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Fuel's gone up ...... again :-(

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WOW!!! It's gone up to ~$3.25 or so for diesel around here (US gallon) and we think that's high. Gasoline (petrol to you guys over there) just dropped a couple cents and is running a little over $3 (again, the 4 quart US gallon:P)

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WOW!!! It's gone up to ~$3.25 or so for diesel around here (US gallon) and we think that's high. Gasoline (petrol to you guys over there) just dropped a couple cents and is running a little over $3 (again, the 4 quart US gallon:P)



I am seeing $3.55 a gallon for diesel here in the Seattle area. Then again I drive the Bugly or the Jetta with the TDI so I still get about 600 miles per tank:)( that works out to about 49 MPG in mixed city/hwy driving)

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Just paid £1.30 for a litre of diesel .... That's like Six quid a fucking gallon ..... (9.35 U.S. dollars) for an IMPERIAL Gallon for dead plants and critters.



Question: How much of your petrol prices are due to taxes? Do they make that info available to you? Is the VAT included in that price? Simply driving across a state line over here can yield >$0.80 a gallon savings.

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Just paid £1.30 for a litre of diesel .... That's like Six quid a fucking gallon ..... (9.35 U.S. dollars) for an IMPERIAL Gallon for dead plants and critters.




Suckers, mines red and a lot cheaper:P

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Just paid £1.30 for a litre of diesel .... That's like Six quid a fucking gallon ..... (9.35 U.S. dollars) for an IMPERIAL Gallon for dead plants and critters.




Suckers, mines red and a lot cheaper:P


Careful how loud you type that, Companero. They might hear you. Your country, along w/the rest of the EU, is in dire trouble. Your neighbor was forced to get into bed w/China over this turmoil. State-subsidized gas is only so until they change their minds about it.

http://www.barcelonareporter.com/index.php?/news/comments/spain_credit_crisis_forces_spaniards_to_move_back_with_parents/

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Ahh but I'm a yokel (ooh arr) and now only drive a tractor;)



In that respect, you're lucky then. Most people need to buy gas to commute & live. How about some compassion for us? If our machines stop driving the economy? Your tractor is going to stop, too...
BTW, it's "Hoo_Ah!" (Lt.Colonel Slade, retired)

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Ahh but I'm a yokel (ooh arr) and now only drive a tractor;)



In that respect, you're lucky then. Most people need to buy gas to commute & live. How about some compassion for us? If our machines stop driving the economy? Your tractor is going to stop, too...
BTW, it's "Hoo_Ah!" (Lt.Colonel Slade, retired)


He'll run it on bio-fuel - Sprouts are cheap:)

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In US terms at current exchange rates, the fuel pricing where I am works out to;
$4.71 for Unleaded 95 Octane and $4.31 for diesel per US liquid gallon at sea level.
Over here, fuel pricing varies per location relative to altitude above sea level.
I am currently uncertain what percentage of that price is taxation and levies.

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Here where I live, they're getting $3.389 for regular. Talk around these parts is, we're looking at $4.00 a gallon by the end of 2011 and $5.00 by 2012.
What I don't understand is, the greedy bastards producing gasoline are making billions. Their higher eschalon employees are getting huge salaries plus huge bonuses. That's bull-shit! The way I see it, the gasoline producers are pricing themselves out of the market and opening the gates for more electric cars and ethanol powered vehicles. Absolutely no consideration for folks that are having a hard time paying for gas now and need to get to work.


Chuck

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Here where I live, they're getting 4.389 for regular. Talk around these parts is, we're looking at $4.00 a gallon by the end of 2011 and $5.00 by 2012.
What I don't understand is, the greedy bastards producing gasoline are making billions. Their higher eschalon employees are getting huge salaries plus huge bonuses. That's bull-shit! The way I see it, the gasoline producers are pricing themselves out of the market and opening the gates for more electric cars and ethanol powered vehicles. Absolutely no consideration for folks that are having a hard time paying for gas now and need to get to work.


