set up for "ferry". Extended range tanks were installed. The range listed in the article was for normal range. Something happened and it easily could have been a venting issue, or a leak of unknown origin, etc, etc, etc... Most people jump to conclusions, especially the media. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Conundrum 1 #5 October 10, 2011 Ferry's of that length usually carry extra fuel tanks on board. I wonder if there was a crazy headwind, leak, or just a plain ol "ya done goofed!" Sucks either way. but thankfully no one was hurt (except the plane ) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #6 October 10, 2011 It could have been running too rich over that distance and with a stronger headwind that would compound the issue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #7 October 10, 2011 Yeah. A Cessna 310R maxes out, I believe, at about 200 gallons with wing tanks and auxiliary tanks installed. Going from Monterey to Hilo – I think it probably was the shortest route he could have gone. Imagine what just a slight difference in the wind would do for that. Hit an extra 3 knots of headwind over ten hours and you’ve had a really bad day. He was a mere 13 miles short. I read a report that he spent the last hour on the deck – I assume it was where the best tailwinds were but I’m really interested in the facts of the investigation. The weather, fuel planning. Did he calculate enough for 30 minutes reserve or did he get a waiver for it? I don’t know but I’m really interested to find out. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wayneflorida 0 #8 October 10, 2011 With about two more gallons he could have made it. 13 miles/180 kts = .0722 hrs x 26 gals per hr = 1.88 gals.These are not exact of course, but a good guess. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,362 #9 October 10, 2011 Hi rocket, Quote Going from Monterey to Hilo – I think it probably was the shortest route he could have gone. My maps show that Cabo San Lucas, Mexico to Hawaii is a much shorter distance. That's what I would have done, but then I'm not a pilot. JerryBaumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #10 October 10, 2011 You may be right. Prolly are. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beerlight 0 #11 October 11, 2011 I'd be interested to know the winds aloft forecast and actuals. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
