Is this a good rig/price for a beginner?

[nicodecker 0]

Hey i'm new to skydiving and looking to pickup a rig. I've got a friend selling this kit for $2,000. Is this a good price/rig for a beginner? I'm 6'2" and about 200lbs. I trust the guy, just a bit paranoid and second opinions wouldn't hurt!! Thanks!

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The rig is a Javelin. I think it's a J-5 or CJ-5 model. It's definitely
suited to someone my/your size. DOM 1995. Hackey-sac handle, non
collapsible pilot chute, BOC deployment. Cypress is installed and had
its 8 year service in Sept/Oct time frame of '03. Valid life of a AAD is
12 years so it has about 2 1/2 years left (You will be in a new rig by
then). The Main is a Saber 190 with a collapsible slider. It opens slow
which makes the openings super soft. The reserve is a PD 193 if I
remember right. Colors are red, black, and white.
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[AggieDave 6]

I highly suggest you talk to your instructors or former instructors about what would be a good choice for you for canopy choice and sizes. If this rig is it, then have it checked out fully by a rigger before buying.

--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline."

[SkiD_PL8 0]

If you want serious responses to your questions it helps to fill in your profile info. Also do exactly as dave mentioned, take it to a reputable rigger for inspection he may even be willing to give you his opinion on the price, The other main concern would be how many jumps the main has on it and when if ever it has been relined.

Greenie in training.

[darkwing 5]

I need more information before I could give you a meaningful answer. The number of jumps on each component (rig, main, reserve) is vital, as is where the jumps were made (the desert is a lot different environment on a rig than is a green, grassy DZ). So, to get to the real answer, you must take it to one or two riggers for their opinions.

-- Jeff
My Skydiving History

[nicodecker 0]

Ok update! Also the jumps were made in south georgia, i've jumped at that DZ and its pretty green and grassy except for the runway :-P
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I have put around 80-85 jumps on
the main myself and if I remember right it had about 200 or so when I
got it. The reserve has 0 rides as far as I know.
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[Gravitymaster 0]

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Ok update! Also the jumps were made in south georgia, i've jumped at that DZ and its pretty green and grassy except for the runway :-P
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I have put around 80-85 jumps on
the main myself and if I remember right it had about 200 or so when I
got it. The reserve has 0 rides as far as I know.
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I don't understand. You profile says you only have 3 jumps. Now you are saying you have put 80-85 jumps on the main??

If you have already have it, why are you now asking for advice? Please explain.

[mnealtx 0]

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Ok update! Also the jumps were made in south georgia, i've jumped at that DZ and its pretty green and grassy except for the runway :-P
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I have put around 80-85 jumps on
the main myself and if I remember right it had about 200 or so when I
got it. The reserve has 0 rides as far as I know.
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I don't understand. You profile says you only have 3 jumps. Now you are saying you have put 80-85 jumps on the main??

If you have already have it, why are you now asking for advice? Please explain.

I'd guess that's info from the current owner of the rig, based on the "***" separators....

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706

[nicodecker 0]

yes, sorry i wasn't clear about that! I've done 3 tandems at that runway and the owner has put the 80-85 jumps on the rig.

[Freeflysmiley 2]

Only 85 jumps on a ten year old rig? I smell a rat

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[bmcd308 0]

It almost does not matter whether the price is good or whether we think the rig is good for you.

I know you are excited, but there will be used gear available when you have more jumps and a better idea of what is important to you with regard to your equipment.

Hang tight a while. Talk to people about their gear. Read the articles on this website, the bulk of which were written by manufacturers or dealers. Get to know your local rigger. Rent some different canopies.

You have the rest of your life to buy gear.

Brent

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[GravityGirl 0]

My two cents:

#1. That is a fair/good price for that rig.

#2. Based on the information you have provided, I would recommend you start on t 210 sq. ft. main at minimum.

My best advise for new jumpers is to determine what YOUR needs are BEFORE you shop gear. Inappropriate gear is never a good deal.

So sort out what you need first. Arm yourself with that knowledge, then go out there and get you some gear!

PM me with any questions you might have.

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Peace and Blue Skies!
Bonnie ==>Gravity Gear!

[DrewEckhardt 0]

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Hey i'm new to skydiving and looking to pickup a rig. I've got a friend selling this kit for $2,000. Is this a good price/rig for a beginner? I'm 6'2" and about 200lbs.

The Main is a Saber 190 with a collapsible slider. It opens slow
which makes the openings super soft. The reserve is a PD 193 if I
remember right. Colors are red, black, and white.

The standard conservative view is that the main and reserve are a size or two too small. People with a lot of experience like Brian Germain would say that you need a square foot per pound of exit weight.

A rig that size will be over 20 pounds. 200 + 20 = 220 pounds out the door.

You end up with a 210 or 230, will probably get bored with the canopy even if you can't use its full potential, and will probably get something smaller within a year. This is fine - what's appropriate in 100 jumps won't be now. Parachutes depreciate just $1/jump so down sizing in the future won't be expensive. And you'll be able to fit smaller canopies in your rig.

As a point of reference when I started my exit weight was under 190 pounds and instructors were evenly split between 190 and 210 square feet. Sabres are no slower than they were 9 years ago.

[rhys 0]

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The Main is a Saber 190 with a collapsible slider. It opens slow
which makes the openings super soft.


are you for real?

sabre and soft dont go in the same sentance do they. unless you're talking about tweaking packjobs maybe.

i'm not saying it is an unsuitable canopy coz it's perfect . but don't go promising soft openings on a sabre for someone who is 200lb.

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

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[nicodecker 0]

You guys are probably right, i'm going to finish my AFF and then worry about a rig afterwards.

Thanks guys! i hope to get finished a little after march when it starts to warm up!