mdrejhon 8 #1 October 21, 2010 Hello, You know the plane crash in Democratic Republic of Congo last August that killed 20? It was now reported this was because the airplane stalled because of a smuggled crocodile. It escaped, and panicked passengers ran towards the cabin. The plane stalled, and the plane crashed. CBS News -- Airplane Crashes after Crocodile Causes Panic ---- This is also applicable to skydiving -- the moral of the story is be careful of stalling the plane during skydiving -- respect those line markers on Skyvan's and don't move around too much ESPECIALLY during takeoffs and landings. (Seatbuilts rule helps!) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Southern_Man 0 #2 October 21, 2010 Also, don't smuggle any crocidiles onto your jump plane."What if there were no hypothetical questions?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skipbelt 0 #3 October 21, 2010 see ya later alligator ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #4 October 21, 2010 Any plane can stall, and not all of them have a line inside the fuselage with info indicating how many should not be past it on exit."Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DiverMike 5 #5 October 21, 2010 It escaped, and panicked passengers ran towards the rear of the cabin. fixed it for you. If they ran towards the front, the center of gravity would shifted towards the front of the plane decreasing the likelihood of a stall. For the same reason I jump off a perfectly good diving board. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mdrejhon 8 #6 October 21, 2010 QuoteIt escaped, and panicked passengers ran towards the rear of the cabin. fixed it for you. If they ran towards the front, the center of gravity would shifted towards the front of the plane decreasing the likelihood of a stall.That's not always the case for all planes, though the result may be a "dive" rather than a "stall". The sources I've read says the passengers ran towards the COCKPIT: http://www.torontosun.com/news/weird/2010/10/21/15777131.html Maybe perhaps the plane didn't quite stall, but went into a sudden dive during a low approach. Shifting load towards cockpit can do that, just like pulling down on your front risers at flare time can be dangerous, especially on highly loaded wings. (wham) Regardless, the plane got unbalanced -- sudden center of gravity shift. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skipbelt 0 #7 October 21, 2010 QuoteAny plane can stall, and not all of them have a line inside the fuselage with info indicating how many should not be past it on exit.i don't know if this is entirely true , canard type airplanes were designed to be unable to stall at least theoretically. and fly by wire type aircraft have stall and stall entry programmed out ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #8 October 21, 2010 I haven't read the link yet, but I took for granted is was "pilot freaked" not a matter of CG! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #9 October 21, 2010 I heard the croc was navigating. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #10 October 21, 2010 QuoteI heard the croc was navigating. He thought he was DB Cooper.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #11 October 21, 2010 This just cries out for a movie-of-the-week: "Crocodiles on a Plane"... Hmmm.... Doesn't have quite the same ring to it. "There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Southern_Man 0 #12 October 21, 2010 Quote This just cries out for a movie-of-the-week: "Crocodiles on a Plane"... Hmmm.... Doesn't have quite the same ring to it. I have had it with these motherfucking crockidiles on this motherfucking plane! No, you are right, just not the same."What if there were no hypothetical questions?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cocheese 0 #13 October 21, 2010 They were doing the crocodile rock? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Programmer 0 #14 October 21, 2010 I read the link. The news report doesn't use the word "stalled". It says the airplane was "thrown off balance" during approach to the airport when everyone ran forward. That makes perfectly good sense. As my grandmother used to say, "Them crocodiles is good with sweet potatoes." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skipbelt 0 #15 October 21, 2010 Quote They were doing the crocodile rock? in awhile crocodile ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #16 October 21, 2010 Quote Quote This just cries out for a movie-of-the-week: "Crocodiles on a Plane"... Hmmm.... Doesn't have quite the same ring to it. I have had it with these motherfucking crockidiles on this motherfucking plane! No, you are right, just not the same. I thought that too, before I saw your post! "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
david3 0 #17 October 22, 2010 QuoteI heard the croc was navigating. 5 left then cut! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pchapman 279 #18 October 22, 2010 Quote don't move around too much ESPECIALLY during takeoffs and landings. (Seatbuilts rule helps!) Fine, but YOU can strap the crocodile in! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aykay 0 #19 October 22, 2010 It was reported as a LET-410. When I jumped in Russia the pilots were often asking everyone to move further towards the rear of the plane. I read they ran to the front so maybe that could be worse then the rear? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mutumbo 0 #20 October 22, 2010 Quote They were doing the crocodile rock? lmao. Thanatos340(on landing rounds)-- Landing procedure: Hand all the way up, Feet and Knees Together and PLF soon as you get bitch slapped by a planet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beerlight 0 #21 October 22, 2010 Dumbasses abound.....!! Whether a forward or aft CG! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #22 October 22, 2010 Quotethe moral of the story is be careful of stalling the plane... don't move around too much ESPECIALLY during takeoffs and landings. Who's gonna explain that to the freakin' crocodile? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #23 October 22, 2010 Quote Dumbasses abound.....!! Whether a forward or aft CG! Hey, don't knock aft CG. That was the basis for one of my most vivid skydiving memories.."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mutumbo 0 #24 October 22, 2010 wait, did the crocodile survive?Thanatos340(on landing rounds)-- Landing procedure: Hand all the way up, Feet and Knees Together and PLF soon as you get bitch slapped by a planet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrewEckhardt 0 #25 October 22, 2010 Quote Quote Dumbasses abound.....!! Whether a forward or aft CG! Hey, don't knock aft CG. That was the basis for one of my most vivid skydiving memories.. What, you don't like VMC roll-overs in King Airs when the DZO decides to let the tandems out early on their own pass, he throttles the left engine back, everyone makes room for them in the back... That was the most exciting plane ride I had at that DZ. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
