skymiles 3 #1 February 22, 2005 Or, no difference. Phil Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #2 February 22, 2005 IMO the 150 SMART (but not by much)---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,070 #3 February 22, 2005 >What packs smaller, a PD 143R or a Smart 150R? When reading replies to this question, keep in mind that the PD143R is not necessarily 7 square feet smaller than the Smart 150. For example, Sandy Reid's sizing document lists the PD143 as 151 square feet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #4 February 22, 2005 QuoteSandy Reid's sizing document lists the PD143 as 151 square feet. Is that the same chart that the PIA has on their website?--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,070 #5 February 23, 2005 >Is that the same chart that the PIA has on their website? Sandy created the PIA document so I suspect it is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
klafollette 0 #6 February 23, 2005 I'm interested in this sizing document. Looked on www.pia.com, but not finding it. Can someone point the way or post it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IanHarrop 42 #7 February 23, 2005 I think this is it. http://www.pia.com/piapubs/TSDocuments/ts104-13%20Canopy%20volume%20study_1995.pdf Updated to say... the date on this one looks older than the one BillVon references below."Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,070 #8 February 23, 2005 http://www.dropzone.com/gear/archive/archive_p.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
larsrulz 0 #9 February 23, 2005 I have a Smart 150 with a Samurai 150 in my Mirage G3 M2. My rigger (who previously owned the Samurai) has a PD 143R which was packed with the Samurai 150 in his Mirage G3 M2. There was a noticeable reduction in pack volume in the Smart 150. This was very important because the Samurai and Smart are both considerably tight on the M2. Do make note on the differences in sizes, which I am not completely aware of. I got a strong urge to fly, but I got no where to fly to. -PF Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
larsrulz 0 #10 February 23, 2005 Quotehttp://www.dropzone.com/gear/archive/archive_p.html Am I looking at the wrong document, because the PIA one does not have any pack volume for the smart. In addition, the document lists four different pack volumes for the PD 143R, which have a variance of 6% between them, which is like comparing a 150 to a 140 almost! Seems like the document can be easily misused. Edited for bad wording of the last sentence. I got a strong urge to fly, but I got no where to fly to. -PF Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #11 February 23, 2005 You can try this one. But trying to compare canopy volumes is like herding cats. It is really tough and can change from day to day. SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites