BrokenR1 0 #76 September 22, 2011 QuotePlease show me an example of a manufacture of production street legal road cars that offers roll cages. I am not aware of a single manufacture who offers a roll cage as an extra. You want a roll cage? Fine, buy a car, strip the interior down to the bare metal and start welding in a roll cage. Once the roll cage is install, then start adding back the interior components. But as I said I am not aware of a single manufacture that offers roll cages in their production street legal cars as an option. The only manufactures I know that offer such a car are companies who build purpose built race cars. Who cares? You're the one stuck on manufacturers. Get over it and you'll be much happier. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Rap is to music what etch-a-sketch is to art. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chutem 0 #77 September 22, 2011 Quote Quote Quote I'd skip the built in navigation system - I like having a portable GPS so you can take it on trips. Rental cars are where I need my GPS, hopefully preloaded with all the motels, DZ's, etc. I, too, keep cars for years. I'd hate to have a 11-12 year old "state of the art" navigation system stuck in the middle of my dash. After over a decade of advances, a Ouija board or deck of Tarot cards would probably be better. I love my portable GPS... but it has a little something extra built into ithttp://www.amazon.com/Escort-Passport-iQ-Widescreen-Navigator/dp/B0049H8VKQ Most all the cops here use laser. Does the laser detector warn you early enough to slow down? James Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #78 September 22, 2011 Dude I am pretty sure 99.9% of the people who visited this thread assumed people here would be talking about options they would like to have on their street legal production cars. The OP was specifically asking what options they might want to consider on a new production car. 99.9% of the people visiting this thread likely feel they do not need a roll cage (some might not even know the difference between a roll cage and a roll bar). If you want one, fine. Buy a car, strip the interior down to the metal and weld in your roll cage, paint it and then add back the interior components. But what you are saying you want in your car(s) is outside the scope the OP was asking in this thread. Roll cages exist for race cars and/or purpose built track cars. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #79 September 22, 2011 Quote Does the laser detector warn you early enough to slow down? Laser detectors are great at telling you that "You are about to get a ticket". Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BrokenR1 0 #80 September 22, 2011 Quote Dude I am pretty sure 99.9% of the people who visited this thread assumed people here would be talking about options they would like to have on their street legal production cars. The OP was specifically asking what options they might want to consider on a new production car. 99.9% of the people visiting this thread likely feel they do not need a roll cage (some might not even know the difference between a roll cage and a roll bar). If you want one, fine. Buy a car, strip the interior down to the metal and weld in your roll cage, paint it and then add back the interior components. But what you are saying you want in your car(s) is outside the scope the OP was asking in this thread. Roll cages exists for race cars and/or purpose built track cars. Cool Story Bro. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Rap is to music what etch-a-sketch is to art. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldwomanc6 52 #81 September 22, 2011 I love my portable GPS... but it has a little something extra built into ithttp://www.amazon.com/Escort-Passport-iQ-Widescreen-Navigator/dp/B0049H8VKQ Most all the cops here use laser. Does the laser detector warn you early enough to slow down? James You're going to get mixed responses on this question. Many will tell you that once you get hit with laser, it's over. Technically, that may be, But in the real world, it's not so simple. Cops are aiming at your front plate/flat front end. How well can they aim? Are they aiming at you? The car next/in front of you? How sensitive is the detector to scatter? The manufacturers will tell you that the cops can get a read at almost any range, when in fact, the closer your car is the better chance that they can get a usable reading. eta: where you place the detector can make a difference, too. In the real world, I have had warnings in time to slow down, and I have been hit when there was no chance of mistake. Fortunately, those times I was being a good girl. The only way to be reasonably sure of outsmarting laser is with a jammer, and not all those are created equal either. When purchasing either detector/jammer, do your research. You WILL get what you pay for. The more expensive ones will be cheaper in the long run rather than relying on a cheap one which will not be as quick to warn you.lisa WSCR 594 FB 1023 CBDB 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squirrel 0 #82 September 22, 2011 QuotePlease show me an example of a manufacture of production street legal road cars that offers roll cages. I am not aware of a single manufacture who offers a roll cage as an extra. http://factoryfive.com/ and my 1967 Shelby GT 500 came with one stock, but that was years ago. we are looking to buy a MK4 roadster someday. not sure if this car qualifies as production, but they do sell quite a few. ________________________________ Where is Darwin when you need him? