JackC1 0 #26 November 10, 2010 QuoteIt was caused by flipping the bag when it was passed over the rig after the lines were stowed. At least I'm pretty sure. Dave I have a hard time seeing how that could happen, at least the way I pack anyway. If the lines are right before the canopy goes into the bag, you would have to flip the bag and thread the bridle and pilot chute through the lines in order to get a full inversion step through. It would take some pretty funky packing methods to do that by accident. But then idiots are pretty frickin ingenious sometimes so who knows. By far the easiest way for this to happen is if the step through was put there on landing and the problem wasn't spotted while packing. I've done that myself. Lots of people grab the line groups at the slinks and walk up to the canopy but not many bother to look over their shoulder and clear the lines again all the way back to the 3 rings. If a twist was in the risers at that point, you might well pack yourself an inversion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pilotdave 0 #27 November 10, 2010 I "let" a new jumper practice packing with my rig. Ha, anything for a free pack job. Well I walked over right after she had brought the dbag over the rig and it was just kind of sitting there in a random orientation. I asked her how she knew which way to turn the bag to place it in the container. She didn't know. So I brought the bag back over the rig, thinking it was straightened out, and showed her how I place it. Somehow it got flipped through during that process. At least that's my best guess. I'm sure there was no step through when I put the rig down. Dave Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rockola 0 #28 November 15, 2010 QuoteQuoteIt was caused by flipping the bag when it was passed over the rig after the lines were stowed. I have a hard time seeing how that could happen, at least the way I pack anyway. If the lines are right before the canopy goes into the bag, you would have to flip the bag and thread the bridle and pilot chute through the lines in order to get a full inversion step through. It would take some pretty funky packing methods to do that by accident. But then idiots are pretty frickin ingenious sometimes so who knows. I was that ingenious idiot on jump #49. As a result, I am now extra careful about not getting distracted between doing the final stow and placing the D-bag in the tray. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 16 #29 November 15, 2010 Quote Somehow it got flipped through during that process. At least that's my best guess. I'm sure there was no step through when I put the rig down. Damn it. When I pack and teach packing, I leave the pilot chute and bridle laying on the carpet as far above the rig as possible while I tuck in the risers and bag, then close. This acts as a guard against unknowingly stuffing the bag through some lines or risers, or excessively flipping it around. Years ago, on a brand of rig other that Infinity, someone popped my straight pin on my pull out container as I climbed out front float. I felt my container empty and looked over to see my pilot chute laying on the leg of the middle float. I figured it was time to go. I shoved off the Twin Otter immediately and was under canopy about a second later. All this somehow put a complete flip thru in the lines (as well as the pilot chute tangled in the right steering lines.) Since I was opened so high, I managed to clear the pilot chute out of the lines and the flip worked its way down to the risers. The landing was uneventful. It sure beat using my reserve. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites