Nataly 38 #1 August 15, 2011 Just reading an article on the BBC about the dilemma some parents are facing about turning their chidren into the police following the rioting/looting going on last week all over the UK... Some parents answered yes, they would (or did) denounce their offspring so they would learn the consequences of their actions... Others said no, mindful of the negative impact of a police record on their future careers... Some said it depended on the severity of the crime but would prefer to deal with it privately/anonymously... I'm in a bad position to judge, as I haven't reproduced (!) but I certainly hope that any children of mine would have solid values and not get swept up in the moment and/or involved in criminal activity in the first place... So... Would you turn in your child???"There is no problem so bad you can't make it worse." - Chris Hadfield « Sors le martinet et flagelle toi indigne contrôleuse de gestion. » - my boss Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
obelixtim 150 #2 August 15, 2011 Tough one. I probably wouldn't turn him in, but I certainly think I'd make sure he saw the error of his ways in a way he wouldn't forget in a hurry. He might prefer the police route!!. Part of that would be making sure the little scrote did some voluntary community work to put something back into the society he's shat on. Most children who behave that way, sadly, are a reflection of their parents and lack of skills thereof.My computer beat me at chess, It was no match for me at kickboxing.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildcard451 0 #3 August 15, 2011 QuoteHe might prefer the police route!!. I always said this about my father if I was ever caught doing wrong. I would have been safer in jail. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cocheese 0 #4 August 15, 2011 Sell them for crack? Maybe. Turn them in for it? nah Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CSpenceFLY 1 #5 August 15, 2011 I'd give them a choice. Whatever I did to them would be 10 times worse then what the PoPo would do to them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #6 August 15, 2011 where's the option for Arrest the parent for doing a shite job controlling their offspring You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #7 August 15, 2011 Was there a reward being offered? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eeneR 3 #8 August 15, 2011 Quote where's the option for Arrest the parent for doing a shite job controlling their offspring Winner!!! As a few others have said, the wrath of my parents was far worse than anything a cop could do. Which is what I thought the job of parents was, keep kids in line? She is not a "Dumb Blonde" - She is a "Light-Haired Detour Off The Information Superhighway." eeneR TF#72, FB#4130, Incauto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brucet7 0 #9 August 15, 2011 This weekend some kids tag our building. On Sunday morning a young man came in (rather nervous) and apologized for painting the wall. Was there anything he could do to make up for it? His mother was there watching. So today the same said young man was washing and painting the wall he sprayed. And wanted to do more so pulled some weeds as well. His mother didn't turn him in to the police, but a very good lesson was learned today.POPS #10623; SOS #1672 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kd5xb 1 #10 August 15, 2011 Already DID turn one of them in. Don't ask, I'm not divulging any more info.I'm a jumper. Even though I don't always have money for jumps, and may not ever own a rig again, I'll always be a jumper. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #11 August 15, 2011 Quote Quote where's the option for Arrest the parent for doing a shite job controlling their offspring Winner!!! As a few others have said, the wrath of my parents was far worse than anything a cop could do. Which is what I thought the job of parents was, keep kids in line? That's one of the responsibilities that parents are supposed to keep up with. Back in the 50's, 60's, God help you if you did something you weren't supposed to, you'd get an ass-whipping. Fast forward to the 90's and on, you see kids running amok and their parents protecting them from police or school authorities with the "not my kids mentality". I'm hard on my 2 girls, and so far, they are real good kids. "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
monkycndo 0 #12 August 16, 2011 Quote Quote He might prefer the police route!!. I always said this about my father if I was ever caught doing wrong. I would have been safer in jail. Sounds like our dads had the same schooling on raising kids. Way back when, my elementary school sent out permission slips so that we could be paddled as corporal punishment. Dad signed the slip with a large signature and added a note that he would provide the whip. The point was not lost on me. 50 donations so far. Give it a try. You know you want to spank it Jump an Infinity Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #13 August 16, 2011 Here is how a mother handled in in my city: QuoteAfter learning that her son had killed 13-year-old Broomfield girl Kelsey Shannon last year, Alex Pacheco's mother advised him not to tell others, according to an arrest warrant unsealed Tuesday. Ref: http://www.broomfieldenterprise.com/ongoing-coverage/broomfield-kelsey-shannon-missing-investigation/ci_12797218"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shell666 0 #14 August 16, 2011 Quote Quote Quote where's the option for Arrest the parent for doing a shite job controlling their offspring Winner!!! As a few others have said, the wrath of my parents was far worse than anything a cop could do. Which is what I thought the job of parents was, keep kids in line? That's one of the responsibilities that parents are supposed to keep up with. Back in the 50's, 60's, God help you if you did something you weren't supposed to, you'd get an ass-whipping. Fast forward to the 90's and on, you see kids running amok and their parents protecting them from police or school authorities with the "not my kids mentality". I'm hard on my 2 girls, and so far, they are real good kids. Back in the 70's when I was a kid, it wasn't just MY parents I had to worry about disciplining me ... there were my FRIEND'S parents too. Gone are the days of the "it takes a village to raise a child" ... 