1969912 0 #1 November 25, 2010 Watch the video on the link below. At first it looks like they are just falling with a little fwd speed from the exit launch, but later views look like they are actually tracking. Maybe they can distort their cross-section into a stubby airfoil? It would be cool to see even longer flights. http://www.aolnews.com/weird-news/article/pentagon-wants-secret-of-flying-snakes/19732183?test=latestnews "Once we got to the point where twenty/something's needed a place on the corner that changed the oil in their cars we were doomed . . ." -NickDG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matthewcline 0 #2 November 25, 2010 It's Atmo! Seriously though, it does look like they flatten out their bodies in the longer shots. I guess it is kind of a version of what we do with tracking. MattAn Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thrillstalker 0 #3 November 25, 2010 thats pretty cool!"Never grow a wishbone, where your backbone ought to be." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #4 November 25, 2010 Quote It's Atmo! Seriously though, it does look like they flatten out their bodies in the longer shots. I guess it is kind of a version of what we do with tracking. Matt I'd stick a GoPro one one! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
futuredivot 0 #5 November 25, 2010 Quote Quote It's Atmo! Seriously though, it does look like they flatten out their bodies in the longer shots. I guess it is kind of a version of what we do with tracking. Matt I'd stick a GoPro one one! First check their logbooks to make sure they have enough jumps.You are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matthewcline 0 #6 November 25, 2010 Quote Quote Quote It's Atmo! Seriously though, it does look like they flatten out their bodies in the longer shots. I guess it is kind of a version of what we do with tracking. Matt I'd stick a GoPro one one! First check their logbooks to make sure they have enough jumps. No need, They have "Mads Skillz" and they can jump a velo too! MattAn Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heatmiser 0 #7 November 26, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote It's Atmo! Seriously though, it does look like they flatten out their bodies in the longer shots. I guess it is kind of a version of what we do with tracking. Matt I'd stick a GoPro one one! First check their logbooks to make sure they have enough jumps. No need, They have "Mads Skillz" and they can jump a velo too! Matt They say "Fuck a Velo!" Theyre landing their wingsuits now!What you say is reflective of your knowledge...HOW ya say it is reflective of your experience. Airtwardo Someone's going to be spanked! Hopefully, it will be me. Skymama Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squirrel 0 #8 November 26, 2010 "so you want to fly a wing suit" ________________________________ Where is Darwin when you need him? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #9 November 26, 2010 http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2010/11/101124-flying-snakes-fly-science-darpa-dod-socha/quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #10 November 26, 2010 i Remember watch them back with I had the NGC...Best cable channel out there for my money! It figures our government would hire people to study what is already scientically well documented Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #11 November 26, 2010 Quote It figures our government would hire people to study what is already scientically well documented Understanding how animals loco-mote is one thing; practically applying that is entirely another. Otherwise we'd have flapping airliners and eight-legged jeeps. It's valid research to try to figure it more more in depth.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #12 November 26, 2010 Quote Quote It figures our government would hire people to study what is already scientically well documented Understanding how animals loco-mote is one thing; practically applying that is entirely another. Otherwise we'd have flapping airliners and eight-legged jeeps. It's valid research to try to figure it more more in depth. You totally missed my point, "research" that has "Already" been done, to great extent! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 16 #13 November 26, 2010 Interesting. A few things I noticed. Of course, we understand that from a no-wind start, you have to fall a while to build up flying speed. The one scientist watching the video talked about how at first, the snake looked like it was just falling. I thought they'd not be surprised by that. I noticed the snakes turn the main part of their body sideways to the relative wind. This gives them a high aspect ratio wing, therefore a more efficient glide. Very nice. From a 50 ft platform the snakes flew up to 80 feet. Allowing for 10 feet or so to build up flying speed, and from watching the video, I estimate their glide ratio at about 2 to 1. In the article, they spoke of snakes flying 800 feet. That must have been going down a slope, because I don't think there are too many (any) 400 foot trees in the world. It's nice to see some videos showing scientific research and posing questions to the audience. However, I hated the voice over talking about how the snakes "defy gravity." They fly using well established scientific principles. There is no mysterious defiance of anything. I hate it when mysticism is paraded as science, and vice versa, and sensationalism is used to sell science. >>>> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kasch 0 #14 November 26, 2010 QuoteNo need, They have "Mads Skillz" and they can jump a velo too! Matt pro swooper snakes!Sex with sith is like sex with a stripper. A lot of flashing lights and waving of glowing sabers, but in the end you end up with something dark and wrinkely. DPH# "-13" TSK# "-13" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1969912 0 #15 November 26, 2010 Yeah, the high aspect ratio wing idea was what I was thinking as well. "Once we got to the point where twenty/something's needed a place on the corner that changed the oil in their cars we were doomed . . ." -NickDG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #16 November 26, 2010 It just figures the pentagon will spend millions studying something that hundreds of scientist have already done studiess on, and documented their findings!http://animals.nationalgeographic.com/animals/reptiles/flying-snake/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #17 November 26, 2010 ~on a couple of the snake B.A.S.E. jumpers, it looks like they stiffen their tail a bit to make a spring/shock absorber for landing. Probably not a lotta evolutionary trial and error involved in the face-plant = headache formula. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kasch 0 #18 November 26, 2010 Quote~on a couple of the snake B.A.S.E. jumpers, it looks like they stiffen their tail a bit to make a spring/shock absorber for landing. Probably not a lotta evolutionary trial and error involved in the face-plant = headache formula. probably lost a few fangs before the developed the Snake Landing FallSex with sith is like sex with a stripper. A lot of flashing lights and waving of glowing sabers, but in the end you end up with something dark and wrinkely. DPH# "-13" TSK# "-13" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matthewcline 0 #19 November 27, 2010 What DARPA is doing is refining the science and seeing if it can be applied to the Human Body. MattAn Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #20 November 27, 2010 Quote What DARPA is doing is refining the science and seeing if it can be applied to the Human Body. Matt So I can finally use my fangs AND my tail!! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matthewcline 0 #21 November 27, 2010 And those gills and webbed feet! MattAn Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #22 November 27, 2010 Quote And those gills and webbed feet! Matt Hey easy now...I'm a little sensitive about the webbed feet! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 16 #23 November 27, 2010 It's gonna be hell trying to land sideways like them snakes do. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #24 November 27, 2010 Quote It's gonna be hell trying to land sideways like them snakes do. You've obviously never seen me land! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #25 November 27, 2010 Quote ~on a couple of the snake B.A.S.E. jumpers, it looks like they stiffen their tail a bit to make a spring/shock absorber for landing. Probably not a lotta evolutionary trial and error involved in the face-plant = headache formula. It's not "snake B.A.S.E.", but "snake Atmonauti""There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
