How many of you ladies have "rented" yourself?

[kbordson 8]

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Ladies (notice the word usage) continue life with/without 'renting' and forget what others say/think because they are not in your shoes.

One of the most appropriate comments in this thread.


But... I also wanted to comment on the link by Arvoitus about the wedding ring. It's not the one that I have (I really love my star sapphire - not just for the DC comic reference... even acknowledging that I'm a "Marvel" girl.... but more so for the beauty of the epiasterism) but the one that you posted is cool too. It reminds me of the base of a centerfire cartridge.

[Nataly 38]

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I agree with you that it is becoming less and less common for women to want financial support out of a dating relationship. But for those women who do--and they still exist even if rarer--the dynamic is not so different than with prostitution.

That is the biggest load of bollocks... There are women who seek financial support from men, just as there are men who want to spend their money on their partner. Men are not stupid. Well, no more so than women, anyway!! Some men want the trophy wife and are all too happy to pay for an extravagant lifestyle-it's ridiculous to associate this with prostitution.

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[popsjumper 2]

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Any woman who needs a ring that takes up the whole hand is a woman who is very shallow in my book. They just want attention and bragging rights.

Should any woman get a wild hair and decide to buy me a ring, make it this one. Do you recognize it?

BTW...you're right on all counts.

My reality and yours are quite different.
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
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[SivaGanesha 2]

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Some men want the trophy wife and are all too happy to pay for an extravagant lifestyle-it's ridiculous to associate this with prostitution.

The man is willing to pay. The woman is willing to be paid. It is consensual.

Where, exactly, is this different from prostitution?

"It's hard to have fun at 4-way unless your whole team gets down to the ground safely to do it again!"--Northern California Skydiving League re USPA Safety Day, March 8, 2014

[JohnMitchell 16]

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Some men want the trophy wife and are all too happy to pay for an extravagant lifestyle-it's ridiculous to associate this with prostitution.

The man is willing to pay. The woman is willing to be paid. It is consensual.

Where, exactly, is this different from prostitution?

Because it's culturally approved and a legally binding contract.

[LuckyMcSwervy 0]

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The female.. well most spend a stupid amount of money on Make up, the right out fit and the right shoes (Which I don't think most guys even know exist).

Guys, even if you buy a $200 dinner.. you can bet she spent close to the same amount so she could look her best,

But the same argument could equally be applied to real prostitutes. A prostitute--as in someone actually walking the street--probably also spent a lot of money on makeup, a sexy outfit, etc--so that she can attract customers. It is part of the cost of doing business for her. If she is good at what she does her revenue will exceed her expenses.

Now with regard to "dating" situations--I'm not saying that all women are "gold diggers" but just speaking about women who might be described as "gold diggers". For such a woman, the real financial reward isn't the free dinner during the date, but the much greater financial rewards that will come when the man is persuaded to "commit".

I agree with you that it is becoming less and less common for women to want financial support out of a dating relationship. But for those women who do--and they still exist even if rarer--the dynamic is not so different than with prostitution.

She can write that stuff off as business expenses if she has a good accountant.

Always be kinder than you feel.

[vskydiver 0]

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Some men want the trophy wife and are all too happy to pay for an extravagant lifestyle-it's ridiculous to associate this with prostitution.

The man is willing to pay. The woman is willing to be paid. It is consensual.

Where, exactly, is this different from prostitution?
26 years of large kitchen appliances amongst other things.

Because it's culturally approved and a legally binding contract.

[JohnMitchell 16]

Don't forget the new washer and dryer and the Skydiving in Thailand.

[vskydiver 0]

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Don't forget the new washer and dryer and the Skydiving in Thailand.

Oh! Can't for get that! And much, much more too! Come here big boy! I think I owe you!

[tbrown 26]

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I dated a girl who many years later explained she wanted to do me for $20, just so she could feel really dirty.

That was probably the hardest she ever worked for $20

It was fun too.

She is not a skank, just horny as can be and still looks great.

And that's a FUN game to play. Just like playing teacher & schoolgirl, rich bitch & pool boy, professor and student who need an "A", arrested & molested by a sexy cop, etc, etc. Gives us all a chance to let go of a few inhibitions and feel as "dirty" as we want to be. Not the same as the real thing, not like doing the first ugly rude stranger with the money. Not like being beat up if you don't. Not like having the money taken away from you by your pimp, being arrested, or having your passport stolen and being sold in the underworld.

Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity !

[shah269 0]

Playboy's Hefner announces Christmas engagement on Twitter

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20101226/tc_nm/us_usa_hefner

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What did a very well to do friend once tell me?
"Shah money isn't an ends to it self, it is a means to an end. And what ends you get will be well worth the means by which you got there...."

Look there is no difference between this girl in this picture or the 6 or so ladies in the last Yoga studio i visited where all of them were sporting rocks just a bit smaller than my Alti. I'm sure the loved the guy.....but I'm sure they love him a little more after he placed a $20k ring on her finger.

Now again, before I get screamed at and called all kinds of names. This statement holds water with the "average" person. You may be smart enough to be outside of the norm. In which case more power to you.
But we are talking about "average" social norms.

Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay.

The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools!

[Bolas 5]

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Some men want the trophy wife and are all too happy to pay for an extravagant lifestyle-it's ridiculous to associate this with prostitution.

The man is willing to pay. The woman is willing to be paid. It is consensual.

Where, exactly, is this different from prostitution?

Because it's culturally approved and a legally binding contract.

Yep. Much better to have people that can't be faithful get someone knocked up, get marrried, cheat again, and destroy a family vs. someone just paying for sex.

Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting
If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh.

[shah269 0]

Blame the guys with SPD fearing the working girls would talk about their lack of endowment.

Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay.

The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools!

[skyflower_bloom 0]

I think the modern arrangement of a "sugar daddy" or "mutually beneficial arrangement" is more common than many realize. Basically a cross between a "standard" relationship as a couple, and an ongoing "regular client"/escort relationship.

The woman knows she is expected to meet sexual needs, and enjoys doing so. The man knows that in order for the woman to keep up the outfits, pedicures, physical appearances he likes, the lifestyle she needs or wants or both, the hours at work or school to be available around his busy schedule, whatever it may be, that it takes $, thus he is willing and more than able to help support her. Everyone's happy.

I actually have very few if any moral issues with this type of relationship, of course granted that it is consensual, that both parties actually enjoy their roles and are on equal footing and mutually respect one another, etc.

If the man has the money and enjoys spending it on keeping his girlfriend happy, well groomed, and available, and the girlfriend enjoys trying new things, actually likes sex, and actually likes the man himself, they actually do fun things and have new experiences together, etc. it seems like a win-win.

If everyone is up front about the fact that they are not looking for a long-term relationship with some of the strings that may come with traditional relationships (i.e. knows this is not leading into a marriage proposal- though in some cases it could), it can still be a respectful and meaningful interchange in my opinion and is quite common among college students and young just out of college women, in my own observations.

And these are empowered women, no shame, no pressure, who enjoy their boyfriends but also the freedom that comes with such and most are actually working or in school, saving up, planning for the long term, these are not women who want to snag a "trophy wife" status and show off their bling..

I guess that conceptualization is a more dating-type arrangement than, say, the stereotypical "stand on the corner and hop in whoever's car" ridiculousness, but there is still an element of exchange acknowledged, and it is different from the exchange of lifelong commitment/marriage. But, my two cents, such less than stereotypical "renting" is much more common than realized in my view as a woman.

And not all women want their boyfriends (or fiances, or clients, or whoever the fruck they're frucking) to buy them a big ole rock for the finger... I, for example, would take a custom rainbow ZPX Pilot 168 to put in my new Vector 3 container with PD reserve and CYPRES... the last missing link in my set-up... any takers? (And to those empowered women, and horny men, who think I am actually offering up my own price, apologies in advance and tongue planted firmly in cheek...)

"You must be the change you wish to see in the world." Gandhi

[shah269 0]

I had to write a paper early in my graduate education as to why I wanted an MBA. I almost wrote something very similar. Something on the level of "I want to be make enough monty to live the life of Barney Stinson" my mentor after reading it said perhaps I should reconsider my "reasoning for being enrolled. My friends thought it was a good giggle and sadly in a very sad way.....well.....you are right.

Such is life, as a friend once said....money isn't an end to it self rather it is a means to an end .

And that end could be getting a rather attractive life partner to think you are worth the time or.....living a life that is worth the time.

Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay.

The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools!

[Bolas 5]

Call me crazy but my primary motivation for doing things is things I enjoy, not things that may get me laid/find a girlfriend.

That's a secondary factor.

Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting
If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh.

[skyflower_bloom 0]

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Call me crazy but my primary motivation for doing things is things I enjoy, not things that may get me laid/find a girlfriend.

That's a secondary factor.

But don't you enjoy getting laid? Why does that have to be a separate category??

If you enjoy (hypothetical) skydiving in Empuriabrava, and getting laid, and a hot chick enjoys the same, why not go together and have the time of your life skydiving and getting laid? The imbalance is simply that while both enjoy both, the said arrangement implies the girl enjoys the travel slightly more than the sex, and the man enjoys the sex slightly more than the travel (which may not be a fair assumption at all, granted!!) but you see what I mean?

"You must be the change you wish to see in the world." Gandhi

[warpedskydiver 0]

Pssst, she is hot for you Bolas, you skygod you!

[shah269 0]

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Call me crazy but my primary motivation for doing things is things I enjoy, not things that may get me laid/find a girlfriend.

That's a secondary factor.

Thus why my friend stated money is an means to an end and not a means in it self.

So money won't buy you love, but it will put you in a really good place so that maybe love can find you.

And that could be the love of the world, of adventure or....other.

But you know you can get lucky. I was. I did. I can say all i want about my x wife but one thing I will say is that she was never a money hungry girl and was very happy just getting a little gift when I came back home from one of my business trips. But I think she was the exception to the rule. Sadly over the past year of dating and looking around....I have to say one of the best things I ever did was furthering my education so as to get a better job and maybe make some more cash because I don't think I will be lucky twice.

But you know, as sad as it sounds from the view of the guy with being under the pressure of either looking rather good (which I don't think I do) or making sufficient money to look good.....I have to say I'm glad I'm a guy in this exchange for I have two options. Look good or make good money. Sadly no matter how well off a woman is, we guys well.....let's just say you can't push rope. And in an odd way time works in the favor of your average guy. We make more we become more solvent and look better on paper. Sadly on average, the same can't be said about how time treats women.

Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay.

The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools!

[Bolas 5]

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Pssst, she is hot for you Bolas, you skygod you!

If she's hot for me, she can pay for my trip as I can't swing even 1 ticket to Empuria right now. Or we can take a smaller trip now and go to Empuria later.

Have her PM me and we'll figure it out.

Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting
If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh.

[skyflower_bloom 0]

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Pssst, she is hot for you Bolas, you skygod you!

If she's hot for me, she can pay for my trip as I can't swing even 1 ticket to Empuria right now. Or we can take a smaller trip now and go to Empuria later.

Have her PM me and we'll figure it out.

Haha, perhaps we can trade off then. When you have money, you can be my suga' daddy. When I have money, I'll be your suga' momma. oh wait.. that's more of a... relationship... I think we were trying to avoid those...

I like your plan though! Soon as I find the main I want and have a complete set-up, we'll figure out where we wanna go.. don't think I want to try to make any jumps on a reserve-only set-up but hey, maybe you pay for a demo canopy for a few weeks and we'll talk..



(Are we going to get this thread locked..? Ok ok mods- and Bolas- I will PM or facebook all my solicitations from now on...)

"You must be the change you wish to see in the world." Gandhi

[skyflower_bloom 0]

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And in an odd way time works in the favor of your average guy. We make more we become more solvent and look better on paper. Sadly on average, the same can't be said about how time treats women.

This is rather true.. I mean, you hear about older gal/younger guy sometimes, but typically reverse is true-- that said I do NOT think it is all about man= time gains money, versus woman=time loses physical beauty or youth. Yeah that might be part of it talking on a general level within our culture as well as our species, but at least IMO, an older man is often more attractive in maturity/life experience/stability-- no not just money related- but also physically, I think many men are more attractive in the conventional sense a bit later than their counterpart women are at their physical prime.. don't have any scientific data, just me own two cents..

"You must be the change you wish to see in the world." Gandhi

[Bolas 5]

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don't think I want to try to make any jumps on a reserve-only set-up

Not into BASE, eh?

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(Are we going to get this thread locked..? Ok ok mods- and Bolas- I will PM or facebook all my solicitations from now on...)

They do have a no advertising/sales policy except in the classifieds.

My facebook is in my profile.

Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting
If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh.

[skyflower_bloom 0]

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don't think I want to try to make any jumps on a reserve-only set-up

Not into BASE, eh?

Lol.

I would be terrified. But it would probably be awesome anyway. In fact, lately I am terrified with TWO good parachutes on me back lol.. so I think the BASE world will have to wait awhile for me...

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(Are we going to get this thread locked..? Ok ok mods- and Bolas- I will PM or facebook all my solicitations from now on...)

They do have a no advertising/sales policy except in the classifieds.

My facebook is in my profile.

Bolas!! I am already your facebook friend!! Are you that easy that you'd agree to this little arrangement without seeing my pic except a teeny li'l orange parachute in the distance next to my post!? It is a pretty sexy parachute.. but still..

"You must be the change you wish to see in the world." Gandhi