pa2themd 0 #1 March 9, 2005 Hey guys, this just came through on one of our Listserves, what is it? Besides being the obvious "half a canopy" I have never seen anything like it Blue skies Sheri "Most of us can read the writing on the wall; we just assume it's addressed to someone else!" Ivern Ball Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #2 March 9, 2005 Looks like a Pterodactyl... or at least something similar. A triangular canopy from the days when rounds were moving on to squares and a number of people had ideas about what might make the best shape. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hookitt 1 #3 March 9, 2005 That's a Paradactyl. In fact that's a guy named Chris from the Bay Area Skydiving dropzone in Byron CA. FIREFLYR jumped that canopy and landed way off the dropzone this past weekend. Some one is bound to fill in some detail ... *queue sparky* ..., mean while I'll see if I can dig up some info on it.My grammar sometimes resembles that of magnetic refrigerator poetry... Ghetto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #4 March 9, 2005 Actually yeah, what he said Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dragon2 2 #5 March 9, 2005 Here's an interesting (more recent i think) russian canopy ciel bleu, Saskia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
upndownshop 0 #6 March 9, 2005 QuoteThat's a Paradactyl. In fact that's a guy named Chris from the Bay Area Skydiving dropzone in Byron CA. FIREFLYR jumped that canopy and landed way off the dropzone this past weekend. Yup, spotting becomes a little more important when jumping one of those. I've got one jump on one of those on July 4th 2003, it was red,white, and blue, got out over Universal Studios and put in Ted Strong's lake behind his house. I couldn't remember how to pack it, last one I packed was in the 70's so I flat packed like a square and it worked fine. Ted asked me why I did that and I said "hey it was your generation that made them why not?" He said "yes we did and we are the ones that put them in the closet too". I said "good point". Got my one jump and now its in the closet. Fun Jump Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #7 March 9, 2005 hi Hunni, it seems that people above have an answer. I would say : do a research on NASAWING... seems to be very close to that... The biggest kite I ever flew solo was a 250sqft nasawing...scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonto 1 #8 March 9, 2005 Told ya so...It's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #9 March 9, 2005 They are also covered in Poynter's vol-1. There's still one at our DZ. Noone's had the nerve to jump it, though. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sfzombie13 324 #10 March 9, 2005 there was a cool pic of a russian reserve in the classified section. it was red and looked a little different but it was cool. i would love to jump one, it looks like fun. but then i thought an sf-10a was a lot of fun, a round that i could stand up in 12 knot winds. it steered almost as good as a square. if i could get a hold of one of those, i would replace my 24' round national._________________________________________ Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #11 March 9, 2005 Yes, it is a Paradactyl, designed by Jim Handbury in the late 1970s. I jumped one, once in the early 1980s. ... a huge improvement over the similar-shaped Delta II. The paradactyl flew as well as a Cruisair (a second-generation 7-cell, ram-air canopy) and it had the smallest pack volume for 5 years running. The configuration was patented by Francis Rogallo and much of the early development was funded by NASA as a steerable parachute to recover space ships. Skydivers jumped them for a few years, but Rogallos only found long-term acceptance among hang-gliders. Rogallo reserve parachutes are still available from a russian company (Para Avis?). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #12 March 9, 2005 QuoteGot my one jump and now its in the closet. Give ya 50 bucks for it.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DancingFlame 0 #13 March 9, 2005 QuoteRogallo reserve parachutes are still available from a russian company (Para Avis?). No, they aren't. However, PZ-81 (Russian triangular reserve) stil can be found in classifieds. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWPoul 1 #14 March 9, 2005 QuoteNo, they aren't. Actually they are: http://www.eposib.com/r/tovary/parashute/delta/Why drink and drive, if you can smoke and fly? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverek 63 #15 March 9, 2005 QuoteHowever, PZ-81 (Russian triangular reserve) stil can be found in classifieds. I used to jump this quipment, too. The container was called "Talka", main canopy was also called "Talka" and a reserve was called "Delta" (PZ-81). The whole kit was called "TALKA". Got it, right? Main was rectangular, reserve was triangular. There is no freebag, reserve is "freepacked". I have one reserve ride on it... Very light toogle pressure, not too hard landing for non ram-air canopy. The reserve PC was connected to the the thing similar to the slider to slow the deployment process. More info on triangular reserves here: http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=661037#661037 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #16 March 9, 2005 QuoteThat's a Paradactyl. In fact that's a guy named Chris from the Bay Area Skydiving dropzone in Byron CA. FIREFLYR jumped that canopy and landed way off the dropzone this past weekend. Some one is bound to fill in some detail ... *queue sparky* ..., mean while I'll see if I can dig up some info on it. Yes, it is a Paradactyl by Handbury and Gary Douris of Free Flight. The also made a double keel Dactyl that was use by Visions/Coors for several years when they were National/World Champions. SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 16 #17 March 10, 2005 Quote. The paradactyl flew as well as a Cruisair (a second-generation 7-cell, ram-air canopy) Nahhh . . . they were okay, but not that okay. Must admit I jumped the cruisair and not the Dactyl, but I sure watched a lot folks pound in on the Dactyls. Remember that entire team at Perris that jumped them? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #18 March 10, 2005 QuoteQuote. The paradactyl flew as well as a Cruisair (a second-generation 7-cell, ram-air canopy) Nahhh . . . they were okay, but not that okay. Must admit I jumped the cruisair and not the Dactyl, but I sure watched a lot folks pound in on the Dactyls. Remember that entire team at Perris that jumped them? John, that entire team was National and World champion 8 way, Visions/Coors.SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pa2themd 0 #19 March 10, 2005 Wow, thanks guys!!!! Very interesting!! "Most of us can read the writing on the wall; we just assume it's addressed to someone else!" Ivern Ball Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #20 March 10, 2005 QuoteThanks to the generation who made skydiving safer for me by trying out these weird canopies!Quote We weren't trying to make it safe for you, we trying to make it safe for us. SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites pa2themd 0 #21 March 10, 2005 yeah and by being so selfish you helped us! Thanks guys!!!! Have a safe weekend, and blue skies to you all! "Most of us can read the writing on the wall; we just assume it's addressed to someone else!" Ivern Ball Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnMitchell 16 #22 March 10, 2005 Quote John, that entire team was National and World champion 8 way, Visions/Coors. I thought they were pretty good. I remember a lot of PLF's from people jumping them. A rigger friend told me he saw a double Dactyl rig once, with a TSO'd dactyl for the reserve to match the main. It was the tiniest rig he had ever seen to that date. Dunno if I'd jump it. Watch out, I'm going to get us bumped to the old timer's forum. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites gjhdiver 0 #23 March 10, 2005 QuoteHey guys, this just came through on one of our Listserves, what is it? Besides being the obvious "half a canopy" I have never seen anything like it Blue skies Sheri It's a Paradactyl. Not only is it a Paradactyl, it's MY Paradactlyl. I've rigged it up for people to jump this weekend for the old school weekend at Byron. If you want to jump it, it will be a $10 donation to the fund to help a local jumper's medical expenses. I'll pack it for you, and give you the brief. It;s a lot of fun to fly. This one is particularly nice because it's a reserve Paradactyl and has very few jumps on it. The picture is of Chris DeBar jumping it Byron last weekend. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mjosparky 4 #24 March 10, 2005 QuoteQuote John, that entire team was National and World champion 8 way, Visions/Coors. I thought they were pretty good. I remember a lot of PLF's from people jumping them. A rigger friend told me he saw a double Dactyl rig once, with a TSO'd dactyl for the reserve to match the main. It was the tiniest rig he had ever seen to that date. Dunno if I'd jump it. Watch out, I'm going to get us bumped to the old timer's forum. What I meant was there is a single keel and a double keel Paradactyl. Rather than just both sides of the canopy meeting in the middle, there was a small center hump and each side met on the down side of that hump. The rig with 2 dactyls in it was not TSO'd and it belonged to the late Larry Yohn. He even cut the front reserve risers off to make it lighter. Thats hard core. SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnMitchell 16 #25 March 11, 2005 Nope, I remember the double keeled dactyls. Maybe this rigger was talking about Larry's rig. I recall I was told it was TSO'd. How could you jump a non-TSO'd rig in this country if you were a U.S. citizen? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
pa2themd 0 #21 March 10, 2005 yeah and by being so selfish you helped us! Thanks guys!!!! Have a safe weekend, and blue skies to you all! "Most of us can read the writing on the wall; we just assume it's addressed to someone else!" Ivern Ball Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 16 #22 March 10, 2005 Quote John, that entire team was National and World champion 8 way, Visions/Coors. I thought they were pretty good. I remember a lot of PLF's from people jumping them. A rigger friend told me he saw a double Dactyl rig once, with a TSO'd dactyl for the reserve to match the main. It was the tiniest rig he had ever seen to that date. Dunno if I'd jump it. Watch out, I'm going to get us bumped to the old timer's forum. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gjhdiver 0 #23 March 10, 2005 QuoteHey guys, this just came through on one of our Listserves, what is it? Besides being the obvious "half a canopy" I have never seen anything like it Blue skies Sheri It's a Paradactyl. Not only is it a Paradactyl, it's MY Paradactlyl. I've rigged it up for people to jump this weekend for the old school weekend at Byron. If you want to jump it, it will be a $10 donation to the fund to help a local jumper's medical expenses. I'll pack it for you, and give you the brief. It;s a lot of fun to fly. This one is particularly nice because it's a reserve Paradactyl and has very few jumps on it. The picture is of Chris DeBar jumping it Byron last weekend. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #24 March 10, 2005 QuoteQuote John, that entire team was National and World champion 8 way, Visions/Coors. I thought they were pretty good. I remember a lot of PLF's from people jumping them. A rigger friend told me he saw a double Dactyl rig once, with a TSO'd dactyl for the reserve to match the main. It was the tiniest rig he had ever seen to that date. Dunno if I'd jump it. Watch out, I'm going to get us bumped to the old timer's forum. What I meant was there is a single keel and a double keel Paradactyl. Rather than just both sides of the canopy meeting in the middle, there was a small center hump and each side met on the down side of that hump. The rig with 2 dactyls in it was not TSO'd and it belonged to the late Larry Yohn. He even cut the front reserve risers off to make it lighter. Thats hard core. SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 16 #25 March 11, 2005 Nope, I remember the double keeled dactyls. Maybe this rigger was talking about Larry's rig. I recall I was told it was TSO'd. How could you jump a non-TSO'd rig in this country if you were a U.S. citizen? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
