millertime24 8 #1 March 7, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7lg-7xTZBg And here is the rather disturbing discussion that follows... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BW-QzhlvkYwMuff #5048 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #2 March 7, 2011 Damn, was that you doing the spotting? Did the wind change before you got to jump run? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
millertime24 8 #3 March 7, 2011 I didnt even look down at all. And the wind picked up sometime between jumping and landing. Winds were kinda hinkey yesterday.Muff #5048 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #4 March 7, 2011 Any landing you can walk away from. Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stratostar 5 #5 March 7, 2011 Must happen a lot... you landed right by the windsock.you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thrillstalker 0 #6 March 7, 2011 Quote I didnt even look down at all. that is more scary than landing off. few weeks ago i was doing a 2 way belly and first out. first thing we saw when we looked out was a fucking airplane right under us."Never grow a wishbone, where your backbone ought to be." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
millertime24 8 #7 March 7, 2011 QuoteMust happen a lot... you landed right by the windsock. You know, its weird that there was a windsock there. I remember thinking "why is there a windsock here?" then being uber glad it was there. And Shah, I ALWAYS walk away from my landings. If I dont wlk away from it then Im likely being transported from it by medical help.Muff #5048 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bclark 0 #8 March 7, 2011 Here is why it is important to look out of the airplane on the climb to altitude. Judging from your video, winds were honking from the NW. (Familiar with the area.) Your first clue should have been the fact that the airplane was crawling across the ground on jump run. You would have then known to hold the spot and not exit until well upwind. P.S. Trying to sit fly in an old Talon is probably not the best idea. (Not you, the chick in the pink and black rig you were jumping with.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CSpenceFLY 1 #9 March 7, 2011 Quote Quote I didnt even look down at all. that is more scary than landing off. few weeks ago i was doing a 2 way belly and first out. first thing we saw when we looked out was a fucking airplane right under us. That's why you look before you climb out, that is if you are at a DZ where they teach you that. I've been to a few places where everyone was too cool to concern themselves. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #10 March 7, 2011 Quote That's why you look before you climb out, that is if you are at a DZ where they teach you that. I've been to a few places where everyone was too cool to concern themselves. I was on a 4-way belly load once in a "GPS-spotted" plane. The door opened, our man closest to the door, (who had 4000 jumps), started looking out, then the green light came on. The entire load started screaming for us to go, and he kept shaking his head. I looked out over his shoulder, and saw we were still a mile short of the DZ, and downwind. Of course the entire load continued screaming at us until until we reached the DZ and exited."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildcard451 0 #11 March 7, 2011 Miller, did you decide right away that you weren't making it back? I only ask because the few times that I saw your hands made it appear that you were making NO attempt to increase your glide. Just curious. Hell, you're safe. You did well, and I sure as hell am not gonna dz.com hero your jump. /although I am curious where gopro guy in the green helmet went. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #12 March 7, 2011 Kinda noticed you never once looked downwind to check out your plan if you couldn't make it to a good place while heading towards the DZ. Just saying. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhaig 0 #13 March 7, 2011 QuoteQuote That's why you look before you climb out, that is if you are at a DZ where they teach you that. I've been to a few places where everyone was too cool to concern themselves. I was on a 4-way belly load once in a "GPS-spotted" plane. The door opened, our man closest to the door, (who had 4000 jumps), started looking out, then the green light came on. The entire load started screaming for us to go, and he kept shaking his head. I looked out over his shoulder, and saw we were still a mile short of the DZ, and downwind. Of course the entire load continued screaming at us until until we reached the DZ and exited. it's been a while, but I did that for a 4-way group I was on. I was leaning out, the next group was bitching, so I let them go. About 8 seconds after they left the spot was perfect. We opened just downwind of the landing area (5-10mph day). first group had to walk about half a mile through a plowed field and climb a barbed wire fence. They proceeded to bitch at me for letting them out.-- Rob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
millertime24 8 #14 March 7, 2011 QuoteMiller, did you decide right away that you weren't making it back? I only ask because the few times that I saw your hands made it appear that you were making NO attempt to increase your glide. Just curious. Hell, you're safe. You did well, and I sure as hell am not gonna dz.com hero your jump. /although I am curious where gopro guy in the green helmet went. I did try to get a better glide using rears, but at 2K' I pretty much knew I wasnt making it back. As far as looking downwind, no real poin since I KNEW I would at least be able to hit the parking lot of the building I landed near. I'm not too sure where the dude with the gopro landed, but I DO know that where ever it was, it was next to the girl you see in the sit with me (his wife). He pretty much just followed her down to make sure she was ok.Muff #5048 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #15 March 7, 2011 You were flying directly into the wind, so using rears would have made the problem worse, not better."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Niki1 1 #16 March 7, 2011 QuoteI didnt even look down at all. And the wind picked up sometime between jumping and landing. Winds were kinda hinkey yesterday. A good spot is a short walk or a long ride. Always land next to a road. Next to a bar is even better.Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossilbe before they were done. Louis D Brandeis Where are we going and why are we in this basket? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 220 #17 March 7, 2011 It seems like that Orange Cobalt is causing you issues lately.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slappy1 0 #18 March 7, 2011 QuoteYou were flying directly into the wind, so using rears would have made the problem worse, not better. I've heard very conflicting opinions about this, and still not really sure how/when to use risers to make it back. /n00b Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riddler 0 #19 March 8, 2011 QuoteOf course the entire load continued screaming at us until until we reached the DZ and exited. I always thought a glass-bottom jump ship would be a nice idea, kinda like those glass-bottom boats. Of course, looking out the window works if you know what to look for.Trapped on the surface of a sphere. XKCD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #20 March 8, 2011 At least ya had a good 'out'. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites