ltdiver 3 #1 December 22, 2010 It's been raining pretty dang hard the past week here in SoCal. On top of that, news reports point to a powerful thunderstorm hitting tonight. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40762935/ns/weather/ Just got home and there's a flood watch bulletin on my answering machine. First one that's ever been broadcast in this area. Sheriff will call if it upgrades to mandatory. How's other folks property doing? Any evacuations yet? ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squirrel 0 #2 December 22, 2010 been under flash flood warnings up here in the high desert...even had the KTLA news chopper up here showing the Mojave river which is flowing strong. other than that, just some flooded intersections in town. ________________________________ Where is Darwin when you need him? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NickDG 23 #3 December 22, 2010 The just started evacuating here in La Crescenta. Also in La Canada/Flintridge. But so far not our block. We are all right below the burn areas from the Station Fire and you probably recall me going on about this last year. They said then it would be at least five years before the vegetation root systems became deep and hearty enough to hold the soil during these week long storms. NickD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #4 December 22, 2010 Ok here is Dago, but my sons new car sunk into the dirt in Ramona,(where it is hidden), so I am sending a tow truck to get it out so he gets it for Christmas! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiver30960 0 #5 December 22, 2010 Dude, don't let Nina get wet. Ride her up the stairs a-la Animal House before they make you evacuate if that's what it takes. Elvisio "I gave my love a cherry that had no stone" Rodriguez Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
plorensen 0 #6 December 22, 2010 You guys in socal have got a bunch of rain.My pops in Grover Beach said he got at least 14" of rain. Here in the East Bay Area we have had maybe 3".I hope it dries up down there because Im shootin down to Imperial Beach on the 26th. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nanook 1 #7 December 22, 2010 I live south of Perris off the 215 about the same latitude as Elsinore. . .It never stopped raining here. Thank goodness this is a newer neighborhood with all the new drainage systems._____________________________ "The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you can never know if they are genuine" - Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmytavino 16 #8 December 22, 2010 have been wondering about that as well....we think 11 or 12 inches of SNOW,, is an issue, and you folks are getting that much rain....Yikes.. the news said 17 FEET of snow in the Sierras!!!... OMG. How do you handle THAT?? i seem to recall reading, years ago , that lake Elsinore rose to the point of impacting the DZ there.... am Hoping,,, for sure. that this system ends. and soon... hell,, send it east... we'll take some of it's fury....... in order to spare YOU. good luck jt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NickDG 23 #9 December 22, 2010 Elsinore used to flood out pretty regularly before the canals were put in. I remember more than once floating around the DZ in rowboat. The DZ was called "Skyworld" in those days but we called it "Carpworld!" LOL! NickD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #10 December 22, 2010 I imagin the Perris landing area is back to being Lake Perris South! When it gets this wet , it turns into quicksand like mud....A lot of shoes lost in that mud.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squirrel 0 #11 December 22, 2010 time to drain the pool down, again. it came up at least 3 inches over night, which is alot for the high desert. ________________________________ Where is Darwin when you need him? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grimmie 186 #12 December 22, 2010 My pool is overflowing. My back patio is flooded. The garage floor looks like Lake Erie. Our friends across the street have a river flowing from their neighbors house, under the fence and into their lower family room. We used a bunch of sandbags yesterday and couldn't stop it. It's raining like hell right now. I'm going to drink some coffee and watch cartoons with the kids. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #13 December 22, 2010 Historically speaking, this is why smart mid westerners and Native Americans (think of all the river valleys) occupied high ground. Not the very top but just below it with the wind being abated by the hill. Makes sense now doesn't it? I have a surveying and civil engineering background (amongst other crap) and all systems will eventually fail unless there is sufficient vertical relief. So if you are at the bottom of slope or near it, you will someday go swimming. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #14 December 22, 2010 Quote It's been raining pretty dang hard the past week here in SoCal. On top of that, news reports point to a powerful thunderstorm hitting tonight. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40762935/ns/weather/ Just got home and there's a flood watch bulletin on my answering machine. First one that's ever been broadcast in this area. Sheriff will call if it upgrades to mandatory. How's other folks property doing? Any evacuations yet? ltdiver Ah the joys of flooding. ALL of the valleys here flood almost every year. I made VERY sure when I bought my house that I was far above ANY possible flooding or landslides. I specifically bought my home in the foothills of the Cascades, on a hill in an area called The Bluffs Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 16 #15 December 22, 2010 QuoteElsinore used to flood out pretty regularly before the canals were put in. So that's why it's open again and stays dry. I remember it flooding and being closed for years. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #16 December 22, 2010 Quote Quote It's been raining pretty dang hard the past week here in SoCal. On top of that, news reports point to a powerful thunderstorm hitting tonight. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40762935/ns/weather/ Just got home and there's a flood watch bulletin on my answering machine. First one that's ever been broadcast in this area. Sheriff will call if it upgrades to mandatory. How's other folks property doing? Any evacuations yet? ltdiver Ah the joys of flooding. ALL of the valleys here flood almost every year. I made VERY sure when I bought my house that I was far above ANY possible flooding or landslides. I specifically bought my home in the foothills of the Cascades, on a hill in an area called The Bluffs See what I mean? It's not like there was no flooding in WI every spring. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #17 December 22, 2010 Grimm's neighborhood sounds much like mine, the houses across the street are all flooding , they were built about a foot lower than ours! Our pool has been overflowing for days, but it flows past the house into the street, only gets about an inch deep on the ground... I guess this is the price we pay for such Beautiful weather most years... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #18 December 22, 2010 All those nice big Glaciers that melted away only 15000 years ago or so left a mess there as they did here. I had a chance to buy a really pretty house to the east of my on the Skykomish River. It was gorgeous, and would have been a wonderful home. It had not flooded since it was originally built in the early 1980's. BUT ... It sat on the river in a big BEND of the river. It is only a matter of time till the river does its thing. One Hawaiian Express after another early winter of heavy snowfall in the high country ( we are talking up to 20 ft or more usually )and the house and all the neighbors in the "Big Bend" will go away. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #19 December 22, 2010 Quote All those nice big Glaciers that melted away only 15000 years ago or so left a mess there as they did here. I had a chance to buy a really pretty house to the east of my on the Skykomish River. It was gorgeous, and would have been a wonderful home. It had not flooded since it was originally built in the early 1980's. BUT ... It sat on the river in a big BEND of the river. It is only a matter of time till the river does its thing. One Hawaiian Express after another early winter of heavy snowfall in the high country ( we are talking up to 20 ft or more usually )and the house and all the neighbors in the "Big Bend" will go away. You can't help but wonder what some people were thinking when they either bought, or built in some area's! Like building homes on the shores off the Mo. river... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,998 #20 December 22, 2010 >this is why smart mid westerners and Native Americans (think of all the >river valleys) occupied high ground. Not the very top but just below it with >the wind being abated by the hill. Makes sense now doesn't it? It does - until the slope you're living on starts sliding into the valley. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #21 December 22, 2010 Quote>this is why smart mid westerners and Native Americans (think of all the >river valleys) occupied high ground. Not the very top but just below it with >the wind being abated by the hill. Makes sense now doesn't it? It does - until the slope you're living on starts sliding into the valley. Which should be happening some time today in Southern Cal. first little tremur, (which we have daily) and many of these hill top homes will be in the valley! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #22 December 22, 2010 That's why engineers examine the soil borings and compaction. Unless you have 90% of modified proctor scale you do not build. Also some of the much older houses were pinned onto rock or on driven pilings. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #23 December 22, 2010 QuoteThat's why engineers (Are Supposed to)examine the soil borings and compaction. Unless you have 90% of modified proctor scale you do not build. Also some of the much older houses were pinned onto rock or on driven pilings. There fixed it for ya...when they built on the hills above our house, I was able to shove a 5 foot long walking stick into the dirt in the center of a fondation before they poured it....Those houses have been cracking and moving every year since... How they got away with it, I have no clue! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #24 December 22, 2010 Payola! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #25 December 22, 2010 Quote Payola! Yep, with starting prices of 450, and dozens of houses, they were able to greese a few palms Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites