scydyv 0 #1 April 14, 2005 just want to get a general opinion on wing loadings, most importantly what is rated as radical and what is not. I jump a pilot 150 and wing loading has worked out to be 1:3 is that classed as radical - taking a chance or cool it or do we generally keep it on or under 1:2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #2 April 14, 2005 Quotejust want to get a general opinion on wing loadings, most importantly what is rated as radical and what is not. I jump a pilot 150 and wing loading has worked out to be 1:3 is that classed as radical - taking a chance or cool it or do we generally keep it on or under 1:2 That would depend on how many jumps you have, how current you are and things like that. SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelel01 1 #3 April 14, 2005 Is that supposed to be 1.3:1? Just checking on this math. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #4 April 14, 2005 If you fill out some of the information in your profile it would help. Real Name: No name entered. Email: No email entered. Jump Profile Home DZ: No home dropzone entered. Gear Container: No container entered. Main Canopy: No main entered. Reserve Canopy: No reserve entered. AAD: No AAD entered. SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
panzwami 0 #5 April 14, 2005 There are a ton of threads dealing with wingloading and skill levels. Try searching. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scydyv 0 #6 April 14, 2005 at the moment Jumps : 200 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixlpr 0 #7 April 14, 2005 Hm. I have about the same. You should at least respect it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scydyv 0 #8 April 14, 2005 well repect is the game ! Ta for the input guys... just have to watch the weight fromhere Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Conquest150 0 #9 April 14, 2005 any wingload can be considered radical really. its just a matter of how you fly your canopy. i fly a canopy wiht a wingload of just over 1.3:1 and ive got over 500 jumps. i can swoop that thing just about as far as any one on my dropzone. we dont have that many big time swoopers though. but like i said its really jsut a matter of how you fly the canopy. but still beware cuase it can hurt you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FrogNog 1 #10 April 14, 2005 Some of the suggested formula data in prior posts would indicate a 150 loaded at 1.3lb/sf "should" not be jumped by someone with less than 400 jumps experience - one hundred jumps for each .1 pound per square feet over 1:1, plus an extra one hundred jumps for the canopy being a 150. (Actually, I can't recall if the "short lines penalty" applies to a 150 sf canopy or canopies below 150 sf.) As to whether you are taking a chance, we are all taking chances. What could most people here say about whether your equipment and your skills represent "too much" of a risk? -=-=-=-=- Pull. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Travman 6 #11 April 14, 2005 What do your instructors say about it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrewEckhardt 0 #12 April 14, 2005 Quotejust want to get a general opinion on wing loadings, most importantly what is rated as radical and what is not. I jump a pilot 150 and wing loading has worked out to be 1:3 is that classed as radical - taking a chance or cool it or do we generally keep it on or under 1:2 Brian Germain designs parachutes, teaches canopy flight, and has piles more experience than most of us probably including your instructors. He has a WNE Wing loading Never Exceed forumula: Never exceed 1.0 pounds/square foot, + .1 /100 jumps (rounding down), - .2 for canopies under 150 square feet, -.1 for every 1000 feet of density altitude. 200 jumps lets you have a 1.3 wing loading when jumping under standard conditions at sea level. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #13 April 15, 2005 Here is Brian's chart. QuoteWing loading / Number of Jumps 1.0 / <100 1.1 / 100-199 1.2 / 200-299 1.3 / 300-399 1.4 / 400-499 1.5 / 500-599 1.6 / 600-699 1.7 / 700-799 1.8 / 800-899 1.9 / 900-999 2.0 / 1000+ Subtract at least one point for every 2000feet of elevation or density altitude above mean see level If you fly in a location that often experiences conditions of low air pressure due to high temperature and humidity, you should reduce the WNE by at least one point. Subtract two points for canopies under150 square feet. SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
70sdiver 0 #14 April 15, 2005 ok so at 75 jumps a triathalon at 1.08.im jumpin a falcon 300 now and am looking at a triathalon 260 .Been trying to find some one thats jumped them i searched the post but dont find to much on there flight charachteristics. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gemini 0 #15 April 15, 2005 Bored at the DZ one rainy day and came up with wingloading risk calculators. The second was created from a Parachutist article several years ago. Not everyone will agree with the results because they are pretty conservative. This is only two pages out of my DZ Utilities file. Hope this helps. Blues. Blue skies, Jim Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixlpr 0 #16 April 15, 2005 This excel stuff is B.A.D. Bad As Designed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites