Guest #26 November 1, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Saw this and it made me wonder if there are any tranny jumpers. ________________________ Yes. Yup. Marcie jumps at Lodi. Contact via Cathy Dause. mh . I hope to hell you asked them, before passing on that little tidbit... Is a home DZ personal information? I doubt it, and I don't think Marcie will either. mh . being Transexual is damn well personal information! Marcie publicized it on the Internet a decade ago. Now please quit moralizing about people you don't even know. mh . edit for spelling"The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 16 #27 November 1, 2010 Quote That depends on if you are Divot or not . . . He'd pretty open about his addadicktame he had a few years ago. Too bad. I heard it ended up smaller than the original clitoris. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #28 November 1, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Saw this and it made me wonder if there are any tranny jumpers. ________________________ Yes. Yup. Marcie jumps at Lodi. Contact via Cathy Dause. mh . I hope to hell you asked them, before passing on that little tidbit... Is a home DZ personal information? I doubt it, and I don't think Marcie will either. mh . being Transexual is damn well personal information! Marcie publicized it on the Internet a decade ago. Now please quit moralizing about people you don't even know. mh . edit for spelling Moralizing??I asked a question, you COULD have answered it the first time! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #29 November 1, 2010 Quote Quote That depends on if you are Divot or not . . . He'd pretty open about his addadicktame he had a few years ago. Too bad. I heard it ended up smaller than the original clitoris. Hard not to . . . that's pretty much all of him.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #30 November 2, 2010 QuoteQuoteWho cares! As long as they buy beer and aren't doing anything stupid that could get anyone killed does it matter? ...and as long as they aren't engineers or anything over a size 8. (This only applies to the ones who became women.) Nah beer makes all of us equals. No matter the size, shape, religion or ability to tan or not.Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davjohns 1 #31 November 2, 2010 I recall some controversy a few years ago about a tranny runner. I think it was a guy who became a girl. They claimed a lifetime as a guy gave him greater muscle mass and an unfair advantage over the natural women. Might have been an Olympic issue. Not sure how they settled it.I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #32 November 2, 2010 QuoteI recall some controversy a few years ago about a tranny runner. I think it was a guy who became a girl. They claimed a lifetime as a guy gave him greater muscle mass and an unfair advantage over the natural women. Might have been an Olympic issue. Not sure how they settled it. In the Olympics, steroids and hormones are not allowed, so the hormones allone would disquilify him/her.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davjohns 1 #33 November 2, 2010 This was on about.com. Not vouching for it. "Transsexual athletes who have undergone a sex-change operation are now allowed to compete in the Olympic games. The International Olympic Committee stated in November 2003 that, “We will have no discrimination,” at the Olympics. "I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #34 November 2, 2010 Quote This was on about.com. Not vouching for it. "Transsexual athletes who have undergone a sex-change operation are now allowed to compete in the Olympic games. The International Olympic Committee stated in November 2003 that, “We will have no discrimination,” at the Olympics. " that is going to make women's "track and field" just THAT much more attractive.I bet gillete and norelco have bigger sponsorship budgets then.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Southern_Man 0 #35 November 2, 2010 QuoteI recall some controversy a few years ago about a tranny runner. I think it was a guy who became a girl. They claimed a lifetime as a guy gave him greater muscle mass and an unfair advantage over the natural women. Might have been an Olympic issue. Not sure how they settled it. There has been a lot of controversy about Caster Semenya, an 800m runner from South Africa. She was apparently born transgender with undescended testicles. For better or worse the actual facts have not been made public due to privacy issues so there are a lot of rumors and speculation. Caster is still competing, possibly after surgery or hormone treatment."What if there were no hypothetical questions?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 16 #36 November 2, 2010 And years ago there was Dr. Renae Richards, a former man, who competed in ladies tennis. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest #37 November 2, 2010 QuoteAnd years ago there was Dr. Renae Richards, a former man, who competed in ladies tennis. Is it just me, or does that seem like cheating somehow? Imagine want to be a champion so bad (but being marginal in one's own category) to having a sex change in order to obtain an advantage in the other category? The mind boggles. mh ."The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #38 November 2, 2010 Quote Quote And years ago there was Dr. Renae Richards, a former man, who competed in ladies tennis. Is it just me, or does that seem like cheating somehow? Imagine want to be a champion so bad (but being marginal in one's own category) to having a sex change in order to obtain an advantage in the other category? The mind boggles. mh . The LPGA doesn't allow "former men" to compete. And are being sued over it. I can see both sides of the argument, and I don't really have an opinion either way, just adding a bit of fuel to the fireLA Times"There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy "~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #39 November 2, 2010 QuoteQuoteAnd years ago there was Dr. Renae Richards, a former man, who competed in ladies tennis. Is it just me, or does that seem like cheating somehow? Imagine want to be a champion so bad (but being marginal in one's own category) to having a sex change in order to obtain an advantage in the other category? The mind boggles. mh . It IS heating, and clearly defined in the rules, "No hormones"...which they have to take....So it is cheating Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Southern_Man 0 #40 November 2, 2010 Quote It IS heating, and clearly defined in the rules, "No hormones"...which they have to take....So it is cheating Depends entirely on the circumstances. There are provisions in the doping code for an athlete to get a Therpuetic Use Exemption, which allows them to take an otherwise prohibited substance for legitimate medical reasons. This is incredibly common as all asthma medications (just one common example) are banned without a TUE. Generally a substance which decreased performance would be granted. Medications that would lower T values and raise E values, for example. There are published reports (unconfirmed) that Caster Semenya was required to submit to hormone therapy for her intersex condition before reutrning to competition."What if there were no hypothetical questions?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #41 November 2, 2010 QuoteQuoteAnd years ago there was Dr. Renae Richards, a former man, who competed in ladies tennis. Is it just me, or does that seem like cheating somehow? Imagine want to be a champion so bad (but being marginal in one's own category) to having a sex change in order to obtain an advantage in the other category? The mind boggles. mh . Agreed. There are biological differences between men and women, which is why most sports have separate classes, so the women can compete on a level playing field. A transexual who was born a man and became a woman, is still biologically a man It would not be fair for women to have to compete against them."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