Chuck



Its just business

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Here where I live, they're getting 4.389 for regular. Talk around these parts is, we're looking at $4.00 a gallon by the end of 2011 and $5.00 by 2012.
What I don't understand is, the greedy bastards producing gasoline are making billions. Their higher eschalon employees are getting huge salaries plus huge bonuses. That's bull-shit! The way I see it, the gasoline producers are pricing themselves out of the market and opening the gates for more electric cars and ethanol powered vehicles. Absolutely no consideration for folks that are having a hard time paying for gas now and need to get to work.


Chuck



Its just business



Don't get me wrong, I can understand business but... how long are they gonna squeeze that turnip?


Chuck

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Hi Chuck,

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Here where I live, they're getting 4.389 for regular.



Is that a typo or is that what you are paying?

I just topped up one of my cars yesterday here in Beaverton, OR with Super for $3.259 which went up today by 6 cents/gallon due to an increase in state taxes. :S

The days of cheap energy are behind us.

As I have mentioned before, consider reading THE LONG EMERGENCY by Kunstler.

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Your MPHs are pathetic. It should read like this:
When I take the car, 15 miles, 15 minutes.
When I take the motorcycle, 15 miles, 10 minutes.

:P



I would but I have to do about 1/3 on surface streets with traffic and lights..

But I did get one of these for Christmas to help with that.

Oh and bikes up here in the convergence zone NW oif SEATTLE in the PACIFIC NorthWET... nah.. not happenin.. I dont care who ya are.. on the wet slick roads here.. you will NOT get the times you think you would... trust me.

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>The way I see it, the gasoline producers are pricing themselves out of the
> market and opening the gates for more electric cars and ethanol
>powered vehicles.

Well, to a degree. For a long time OPEC tried to control prices to prevent that from happening.

But they won't be able to do that forever. We're running out of oil, and even if we tripled the amount of drilling, that can only temporarily increase the flow of oil. As it becomes more scarce and harder to pump (and thus more expensive) people will use petroleum based fuels only for the more critical applications (military, aviation, feedstocks) and replace most transportation fuels with electricity, biofuels and synthetic fuels.

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Hi

The cost/gal and mpg is only 2/3 of the equation. The missing part of the equation is how may Miles/km you have to drive to get to work etc.



30 mile round trip each work day plus weekend drives - is now giving me a monthly fuel cost of £180+ :o

BP
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Just paid £1.30 for a litre of diesel .... That's like Six quid a fucking gallon ..... (9.35 U.S. dollars) for an IMPERIAL Gallon for dead plants and critters.



I paid £1.33 per litre of diesel on thursday evening and it was the cheapest I could get as I live off shore from the UK. Today it went up by 1p and next week it will go up by another 4p as they throw the extra vat on...

I've said it before but we (the people) should demand that prices are displayed less taxes and duties so every time you pay for something you are aware of just how much money you are giving the govt.

And every time you see the obscene amount of money BP/Shell etc make just remember they find the oil, drill it, shift it to a refinery (that they built and run), refine it, then transport it to a garage that they built and staff and then they sell it to us and make just a few pence per litre. The govt makes about 70p per litre for doing f*ck all....
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Well, to a degree. For a long time OPEC tried to control prices to prevent that from happening.

But they won't be able to do that forever. We're running out of oil, and even if we tripled the amount of drilling, that can only temporarily increase the flow of oil. As it becomes more scarce and harder to pump (and thus more expensive) people will use petroleum based fuels only for the more critical applications (military, aviation, feedstocks) and replace most transportation fuels with electricity, biofuels and synthetic fuels.



sweet thats what we want to hear, they will control the lithium and the elecricty too though won't they?

Any news on those spherical solar power generators they were working on in your regon a year or so back?

I guess nuclear is the short term answer, We are nuclear free and all hydro power in my island but from time to time, we run low on water in the dams.....

i guess the oil companies will be strategicly working towards control of the main grid?

My deisel car uses less tna 10 litres per 100km. Diesel is $1.40 per litre here + you pay $0.40 per litre (in my car) for road user charges.

You also get accident insurance in that however.
"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

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