godfrog 2 #1 March 24, 2011 Air traffic controler in the tower at Reagan international fell asleep while on night shift and 2 airliners land without clearance! I'm glad I fly at uncontroled airstrips!Experience is a difficult teacher, she gives you the test first and the lesson afterward Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmytavino 16 #2 March 24, 2011 Fact is.... two airliners landed without .... Incident......!!! I know that there IS a certain procedure.. but often, in general , "clearance " is waaay overrated what's the big Hub Bub?? Bub..... seems like the media loves to get all carried away with... "What Ifs"...... I am Just glad it WASN'T Dulles,,, cause my brother works the tower, there.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #3 March 24, 2011 Could have been worsister... I'd like to die like my granddad, peacefully in my sleep... not screaming and crying... like the passengers on his plane. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beerlight 0 #4 March 24, 2011 Quote Air traffic controler in the tower at Reagan international fell asleep while on night shift and 2 airliners land without clearance! I'm glad I fly at uncontroled airstrips! Maybe asleep. And waiting on the massive kneejerk out of the FAA after the media runs with this story all day. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
david3 0 #5 March 24, 2011 Quote Quote Air traffic controler in the tower at Reagan international fell asleep while on night shift and 2 airliners land without clearance! I'm glad I fly at uncontroled airstrips! Maybe asleep. And waiting on the massive kneejerk out of the FAA after the media runs with this story all day. No need to wait all day. Quote Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood is directing that two air traffic controllers be on duty at Reagan National Airport late at night following an incident in which two airliners landed without tower clearance because they couldn't reach the lone controller. http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D9M59JC00.htm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squirrel 0 #6 March 24, 2011 Quote Air traffic controler in the tower at Reagan international fell asleep while on night shift and 2 airliners land without clearance! I'm glad I fly at uncontroled airstrips! yeah...untilllllll....the day i was holding for runway 21 because an incoming pilot was calling "downwind for runway 21" ... i looked around, did not see him, but i did see someone going for runway 3..."base for runway 21" ... "final for runway 21" at that point the owner of the airport who is warming up in front of me says..."don't you mean runway 21?" "Oh! right! aborting! ...sorry, my book must have been upside down." ________________________________ Where is Darwin when you need him? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MX304 0 #7 March 24, 2011 Then there is that Fed EX jet that crashed on landing in Japan because the crew was asleep. So much for auto-land... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #8 March 24, 2011 My first Q: Why the hell is a controlled field staffed by just one controller with no one to relieve him??? "There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveJack 1 #10 March 24, 2011 About 9 or 10 years ago I was flying a Lear Jet back from Iceland into Goose Bay, Canada in the middle of the night to refuel. When we got handed over to the tower there was initially no response. Fortunately there was good weather and we decided to just do standard uncontrolled airport callouts and land visually. Before we landed we heard a couple of unintelligible transmissions on the radio. After we landed and parked I went in and called the tower. I let it ring for a few minutes and finally the controller picked it up. He was drunk on his ass. Totally out of it. I made a few phone calls to the authorities and recommended police and ambulance go to check on him. In the back of my mind I knew that it was possible that he might have a medical condition that was affecting him. We ended up taking off visually and picking up our IFR clearance in the air from Center. I found out later that he really was drunk. And the whole thing was hushed up. I never heard a thing aboot it in the Canadian news. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
godfrog 2 #11 March 24, 2011 I got handed off to a wrong freq in Salt lake in the middle of the day one time, the controler didn't know who I was or where I was.......finally got ot straight.Experience is a difficult teacher, she gives you the test first and the lesson afterward Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,108 #12 March 24, 2011 QuoteFact is.... two airliners landed without .... Incident......!!! Whaaaat? Every junior reporter knows that without controllers to guide them every step of the way pilots don't have a clue where they are or where they're going, and most certainly can't land.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverbry 0 #13 March 24, 2011 Kinda makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside knowing that there is only one controller at the helm and he's asleep....no?Bry -------------------------------------------------- Growing old is mandatory.Growing up is optional!! D.S.#13(Dudeist Skdiver) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lippy 918 #14 March 24, 2011 I don't know how much time you've spend in eastern Canada but a drunk Newfie's not exactly news-worthy material up there I got nuthin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
david3 0 #15 April 13, 2011 Saw this on tonight's news. http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/04/13/another-air-traffic-controller-allegedly-caught-asleep-at-the-switch/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwnGoK-4Zcw&feature=player_embedded Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuFantasma 0 #16 April 16, 2011 November, Alpha, Papa, Zulu, Zulu, Zulu ; Clear to ......Y yo, pa' vivir con miedo, prefiero morir sonriendo, con el recuerdo vivo". - Ruben Blades, "Adan Garcia" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 16 #17 April 17, 2011 Quote I got handed off to a wrong freq in Salt lake in the middle of the day one time, the controler didn't know who I was or where I was.......finally got ot straight. That happens all the time. Confusing as hell, some pilot checking in that thinks you should know who he is and you got no f-ing clue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
godfrog 2 #18 April 17, 2011 I did all of the proper procedures and had all of the frequencys stacked up and was assigned a squawk code and each time I was assigned a new freq I had it and all of a sudden I was handed a freq I didn't have I switched to it and checked in and the control asked who are you I don't have you on my scope and when we got it figured out I was handed back to where I was supposed to be which was the next freq. I had on my radio, I was handed off wrong!Experience is a difficult teacher, she gives you the test first and the lesson afterward Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dropdeded 0 #19 April 17, 2011 Gonna be leaving Indianapolis International here shortly, someone wanna go wake 'em up at Dallas Fort Worth for me ------------------------------------------ The Dude Abides. - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
