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Howdy.

I may be just an ill-informed kid in Utah (sorry long story) but this makes no sense to me..."Corliss's immodest proposal: Skip the parachute. Cut the umbilical and achieve one of mankind's most ancient and enticing dreams—unpowered human flight, no external contraption required." Hmmmmm........ I could look up the definition of external contraption but I am going to go out on a limb but I think a "Wingsuit" would suffice. Hell anyone that has ever swam in any sort of water has experienced "Flight". You could be completely naked and experience flight by tracking. Hell in freefall you are generating some sort of lift at altitude because your body displaces air. I could get into this a lot more and apologize for my rant but shit like this really pisses me off. I do not know this person, and I may very well have made a huge mistake posting this, but I feel the commercialization of falling through the sky has become too much. Hell its not the fall its that sudden stop that will mess ya up.

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Howdy.

I may be just an ill-informed kid in Utah (sorry long story) but this makes no sense to me..."Corliss's immodest proposal: Skip the parachute. Cut the umbilical and achieve one of mankind's most ancient and enticing dreams—unpowered human flight, no external contraption required." Hmmmmm........ I could look up the definition of external contraption but I am going to go out on a limb but I think a "Wingsuit" would suffice. Hell anyone that has ever swam in any sort of water has experienced "Flight". You could be completely naked and experience flight by tracking. Hell in freefall you are generating some sort of lift at altitude because your body displaces air. I could get into this a lot more and apologize for my rant but shit like this really pisses me off. I do not know this person, and I may very well have made a huge mistake posting this, but I feel the commercialization of falling through the sky has become too much. Hell its not the fall its that sudden stop that will mess ya up.

Word Turd,
Kyle



I wouldn't worry too much about it. It's a great story for the press and occasionally gets him a booking on a show for publicity purposes, but it's not going to actually happen.

People can say what they want to about Jeb, but he's anything but an idiot and he's not about to try it unless it's going to work and the only plan he's ever come up with would cost over a million dollars in construction costs. He's never going to find anyone, not even Red Bull, to put up that kind of cash. Even at that, I'm not 100 percent convinced he'd go through with it once he started really testing out how accurately he could fly on to the ramp.

He's done some impressive needle threading in Europe, but we're talking at least another order of magnitude tighter tolerances before even attempting his first approach. At the speeds we're talking about the smallest mistake would be a fatality.
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ok so what kinda numbers are you REALLY looking at? i mean how slow of a vertical fall rate can you achieve, and with what forward speed?
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ok so what kinda numbers are you REALLY looking at? i mean how slow of a vertical fall rate can you achieve, and with what forward speed?



Understand that it's NEVER going to be low enough to simply land a wingsuit on your belly.

What Jeb is proposing is a sort of funnel, maybe 300 foot tall, that he flies into. As the funnel gets closer to the ground it becomes more narrow and curves toward the horizon. If you think of a 300 foot long cornucopia, you have the basic idea.

It's definitely not "landing" any normal sense of the word, but using the word landing sure does stir up a shit load of press.
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yeah i assumed that you would never be able to slide in face first, haha. but i understand what youre saying. i dont now if its possible to do and walk away from. there too many variables, id think, but then again, im about as far from an expert in wingsuit flying as anyone, but i do have a basic understanding and grasp of gravity and pysics, lol. if he actually tries it, i wish him the best of luck and hope he makes it.
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Landing procedure: Hand all the way up, Feet and Knees Together and PLF soon as you get bitch slapped by a planet.

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Hi Paul,

This whole thing sort of reminds me of Evel Knievel and his boast that he would jump the Grand Canyon. When he made the boast he was referring to a motorcycle jump. It eventually became some kind of 'rocket.' But then of course he activated the parachute at launch and just drifted on down.

He did make a lot of $$$$ on it, though. :P

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But I wouldn't pick on Jeb in particular too much though. At least half a dozen other people have said they've planned to to land a wingsuit or make a jump from space lately. Some of them got sponsor money one way or another. Nobody has done either yet.

Money to pull off these sorts of stunts is pretty hard to come by and it requires quite a bit of experience to have the cred just to say you're going to attempt it. Well, credible cred anyway, there have been a couple of nut cases that never stood a chance of even raising a little bit of the cash required.
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In theory it would work!
It's no different than sky jumping. And those guys easily go as fas as him and fall at the same rate and they do it well.
The issue is the lack of landing gear! He needs to develop some sort of skid plate to protect his face and neck.
Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay.

The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools!

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There ya go shah, have you applied to be on the design team?


It would be a fun project.
The key would be to determine his best glide slope and go from there.
But as I said, it could be done....if he doesn't snap his neck.
Remember ski jumpers land on their feet and burn up their speed using their skies not their face.
Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay.

The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools!

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In theory it would work!
It's no different than sky jumping. And those guys easily go as fas as him and fall at the same rate and they do it well.
The issue is the lack of landing gear! He needs to develop some sort of skid plate to protect his face and neck.



Which would technically make it an aircraft, and not landing a wingsuit...[:/]

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Every great achievement had a naysayer who said it couldn't be done.

I feel sorry for those who think it can't be done. Their brain is limited to doing things the way they have always been done. I think they are too dumb to think for themselves. Followers. Losers if you ask me.:|

Someone will successfully land a wing suit someday.



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Do you remember that nutty French dude with the roller blade wheels on hit chest and knees?
something like that would work rather well.
But he will NEED some sort of head and neck protection.
Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay.

The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools!

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I feel sorry for those who think it can't be done. :|



The question for me is not whether it can be done, but what happens after it has been? We already have a perfectly good means of getting wingsuiters safely back to earth. It's affordable, it's portable - hell, it's wearable - and it's been proven to work over many thousands of jumps.

If you want to prove that someone can survive a landing without a parachute, it's already been done, multiple times, by accident.

I wish Mr Corliss well and I certainly hope he doesn't hurt himself attempting this - but I can't see it as a game-changing event in any way.

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Remember ski jumpers land on their feet and burn up their speed using their skies not their face.



Here we go again . . . you might wanna do a search on that topic here. This topic of actually landing a wingsuit has been debated nearly endlessly since the inception of this web site. This includes just about every conceivable variation on the theme including landing on a ski jump hill.

At least seven years ago people were saying it was imminent. It's no more imminent today than it was then, the numbers just don't work out in favor of it happening ever either.
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No I agree with you it won't be easy.
And you can't compare it to ski jumping.
Due to the equipment. I was just saying, it's easier to scrub off speed with one skies then with ones face.
FYI what's the COF of nipples?
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