kallend 2,026 #1 October 7, 2011 Long! www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?do=main.textpost&id=5751ecf1-73ef-4a3e-af5a-cbe60022dec3 Next episode on Monday. (Of course, maybe the article's author is crazy).... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #2 October 7, 2011 QuoteLong! www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?do=main.textpost&id=5751ecf1-73ef-4a3e-af5a-cbe60022dec3 Next episode on Monday. (Of course, maybe the article's author is crazy). The author is James (Capt Zoom) Campbell. He is unquestionably crazy. http://www.ousterhout.net/zoom.html http://www.wanttaja.com/zguide.htm (I am even mentioned on that second link.)"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Conundrum 1 #3 October 7, 2011 Quote (Of course, maybe the article's author is crazy). This. Cirrus is a great company and they make phenomenal aircraft. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 798 #4 October 7, 2011 Right up to the Chinese ownership part anyway..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rick 67 #5 October 7, 2011 Crazy or not he has one huge egoYou can't be drunk all day if you don't start early! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
futuredivot 0 #6 October 7, 2011 Yep-I'm gonna have to "no comment" this one You are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
futuredivot 0 #7 October 7, 2011 It is what it is-I'll give them this, they did a great job of marketing to pilot's wives.You are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #8 October 7, 2011 Quote Yep-I'm gonna have to "no comment" this one Don't wanna get "Zoomed", eh?"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #9 October 7, 2011 Quote Right up to the Chinese ownership part anyway..... The short term gains that some Americans are making to enrich themselves to the detriment to our country is rather telling. The firesale of our innovative companies and technologies is going to have a profound effect in the future of this country... but what the hell a few people got a lot richer right??? This.. just astounds meUSAFA had no alternatives??? http://www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?do=main.textpost&id=E8B63558-40B6-4FAA-923D-6CD24531D56F Quote USAF SR20 Cirrus Photo As ANN reported July 7, the Air Force Academy will receive 25 SR20 aircraft - designated as T-53A trainers in the customized configuration - starting this summer and continuing through 2012, in a deal reported to be worth $6.1 million. The Times reports as a "problem" that the aircraft maker's parent company is 100 percent owned by the Chinese communist government. Except for a brief challenge by Minnesota Republican Representative Chip Cravaak, who warned the US Treasury Department in March that the sale could compromise national security, the China angle was largely passed over in reporting of the deal. In what may come as unwelcome news to economic development officials in Duluth, the Times also found a report in the government-controlled English newspaper China Daily which said, "the acquisition of Cirrus will be an important step for [CAIGA's] global expansion plan, which aims to set up R&D, sales and service centers in China, the U.S. and Europe. The company currently has its manufacturing base in Zhuhai, Guangdong province." Given the credit facilities and other resources the Chinese government is putting behind its state-owned companies to buy US aviation manufacturing assets at their current depressed prices, these stories may not be front-page news much longer. The Chinese have always taken a far longer look into the future when making financial decisions.... it seems the get rich quick types here dont give a crap about that. Greed and short term gain... will destroy this country. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Conundrum 1 #10 October 7, 2011 QuoteIt is what it is-I'll give them this, they did a great job of marketing to pilot's wives. ? That's all the credit you give Cirrus? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 8 #11 October 7, 2011 Quote Cirrus is a great company and they make phenomenal aircraft. Think I'm going to fly a SR-20 next week, been wondering how that thing felt in the sky, after seeing them parked all over the damn ramp here."I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Conundrum 1 #12 October 7, 2011 The SR20 is a great plane, great trainer, too. You'll love it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 8 #13 October 7, 2011 Too rich for my blood, I'm flying the ol' 172 that keeps the Cirrus' tie downs warm. But, I figure it'll be fun to fly, even if just for another notch in the log book! "I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Conundrum 1 #14 October 8, 2011 Absolutely. Enjoy! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Calvin19 0 #15 October 8, 2011 QuoteQuote Cirrus is a great company and they make phenomenal aircraft. Think I'm going to fly a SR-20 next week, been wondering how that thing felt in the sky, after seeing them parked all over the damn ramp here. Just remember to fly the thing, look outside, and ignore as much as possible the video game built into the panel. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Conundrum 1 #16 October 8, 2011 lol, what's with all the hate on Cirrus? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #17 October 8, 2011 Quotelol, what's with all the hate on Cirrus? http://www.coloradodaily.com/ci_14348694#axzz1aDCeW5DH The tow plane pilot was a good friend of his."