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #83 September 22, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Quote I'd skip the built in navigation system - I like having a portable GPS so you can take it on trips. Rental cars are where I need my GPS, hopefully preloaded with all the motels, DZ's, etc. I, too, keep cars for years. I'd hate to have a 11-12 year old "state of the art" navigation system stuck in the middle of my dash. After over a decade of advances, a Ouija board or deck of Tarot cards would probably be better. I love my portable GPS... but it has a little something extra built into ithttp://www.amazon.com/Escort-Passport-iQ-Widescreen-Navigator/dp/B0049H8VKQ Most all the cops here use laser. Does the laser detector warn you early enough to slow down? James Yes,,,, Its saved me a few times... usually I will admit to finding myself some good BEAR BAIT to follow... and there is enough bleed over past them that the LASAR warning sounds off nice and loudMost of the Time.... I am not going all that fast.. I usually keep it within 7 to 10 MPH of the speed limit and the nice readout on the Passport is VERY accurate for thatNow if the general flow of traffic is going significantly faster... I will move it over and let them go for it... an maybe blend in with some of the slower speeders in the group. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squirrel 0 #84 September 22, 2011 QuoteQuotePlease show me an example of a manufacture of production street legal road cars that offers roll cages. I am not aware of a single manufacture who offers a roll cage as an extra. http://factoryfive.com/ and my 1967 Shelby GT 500 came with one stock, but that was years ago. we are looking to buy a MK4 roadster someday. not sure if this car qualifies as production, but they do sell quite a few. meant to say that the roll bar is an "option." and you can get plugs that fill the holes in the body if you don't install the bar. (cage) ________________________________ Where is Darwin when you need him? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PiLFy 3 #85 September 22, 2011 QuoteFor those of you who would buy a new car, what are the "extras" that you would consider as something you would "need". - sunroof - leather interior - be Bluetooth enabled - built in navigation system - etc.. - sunroof Don't want one. - leather interiorDon't want one. - be Bluetooth enabledDon't need it. - built in navigation systemDon't need it. Unless you buy a stripped down base(ment) model. Cars today already come standard w/everything you need. Plus, assorted creature comforts as an added bonus. Manufacturers aren't making cars as good as they should the past few years. Quality has suffered along w/the economy. The more you spend on decking out your new ride? The more irritating the quality deficiencies will be to you. I vote that you spend the extra options' money on gear & jumps. You'll get far more enjoyment out of it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #86 September 22, 2011 Quote http://factoryfive.com/ and my 1967 Shelby GT 500 came with one stock, but that was years ago. we are looking to buy a MK4 roadster someday. not sure if this car qualifies as production, but they do sell quite a few. Porsche sells the 997 GT3RS equipped with a roll bar. Well sells the 997 GT3RS with a roll bar everywhere but in North America. But there is a difference between a roll bar and a roll cage. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squirrel 0 #87 September 23, 2011 Quote Quote http://factoryfive.com/ and my 1967 Shelby GT 500 came with one stock, but that was years ago. we are looking to buy a MK4 roadster someday. not sure if this car qualifies as production, but they do sell quite a few. Porsche sells the 997 GT3RS equipped with a roll bar. Well sells the 997 GT3RS with a roll bar everywhere but in North America. But there is a difference between a roll bar and a roll cage. i know. i figured by the tenacity of this discussion, that someone would point that out. ________________________________ Where is Darwin when you need him? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amstalder 0 #88 September 28, 2011 Quote Quote Yeah, I don't want to leave Korea... Our hoppdie had an electrical problem that was affecting the power windows and A/C. Cost us a whopping $100 for the guy to chase wires for three hours and fix the problem. Wow, compared to the $300 we spent for 1.5 hours of electrical work on our minivan? We should've flown your mechanic over. That was after $500+ replacing misdiagnosed parts that were just fine. Quote And I'm with the OP, I want leather seats (and I'm from the south). I hate the way cloth seats smell after a few months to a year of owning the car. The trick is to go for the tan leather, not black, and to keep a towel handy on sunny/hot days. Our car seats are okay. But some of those skanky fabric chairs in the control room? Yeeeech! I had to swap mine out last night 'cause of the smell in it. Nothing like fear sweat to stink up the room. Found out today that he's not even the cheapest guy in the area. Also found out that these guy know nothing of newer or American made cars, so that will keep us from buying a forever car while we're here. And, yummy , you should bring fabreeze to work with you! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites