Speakers in helmet.

[bodypilot1 0]

Jesse

Truely your last statement of "I don't have enough experience to know if music would be much of a distraction" is correct.



Keepin' it safe!
Ed

www.WestCoastWingsuits.com
www.PrecisionSkydiving.com

[derleth 0]

the only thing that i believe might be acceptable would be listening to music in one ear on the way to altitude, so that you can still hear anything else that happens. the fellow who started the post said that he has a pilots' license ... then he knows how important sound is when it comes to flying safely. in my private pilot course, i've been taught to pay very close attention to the various noises outside and inside the plane. they tell you alot.

music in freefall or under canopy seems very unsafe, and if you were only risking your own ass, i could not care less. but, you're endangering others if you do it.

for instance, can you imagine the disorientation of a slammer opening? have you had one, yet? it's very difficult to quickly regain your bearings and having music blaring in your ears could make it much worse.

i had a slammer opening that made me think my neck was broken, along with some other body parts, for several seconds. i landed way out and had blood all over from biting my tongue ... the guy i jumped with could not believe that i did NOT hear him yelling at me just after opening -- i was headed right for him and NEVER saw him and NEVER heard him yelling because of the extreme disorientation from the hard opening. and this all happened on a sabre2 190 loaded 1:1.

just something else to consider, friend.
peace

... On landing a wise man once said: "A long walk always beats a short ambulance ride."

[bodypilot1 0]

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the only thing that i believe might be acceptable would be listening to music in one ear on the way to altitude, so that you can still hear anything else that happens. the fellow who started the post said that he has a pilots' license ... then he knows how important sound is when it comes to flying safely. in my private pilot course, i've been taught to pay very close attention to the various noises outside and inside the plane. they tell you alot.

music in freefall or under canopy seems very unsafe, and if you were only risking your own ass, i could not care less. but, you're endangering others if you do it.

for instance, can you imagine the disorientation of a slammer opening? have you had one, yet? it's very difficult to quickly regain your bearings and having music blaring in your ears could make it much worse.

i had a slammer opening that made me think my neck was broken, along with some other body parts, for several seconds. i landed way out and had blood all over from biting my tongue ... the guy i jumped with could not believe that i did NOT hear him yelling at me just after opening -- i was headed right for him and NEVER saw him and NEVER heard him yelling because of the extreme disorientation from the hard opening. and this all happened on a sabre2 190 loaded 1:1.

just something else to consider, friend.
peace

To whom was your post intended for?




Keepin' it safe!
Ed

www.WestCoastWingsuits.com
www.PrecisionSkydiving.com

[tsisson 0]

In observing this thread...

A simple response to the initial question such as

"It's not a good idea to listen to music in the aircraft or while in Freefall or under canopy because..."

would have probably been received a bit better. I'd think a better mentoring approach would encourage a new jumper to be open and willing to ask questions without fear of getting shut down and belittled.

Haven't we all been there? What's the point of ripping a guy to shreds at 28 jumps because he asked a question? Crossing the canyon between 28 jumps and 200 can seem like an infinite distance when you are forced to do it virtually alone.

[droquette 0]

I know someone who wears earplugs in the plane. He takes them out before freefall. For the first 10-15 minutes of the flight he wears them as to decrease the ears exposure tothe turbines noise. During this period he really can't hear much. Isn't this similar to having headphones on the way up. Is there a difference?

HISPA 72 ----- "Muff Brother" 3733

[bodypilot1 0]

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In observing this thread...

A simple response to the initial question such as

"It's not a good idea to listen to music in the aircraft or while in Freefall or under canopy because..."

would have probably been received a bit better. I'd think a better mentoring approach would encourage a new jumper to be open and willing to ask questions without fear of getting shut down and belittled.

Haven't we all been there? What's the point of ripping a guy to shreds at 28 jumps because he asked a question? Crossing the canyon between 28 jumps and 200 can seem like an infinite distance when you are forced to do it virtually alone.

Well Tim, if you have been following this thread you clearly see my first responce was:

"If skydiving doesn't take ALL of your thoughts, during the ride up in the plane, during freefall, and under canopy, until you are safely in the hanger and done packing.
Then you aren't being safe enough for anyone, including yourself."

That in no way is "ripping a guy to shreds at 28 jumps because he asked a question."

It's just a simple fact.



Be safe.
Ed

www.WestCoastWingsuits.com
www.PrecisionSkydiving.com

[tsisson 0]

Ed,

I don't disagree with your posts at all...nor was I really referring to your responses directly. I do feel however, that several responses in the thread were a bit overboard. I just get the feeling sometimes that people sort of get off tearing into someone rather than taking them under a wing. I think it's important for those with experience to support and mentor low time jumpers, whether that be by sharing information constructively or by spending time with them in the air. I've seen people get alienated for the wrong reasons...then they end up jumping by themselves and "trying to figure it out" on their own.

I hold value in all the "secret stuff" shared to me by the old guard...not everything is common sense to new jumpers.

I can remember having 20 jumps and a jumpmaster (Chris Bagwell) approaches me and says "Hey man...you might want to NOT wear those shoes". I ask why not? Turns out I'm wearing a pare of lowcut sport hikers with hook eyes on them...they go nicely with microline...but the thing that I appreciated about his approach was that he didn't announce my apparent stupidity to the entire hangar, rather...helped me see why it was wrong and got me to understand.

[huka551 0]

If you had a helmet with speakers, would you use a dittyr? I personally find the rushing air, like a soothing 'white' noise, it helps me keep focused on what I'm doing and music would only distract me.

Muff Brother 3723