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Conundrum 1 #18 October 8, 2011 QuoteQuotelol, what's with all the hate on Cirrus? http://www.coloradodaily.com/ci_14348694#axzz1aDCeW5DH The tow plane pilot was a good friend of his. That's sucks, but there's no reason to hate on the aircraft itself. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Calvin19 0 #19 October 9, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuotelol, what's with all the hate on Cirrus? http://www.coloradodaily.com/ci_14348694#axzz1aDCeW5DH The tow plane pilot was a good friend of his. That's sucks, but there's no reason to hate on the aircraft itself. The airframe itself is awesome. I would fly one myself. It's the target market that I have a quarrel with. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 8 #20 October 9, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuotelol, what's with all the hate on Cirrus? http://www.coloradodaily.com/ci_14348694#axzz1aDCeW5DH The tow plane pilot was a good friend of his. That's sucks, but there's no reason to hate on the aircraft itself. The airframe itself is awesome. I would fly one myself. It's the target market that I have a quarrel with. Which would be??"I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Calvin19 0 #21 October 9, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuotelol, what's with all the hate on Cirrus? http://www.coloradodaily.com/ci_14348694#axzz1aDCeW5DH The tow plane pilot was a good friend of his. That's sucks, but there's no reason to hate on the aircraft itself. The airframe itself is awesome. I would fly one myself. It's the target market that I have a quarrel with. Which would be?? Underqualified muppets with enough money to buy a false sense of security. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 8 #22 October 9, 2011 Quote Underqualified muppets with enough money to buy a false sense of security. I couldn't afford one of those, so why learn in one? They are kinda purty and shiney, but I like the ol' 172, makes me think it has to be flown more. Though, there was a guy my CFI was working on his instrument rating, put the SR-20 on auto pilot thru a cloud, apparently the auto pilot couldn't really compensate for the altitude changes they were getting, so it was climbing, then diving, then climbing, then diving to try to get back on altitude."I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobMoore 0 #23 October 9, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteThe airframe itself is awesome. I would fly one myself. It's the target market that I have a quarrel with. Which would be?? Underqualified muppets with enough money to buy a false sense of security. It used to be V-tail Bonanzas (the Doctor killer) that took this kind of heat. Now it's the Cirrus. Don't you think it's a little ridiculous to paint such a broad generalization? I know several Cirrus owners who are competent and conservative and handle their plane quite well. If they walked down the flightline and climbed into a Mooney or Piper would they be any more capable?"For you see, an airplane is an airplane. A landing area is a landing area. But a dropzone... a dropzone is the people." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Conundrum 1 #24 October 9, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuotelol, what's with all the hate on Cirrus? http://www.coloradodaily.com/ci_14348694#axzz1aDCeW5DH The tow plane pilot was a good friend of his. That's sucks, but there's no reason to hate on the aircraft itself. The airframe itself is awesome. I would fly one myself. It's the target market that I have a quarrel with. Which would be?? Underqualified muppets with enough money to buy a false sense of security. That very well may be some of the pilots that are buying the Cirrus, but that is certainly not the "target market". Cirrus as a company is VERY safety and training oriented. Do you really think their target market is under qualified pilots? Do you think Cirrus enjoys when they have one of their planes go in? Independent sales might market to those types, but Cirrus does not. They have rigorous training programs and proficiency requirements when they sell to new owners, and for experienced pilots who are buying, they are strongly recommended to go to a Cirrus Training Center and go through the Cirrus Transition. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Calvin19 0 #25 October 9, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteThe airframe itself is awesome. I would fly one myself. It's the target market that I have a quarrel with. Which would be?? Underqualified muppets with enough money to buy a false sense of security. It used to be V-tail Bonanzas (the Doctor killer) that took this kind of heat. Now it's the Cirrus. Don't you think it's a little ridiculous to paint such a broad generalization? I know several Cirrus owners who are competent and conservative and handle their plane quite well. If they walked down the flightline and climbed into a Mooney or Piper would they be any more capable? I have no doubt they are regular old Chuck Yeagers. I'm talking more about the CAPS and the F-22 avionics being attractive to people who would rather deploy a parachute than navigate or rather watch a blip on a TV screen than look outside. In reality I'm just a cynic that can't fly airplanes and lost my best friend to an idiot not looking where he was going. Nothing wrong with Cirrus airplanes, or mooneys, or bonanzas. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