'Shell Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nutz 0 #15 August 16, 2011 Quote Already DID turn one of them in. Don't ask, I'm not divulging any more info. Ditto, wouldn't do it again - at least for a petty crime. Murder on the other hand.... "Don't! Get! Eliminated!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #16 August 16, 2011 Yes i would turn them in but no I wouldn't disown them.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #17 August 16, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Quote where's the option for Arrest the parent for doing a shite job controlling their offspring Winner!!! As a few others have said, the wrath of my parents was far worse than anything a cop could do. Which is what I thought the job of parents was, keep kids in line? That's one of the responsibilities that parents are supposed to keep up with. Back in the 50's, 60's, God help you if you did something you weren't supposed to, you'd get an ass-whipping. Fast forward to the 90's and on, you see kids running amok and their parents protecting them from police or school authorities with the "not my kids mentality". I'm hard on my 2 girls, and so far, they are real good kids. Back in the 70's when I was a kid, it wasn't just MY parents I had to worry about disciplining me ... there were my FRIEND'S parents too. Gone are the days of the "it takes a village to raise a child" ... Thats a great point.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BrokenR1 0 #18 August 16, 2011 Depends. More than likely not as I'd do a better job of getting the point through to them. I'd also like to retain some of their trust. However if I am at a point where I cannot get through to them I'd probably throw that outside influence in as well by turning them in. All depends on the specifics though as there is no one solution to fit all situations. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Rap is to music what etch-a-sketch is to art. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,312 #19 August 16, 2011 I wonder if the results would be the same if the question had been worded as: Would you turn in your child knowing that any record would prevent them from pursuing academic, military or employment opportunities and you were found financially liable for restitution? Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #20 August 16, 2011 QuoteI wonder if the results would be the same if the question had been worded as: Would you turn in your child knowing that any record would prevent them from pursuing academic, military or employment opportunities and you were found financially liable for restitution? Ding. A voice of mature, non-posturing clarity. These "raising kids" threads appear here with semi-regularity. My unscientific observation of such threads over the years is that 87.2%* of posters who take the toughest, most hard-assed (and most simplistic) views on (a) raising kids and (b) being a parent either don't have kids of their own or have not yet raised kids through their teens and into adulthood. (*margin of error, +/- 3.2%) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #21 August 16, 2011 Quote Gone are the days of the "it takes a village to raise a child" ... Well, the 'village' you are talking about is where the adults all had a sense of right and wrong and they all knew each other. And they all took responsibility. The 'village' that squirrelface wrote about wasn't anything like that. It's about no responsibility. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nataly 38 #22 August 16, 2011 QuoteI wonder if the results would be the same if the question had been worded as: Would you turn in your child knowing that any record would prevent them from pursuing academic, military or employment opportunities and you were found financially liable for restitution? That is a very poorly worded question as it deliberately pushes people in one direction... I think the examples I gave (including one about the effect of a police record on future employment opportunities) was sufficient to highlight the dilema."There is no problem so bad you can't make it worse." - Chris Hadfield « Sors le martinet et flagelle toi indigne contrôleuse de gestion. » - my boss Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,312 #23 August 16, 2011 QuoteQuoteI wonder if the results would be the same if the question had been worded as: Would you turn in your child knowing that any record would prevent them from pursuing academic, military or employment opportunities and you were found financially liable for restitution? That is a very poorly worded question as it deliberately pushes people in one direction... I think the examples I gave (including one about the effect of a police record on future employment opportunities) was sufficient to highlight the dilema. It must be a poorly worded question if one of the answers can't be "boobies."Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #24 August 16, 2011 QuoteI wonder if the results would be the same if the question had been worded as: Would you turn in your child knowing that any record would prevent them from pursuing academic, military or employment opportunities and you were found financially liable for restitution? It would entirely depend on the crime committed. Your diatribe does not include anything about any sort of restitution or possibility of recidivismYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,312 #25 August 17, 2011 QuoteQuoteI wonder if the results would be the same if the question had been worded as: Would you turn in your child knowing that any record would prevent them from pursuing academic, military or employment opportunities and you were found financially liable for restitution? It would entirely depend on the crime committed. Your diatribe does not include anything about any sort of restitution or possibility of recidivism Dis you miss the part about "financially" libel? As to recidivism... that might depend on how much it costs the parents and the beatings that ensue.Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites