davjohns 1 #26 March 1, 2011 Quote So no. Don't come give men advice what it is like to date women. Because you have no fucking glue. Yeah! No glue! Wait....huh? I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arvoitus 1 #27 March 1, 2011 Quote Quote So no. Don't come give men advice what it is like to date women. Because you have no fucking glue. Yeah! No glue! Wait....huh? Shit, when I was writing that, there was a small voice in my head saying there is a typo in it but I went ahead and ignored it. Oh well shit happens.Your rights end where my feelings begin. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Southern_Man 0 #28 March 1, 2011 Glue is the key to sticking together in a relationship."What if there were no hypothetical questions?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #29 March 1, 2011 So to all the ladies out there, im challenging you to approach one guy that you're interested in and show some interest. Stop making us do all the damn work for once. Quote Yeah, well don't hold your breath, there are very few women who would actually ever take that challenge. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nataly 38 #30 March 1, 2011 Quote It's true that girls need to start acting like it's 2011 and start making moves themselves. Girls drop subtle hints. Guys don't understand subtle. We want clear, concise signs that you're interested. If you keep dropping subtle hints and we dont respond, it's one of 2 things. We're either not interested or you're too god damn subtle. So to all the ladies out there, im challenging you to approach one guy that you're interested in and show some interest. Stop making us do all the damn work for once. I agree that *both* genders have a responsibility in "putting themselves forward." Just remember that it takes a LOOOOOOONG time to undo thousands (?) of years of social conditioning... But know that it's not true that all women just sit there, wait and look pretty. Many of us actively go on dating sites, and ask guys out, and make the effort/take the risk... Case in point, I've flown back and forth to Morocco since November to be with my man. And guess who made the first move and asked him on a coffee date? Me. So there. We're not all just another vagina. "There is no problem so bad you can't make it worse." - Chris Hadfield « Sors le martinet et flagelle toi indigne contrôleuse de gestion. » - my boss Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymama 37 #31 March 1, 2011 Quote But stop making the guy do all the work. It's 2011 and before you know it it's going to be 2020. Get past this Victorian BS. If you see a guy you like, grow a set of ovaries and walk over and with a clear distinct voice introduce yourself. I don't know how you managed to turn this into the women's fault again. I love flirting and have even gotten in trouble for flirting too much. You must be going to the wrong kind of places to meet girls. Go somewhere where the girls have a lot of confidence, I bet you'll get different results.She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man, because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #32 March 1, 2011 QuoteBut know that it's not true that all women just sit there, wait and look pretty. Many of us actively go on dating sites, and ask guys out, and make the effort/take the risk... http://www.deepjiveinterests.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/bullshit.jpg http://www.brusco.es/wp-content/uploads/bullShit.jpg Yeah you go on dating sights.....and well...since most dating sights are no different than most DZ's where there are 40 guys per 1 girl....the moment you log on and put one word you get what...30odd emails. Dating / looking for a life partner for a girl is an issue of picking the right fish that jumped into the boat when it's the end of the day and the sun is setting..... For a guy? It's like spear fishing minnows. How did I put it to one of the more robust engineering girls. You really want to find Mr. OK? Pick up a motorcycle, start skydiving...heck just show up to any bar after 6pm before 10pm dress nice and don't sit in the dark and turn off your bitch shield. She gave me the usual line about bla bla bla bla.... In a month she was in a relationship with an OK dude! Total investment? A few nights out at the local bar and a new set of clothes. My suggestion and I'm very serious about this, hedge your bets!Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #33 March 1, 2011 QuoteHow old are you? Just curious, do you think we put less emphasis on "finding love" as we age? Now that I am older, finding love is less important. It would be nice if it happened, but I am in no rush to make it happen. As Nataly pointed out it is better to be happy within yourself. If you are not happy with yourself you will never make someone else happy. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightingale 0 #34 March 1, 2011 Largely, because I think today that love is considered disposable. Whether it's a marriage or long term relationship, instead of working things out, people walk away from the best thing that's ever happened to them, and then they wonder why it didn't work out. Looking at my family, there has been only one divorce ever. My parents have been married for almost 45 years. My grandparents were married for 64 years before my grandmother passed away, and my grandfather followed her 26 weeks later, and for most of us, those were just 26 weeks of a year, but for him, those were 26 weeks without her, and the worst weeks he'd ever lived through, and this man was a World War II combat veteran. I think it's all about perspective. Once you marry someone, they're family, and you don't walk out on family, you work it out. When you don't view leaving as an option, you approach things differently. Everyone in my family who has had a long marriage (pretty much all of them) has said there were times they were tempted to take the easy way out and divorce, but because they'd made the commitment and decided they were in it together, they worked it out and came out stronger for it. So, that's my perspective as to why finding it is difficult... we keep finding it, but we keep throwing it away once we have it, and it's not something we find very often. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SarahC07 0 #35 March 1, 2011 Quote I think it's all about perspective. Once you marry someone, they're family, and you don't walk out on family, you work it out. When you don't view leaving as an option, you approach things differently. Everyone in my family who has had a long marriage (pretty much all of them) has said there were times they were tempted to take the easy way out and divorce, but because they'd made the commitment and decided they were in it together, they worked it out and came out stronger for it. So, that's my perspective as to why finding it is difficult... we keep finding it, but we keep throwing it away once we have it, and it's not something we find very often. This is my perspective, as well... thank you for sharing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #36 March 1, 2011 Quote My grandparents were married for 64 years before my grandmother passed away, and my grandfather followed her 26 weeks later, and for most of us, those were just 26 weeks of a year, but for him, those were 26 weeks without her, and the worst weeks he'd ever lived through, and this man was a World War II combat veteran. WOW! Now that...that's true love.Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,444 #37 March 1, 2011 She didn't need the treatment because it was so difficult being a man in general, it was the necessary screening of emotions that hadn't been trained to be screened. There are plusses and minuses to being either a man or a woman. Note there aren't a lot of men (who self-identify as men, that is) who try to live as women to see how easy it is. To the OP, if love is still wonderful and you can't think of anything else, you might still be in the infatuation stage. And Nataly has good advice -- do as much as possible that you enjoy, and do it around nice people. That way your chances of being happy go up regardless. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nataly 38 #38 March 1, 2011 Quote She didn't need the treatment because it was so difficult being a man in general, it was the necessary screening of emotions that hadn't been trained to be screened. There are plusses and minuses to being either a man or a woman. Note there aren't a lot of men (who self-identify as men, that is) who try to live as women to see how easy it is. To the OP, if love is still wonderful and you can't think of anything else, you might still be in the infatuation stage. And Nataly has good advice -- do as much as possible that you enjoy, and do it around nice people. That way your chances of being happy go up regardless. Wendy P. That is SOOOO true... I try and choose my friends carefully... Good friends help you grow - bad ones suck all your energy/happiness away. My friends are important to me - I look after them and they look after me. Sometimes, just being around someone happy makes you feel happy - it's a little contagious "There is no problem so bad you can't make it worse." - Chris Hadfield « Sors le martinet et flagelle toi indigne contrôleuse de gestion. » - my boss Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #39 March 1, 2011 http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/correlation.png Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #40 March 1, 2011 Finding it isn't a problem ... Nurturing it and treating it with respect is the key to longevity. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #41 March 1, 2011 Quote Many of us actively go on dating sites, and ask guys out, and make the effort/take the risk... We need a list of these sites."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #42 March 1, 2011 Quote It's 2011 and before you know it it's going to be 2020. Get past this Victorian BS. If you see a guy you like, grow a set of ovaries and walk over and with a clear distinct voice introduce yourself. That has exactly been my experience with women since the 90's... Does that suprise you? Does this mean that I don't have a set of balls because I rather the women come to me? Maybe you're too eager.@ the OP: It will always be more difficult once you meet the perfect woman and then lose her... It sux...it's like a curse. *edit* ....or a blessing, depending on your prespective.Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
topdocker 0 #43 March 1, 2011 Listen a lot more, talk a lot less. topJump more, post less! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #44 March 1, 2011 that's the idea...yes. Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arvoitus 1 #45 March 1, 2011 Quote I agree that *both* genders have a responsibility in "putting themselves forward." Just remember that it takes a LOOOOOOONG time to undo thousands (?) of years of social conditioning... Social conditioning? If it really were a social construct then It'd be gone in one generation. Not that long ago being gay was considered a mental illness. Nowadays being gay is a non-issue and gays can get married and probably soon will be able to adopt children too. Women not approaching men has shit all to do with social constructs and everything to do with biology.Your rights end where my feelings begin. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #46 March 1, 2011 Quote That has exactly been my experience with women since the 90's... Does that suprise you? Does this mean that I don't have a set of balls because I rather the women come to me? Maybe you're too eager. Are you calling me UGLY! Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
npgraphicdesign 3 #47 March 1, 2011 Quote How old are you? 31...and perfect for you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #48 March 1, 2011 Quote Quote That has exactly been my experience with women since the 90's... Does that suprise you? Does this mean that I don't have a set of balls because I rather the women come to me? Maybe you're too eager. Are you calling me UGLY! No, I'm saying you don't give women the chance to pick you up because you're already sniffing thier ass before you even take off your coat...Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #49 March 1, 2011 Quote No, I'm saying you don't give women the chance to pick you up because you're already sniffing thier ass before you even take off your coat... You know you sniff one bum..... Nah I'm not "on" 24/7 and I'll be honest, I have never been hit on at a bar.....by any girl I found attractive. Who knows. Maybe this summer Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virgin-burner 1 #50 March 1, 2011 Quote Quote No, I'm saying you don't give women the chance to pick you up because you're already sniffing thier ass before you even take off your coat... You know you sniff one bum..... Nah I'm not "on" 24/7 and I'll be honest, I have never been hit on at a bar.....by any girl I found attractive. Who knows. Maybe this summer tell 'em u're a skydiver; always works! “Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
