WTF Microsoft?

[theonlyski 8]

Why make the coding so damn difficult to do simple shit.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ff381409(v=VS.85).aspx

This is the code for a simple, empty window:

#ifndef UNICODE

#define UNICODE

#endif 


#include 


LRESULT CALLBACK WindowProc(HWND hwnd, UINT uMsg, WPARAM wParam, LPARAM lParam);


int WINAPI wWinMain(HINSTANCE hInstance, HINSTANCE, PWSTR pCmdLine, int nCmdShow)

{

// Register the window class.

const wchar_t CLASS_NAME[]  = L"Sample Window Class";


WNDCLASS wc = { };


wc.lpfnWndProc   = WindowProc;

wc.hInstance     = hInstance;

wc.lpszClassName = CLASS_NAME;


RegisterClass(&wc);


// Create the window.


HWND hwnd = CreateWindowEx(

0,                              // Optional window styles.

CLASS_NAME,                     // Window class

L"Learn to Program Windows",    // Window text

WS_OVERLAPPEDWINDOW,            // Window style


// Size and position

CW_USEDEFAULT, CW_USEDEFAULT, CW_USEDEFAULT, CW_USEDEFAULT,


NULL,       // Parent window    

NULL,       // Menu

hInstance,  // Instance handle

NULL        // Additional application data

);


if (hwnd == NULL)

{

return 0;

}


ShowWindow(hwnd, nCmdShow);


// Run the message loop.


MSG msg = { };

while (GetMessage(&msg, NULL, 0, 0))

{

TranslateMessage(&msg);

DispatchMessage(&msg);

}


return 0;

}


LRESULT CALLBACK WindowProc(HWND hwnd, UINT uMsg, WPARAM wParam, LPARAM lParam)

{

switch (uMsg)

{

case WM_DESTROY:

PostQuitMessage(0);

return 0;


case WM_PAINT:

{

PAINTSTRUCT ps;

HDC hdc = BeginPaint(hwnd, &ps);


FillRect(hdc, &ps.rcPaint, (HBRUSH) (COLOR_WINDOW+1));


EndPaint(hwnd, &ps);

}

return 0;


}

return DefWindowProc(hwnd, uMsg, wParam, lParam);

}

I mean, WTF? I can do the SAME thing with AutoIT by doing something like:

MsgBox(0, "Learn to Program Windows")

I dont see why they have to make everything so damn difficult.

Ofcourse, the last time I coded C++ was Borland C++, and it was a DOS based app.

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Ofcourse, the last time I coded C++ was Borland C++, and it was a DOS based app.

That might have something to do with it. Definitely more complicated though.

I wish Google Maps had an "Avoid Ghetto" routing option.

[theonlyski 8]

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Ofcourse, the last time I coded C++ was Borland C++, and it was a DOS based app.

That might have something to do with it. Definitely more complicated though.

That was the last time I coded C++ I've written other apps for Windows since then, just figured I should learn how to do MS Visual stuff... didn't realize it takes 50 lines of code to put up an empty window.

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I dont see why they have to make everything so damn difficult.

There are a lot of fascinating things that you can do
with computers. However, in the real world, the goal is to get one to perform a function in a clear and cost-effective fashion.

That is why computers use high-level languages instead of assembler. 85% of coding dollars are spent on maintenance of existing systems, not primary development.

To this day, I love Basic. Easy to code and maintain.

[theonlyski 8]

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To this day, I love Basic. Easy to code and maintain.

+1

I learned how to program on an Apple IIe using 10 lines

10 Print Hello.

Ahh, the good old days.

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To this day, I love Basic. Easy to code and maintain.

+1

I learned how to program on an Apple IIe using 10 lines

10 Print Hello.

Ahh, the good old days.

I started using it on machines that no longer exist.
"IF A = B" is a lot better than whatever garble that C uses. I still think C was a practical joke of some sort.

I use VB for quick stuff in Excel, and sometimes Access. One of the more popular QA products uses VB also.

[theonlyski 8]

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To this day, I love Basic. Easy to code and maintain.

+1

I learned how to program on an Apple IIe using 10 lines

10 Print Hello.

Ahh, the good old days.

I started using it on machines that no longer exist.
"IF A = B" is a lot better than whatever garble that C uses. I still think C was a practical joke of some sort.

I use VB for quick stuff in Excel, and sometimes Access. One of the more popular QA products uses VB also.

Yeah, I think I might go to VB, I dont really like how C++ has their structure set up.

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[Gators1240 9]

I've worked with both and a lot of people would call me crazy but unless you are programming something extremely in depth I.e. Video games or something physics based then I would go vb all the way. It's easier to program, easier to maintain, manages memory automatically, and with the added control of adding pre-coded controls it's a no brainer.

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Yeah, I think I might go to VB, I dont really like how C++ has their structure set up.

C++ had two basic goals. It was supposed to provide
a higher level language based on C. It wasn't supposed to have
all the stupid memory leaks that would lock the operating system.

"They're not record layouts, they're structures."
Oh, look, a new word for the same thing.

[theonlyski 8]

MS has regained some of my loyalty. Office 2010 Pro Plus for $10 bucks.

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[normiss 800]

And yet Open Office is free.
Huh.

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And yet Open Office is free.
Huh.

Yeah, it is. Whats your point? $10 bucks...

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[normiss 800]

$10 is two good beers.
Almost a skydive.

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$10 is two good beers.
Almost a skydive.

Seeing as I can't drink alcohol here, and no DZ around for many, many miles... rules those two out.

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[normiss 800]

Safe to guess no table dance either?

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Safe to guess no table dance either?

You would be correct.

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[PhreeZone 20]

Where did you find that deal at?

Yesterday is history
And tomorrow is a mystery

Parachutemanuals.com

[normiss 800]

Ten dollars!

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Where did you find that deal at?

Normiss is right, got it via the army HUP. I'd give details, but you need a .mil email address to get it.

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[Gators1240 9]

I actually completely forgot about that, gotta get myself a new copy now