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How cool is it that a 20 year old kid wins the biggest race in NASCAR? :)



Cool? yes. However, it's more due to the randomness of the universe than anything else. It IS what makes NASCAR, but it was a minor miracle for people just finished that race.
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We just returned from the track... I gotta hand it to the young man. He showed a lot of heart this past week, played with the big guys for 500 miles today, and took home the hardware.

Dunno how to read Quade and the randomness post, but he is a mod, so I'll leave it.

Just to keep this on track- if you weren't there today I'm sorry... THERE WERE SO MANY BOOBIES!!!
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Dunno how to read Quade and the randomness post, but he is a mod, so I'll leave it.



Seriously? You watched that race and didn't see a LOT of much more experience drivers DNF because they got tangled up in accidents not of their own doing? THAT is randomness.

The Daytona 500 was like a pachinko game with cars.
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Dunno how to read Quade and the randomness post, but he is a mod, so I'll leave it.



Seriously? You watched that race and didn't see a LOT of much more experience drivers DNF because they got tangled up in accidents not of their own doing? THAT is randomness.


That is not randomness, that is racing in nascar. ;)

(I am not a nascar fan and even I know this...:P)
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We just returned from the track...


You bastard! You didn't take me!
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Just to keep this on track- if you weren't there today I'm sorry... THERE WERE SO MANY BOOBIES!!!


So...like a good skydiver, you got pics/video, right?
RIGHT????



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How cool is it that a 20 year old kid wins the biggest race in NASCAR? :)



Didn't watch the race (sorry I don't do NASCAR), but yes it is cool that a 20 year old won. Does this set a record in NASCAR? He beat Sebastian Vettel by one year as Vettel is the youngest person to win an F1 race.


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I think he is the first driver less than half my age, and the first born after 1990 to win the Daytona 500. Damn, I feel old. :P



Trevor turned twenty on Saturday. He's been running in the Nationwide series, last year. Yesterday, he was on the track helping other drivers get ahead and pulls-off the big win. I love it!:D Looks like youth and speed out-did age and wisdom. Helluva race!


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i like nascar, but hate the superspeedways. i mean, when someone wins a super bowl or world series, everyone knows who they are. granted, daytona isn't a championship, but shouldn't people have actually heard of the winner? my first thought was 'who the hell is trevor bayne?' he was good enough and lucky enough to put himself in a position to win, but it's a crap shoot. tony stewart was 2nd with 2 laps to go and ended up somewhere back around 12th. i'm glad it's over, now the racing can start.[:/]

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i like nascar, but hate the superspeedways. i mean, when someone wins a super bowl or world series, everyone knows who they are. granted, daytona isn't a championship, but shouldn't people have actually heard of the winner? my first thought was 'who the hell is trevor bayne?' he was good enough and lucky enough to put himself in a position to win, but it's a crap shoot. tony stewart was 2nd with 2 laps to go and ended up somewhere back around 12th. i'm glad it's over, now the racing can start.[:/]



You rarely see a new inexperienced driver win their first race at a small or technical track such as Bristol, Darlington or Martinsville. Those are the ones that takes well-honed skills and nerve to navigate. At the superspeedways, its pedal to the metal all the way, so almost anybody can win if they're in the right place at the right time.

However, I saw something that I hadnt seen before at Daytona... the prevalence of two-car drafts. There were as many as 15 pairs of cars running nose to tail throughout the race, just for the simple reason they could run as much as 10 mph faster, and when there's as many as 6 pairs running in very close proximity, some going 4 to 5 mph faster than others, it starts to get tricky. For one thing, the pusher of each pair can't see much in front of him so if that pair is closing a gap too fast, it puts the leader in an unenviable position of having to let off the gas or swerve ever so slightly and pray the pusher moves with him without spinning him out.

I'd say this year's race had more white knuckle racing at Daytona than I've seen in years.

But I agree, the real season starts this weekend, and you'll find the stars such as Jimmy Johnson and Jeff Gordon up in the top ten of the season standings in a few weeks.
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You rarely see a new inexperienced driver win their first race at a small or technical track such as Bristol, Darlington or Martinsville.



I can't watch NASCAR on TV. It's just too much for me to take. But I do appreciate that it is not easy to drive fast on ovals.

It's been more than a year since I last fired it up, but last year in www.iracing.com I did some virtual races at Martinsville, Bristol and Daytona (iRacing is one of the more realistic driving sims out there) and racing at Daytona was easy compared to Martinsville. But while I would not say racing was easy at Martinsville, it was a heck of a lot easier than Bristol. There is something about a banked short track oval. I can only imagine what it is like to race there in real life.

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However, I saw something that I hadnt seen before at Daytona... the prevalence of two-car drafts.



NASCAR has gone gay ... LOL ... not that there is anything wrong with this. I think they started doing this tandem drafting a year or two ago, but obviously it became very popular at Dayton yesterday as all the hilights I saw on TV showed one car humping the other and no doubt it caused many of the crashes in the race. Of course the cars are faster doing this, so the drivers will take the risks and do it. But I am sure it is a heck of a lot easier to do at Daytona than it would be at Martinsville or Bristol.


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I'd say this year's race had more white knuckle racing at Daytona than I've seen in years.



And consequentially, FAR more multi-car pileups.

NASCAR has always held that "rubbin' is racin'", but that was just silly.
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How cool is it that a 20 year old kid wins the biggest race in NASCAR? :)



Cool? yes. However, it's more due to the randomness of the universe than anything else. It IS what makes NASCAR, but it was a minor miracle for people just finished that race.

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You're not going to bump draft if you cant rub bumpers. Besides this is the first race since they spent 20 million dollars and resurfaced the track. There was three wide racing in many spots on the track..and in the corners in some instances. But restrictor plate racing is a crapshoot from the start to the finish. It's 'random' to a small degree but skills, communication, and finding a teammate you can work with play more into it than just using a blanket 'randomness' term to use as a description of nascar as a whole.

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How cool is it that a 20 year old kid wins the biggest race in NASCAR? :)



Cool? yes. However, it's more due to the randomness of the universe than anything else. It IS what makes NASCAR, but it was a minor miracle for people just finished that race.

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You're not going to bump draft if you cant rub bumpers. Besides this is the first race since they spent 20 million dollars and resurfaced the track. There was three wide racing in many spots on the track..and in the corners in some instances. But restrictor plate racing is a crapshoot from the start to the finish. It's 'random' to a small degree but skills, communication, and finding a teammate you can work with play more into it than just using a blanket 'randomness' term to use as a description of nascar as a whole.


I think I heard Mark Martin once refer to restrictor plate racing as 'the lottery'. There's far more skill to driving NASCAR than one would expect.
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How cool is it that a 20 year old kid wins the biggest race in NASCAR? :)



Cool? yes. However, it's more due to the randomness of the universe than anything else. It IS what makes NASCAR, but it was a minor miracle for people just finished that race.

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You're not going to bump draft if you cant rub bumpers. Besides this is the first race since they spent 20 million dollars and resurfaced the track. There was three wide racing in many spots on the track..and in the corners in some instances. But restrictor plate racing is a crapshoot from the start to the finish. It's 'random' to a small degree but skills, communication, and finding a teammate you can work with play more into it than just using a blanket 'randomness' term to use as a description of nascar as a whole.


I think I heard Mark Martin once refer to restrictor plate racing as 'the lottery'. There's far more skill to driving NASCAR than one would expect.


Just ask Danica! :ph34r:


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