thrillisgone25 0 #1 April 21, 2005 Has anyone had any expirience with the Vigil? Any pros/cons to the Cypress? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
firstime 0 #2 April 21, 2005 there are tons of posts on this, do a search Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonto 1 #3 April 21, 2005 I've used Cypreses for 12 years. I used a Vigil in a spare, spare rig last year. Both my Cypres 1's "retire" this year. I'll be replacing them with Vigils. tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slotperfect 7 #4 April 21, 2005 Search results Happy reading! Arrive Safely John Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redknight 0 #5 April 25, 2005 As "firstime" said, there are tons of posts on this subject. Visit the website : www.vigil.aero And/or search in "Forum" for "VIGIL" I used a "cypres1" from 1992 to 2004 Had to be replaced after 12 years Since then I'm using VIGIL NO regrets Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #6 October 6, 2005 Are any schools using Vigils? How are they holding up to being abused by students? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mostly_Harmless 0 #7 October 6, 2005 SDLI is using them on some of there tandems. I have a vigil installed on my rig. 20 year life span, no routine maintenance, the battery can be replaced by your rigger (I believe), great little unit. The vigil was recommended to me by my rigger and art from the skydive store._________________________________________ www.myspace.com/termvelocity Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #8 October 6, 2005 Quote I have a vigil installed on my rig. 20 year life span, no routine maintenance, So far the unit isn't old enough to have skipped a 4 year type cycle. We'll see how it ends up. If lots of units start failing their self check at year X, they may change up. I believe Hollister is using them on at least some rigs, though the ones I rented were Cypres. Last year a vigil save was reported here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jurgencamps 0 #9 October 7, 2005 Texel, Netherlands. PCV, Belgium Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
packing_jarrett 0 #10 October 9, 2005 A friend of mine just got a vigil and put about 200 jumps on it. Just today it wouldn't turn on. He asked me to come and look at it and with much trying I finally got it to turn on. it said it was set for pro and ready to go. My friend and I did a 2 way and we broke off and he had a aad fire at 2500 as he was pulling his pilot chute!!! luckily he slowed down enough so it didn't open but still. sending it to the factory to get that free cutter replacment and to see whats wrong with it.Na' Cho' Cheese Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chutem 0 #11 October 9, 2005 I don't understand how he could slow down enough so it didn't open if he had an aad fire. Are you saying that the cutter failed to cut the reserve closeing loop? James Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nate_1979 9 #12 October 9, 2005 after reading that a few times I think (and am probably wrong) he probably had a fire and slowed down enough to not deploy the main? Even that seems kinda odd though... FGF #??? I miss the sky... There are 10 types of people in the world... those who understand binary and those who don't. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chutem 0 #13 October 9, 2005 I think I understand, slowed enough from res. opening that main pilot chute did not open main container? James Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nate_1979 9 #14 October 9, 2005 QuoteI think I understand, slowed enough from res. opening that main pilot chute did not open main container? James That's what I got out of what he posted But who knows.. I look forward to more details... FGF #??? I miss the sky... There are 10 types of people in the world... those who understand binary and those who don't. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
packing_jarrett 0 #15 October 10, 2005 when I say "he slowed down" i mean his vigil had fired, and he had a reserve. then you would ask why did he pull the pilot chute...? well he thought he had horse shoe malf. so he pulled. but when he looked up and saw the reserve he started pulling in his pilot chute(the pilot chute didn't deploy the main) Hope that cleared the confusion. this is hard to put into words.Na' Cho' Cheese Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverton 0 #16 October 10, 2005 QuoteA friend of mine just got a vigil and put about 200 jumps on it. Just today it wouldn't turn on. He asked me to come and look at it and with much trying I finally got it to turn on. it said it was set for pro and ready to go. My friend and I did a 2 way and we broke off and he had a aad fire at 2500 as he was pulling his pilot chute!!! luckily he slowed down enough so it didn't open but still. sending it to the factory to get that free cutter replacment and to see whats wrong with it. But a sceduled check-up each 4-years is still not required! ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Using your droque to gain stability is a bad habit, Especially when you are jumping a sport rig Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Freeflysmiley 2 #17 October 10, 2005 I'm sure in time the Vigil will be a nice bit of kit. But 3 misfires that I've heard of... I'll let other people break it in for a few years before I change my Cypres2.-------------------------------------------------- Practise the 6 P's! -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tso-d_chris 0 #18 October 10, 2005 QuoteA friend of mine just got a vigil and put about 200 jumps on it. Just today it wouldn't turn on. He asked me to come and look at it and with much trying I finally got it to turn on. it said it was set for pro and ready to go. My friend and I did a 2 way and we broke off and he had a aad fire at 2500 as he was pulling his pilot chute!!! luckily he slowed down enough so it didn't open but still. sending it to the factory to get that free cutter replacment and to see whats wrong with it Let us know what the manufacturer says. It sounds as though the unit was inadvertently set to tandem mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
packing_jarrett 0 #19 October 10, 2005 yes thats what we think too.Na' Cho' Cheese Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HSPScott 0 #20 October 12, 2005 Just remember that Cypres had problems when they started. Back then there wasn't the www to spread the info as fast. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NickDG 23 #21 October 12, 2005 Yes there was a net back then. Type Cypres, (or Cypress as some couldn't spell it) into this search box and you'll get many Cypres related posts from the early nineties. http://www.recskydiving.org/search.asp NickD BASE 194 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #22 October 12, 2005 QuoteYes there was a net back then. Type Cypres, (or Cypress as some couldn't spell it) into this search box and you'll get many Cypres related posts from the early nineties. http://www.recskydiving.org/search.asp USENET existed, but a much smaller population had access to it. Services like prodigy, msn, aol didn't join the internet for a few more years. It was glorious! Figure 94 or 95 for the birth of www. And perhaps 2000 or beyond for useful searching. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mattias 0 #23 October 12, 2005 There were good reasons why two countries didn't certify the vigil and I know one of them have not done so yet. I would find out why if I were you._______________________________________ What goes up, must come down... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mattjw916 2 #24 October 12, 2005 Care to share them? NSCR-2376, SCR-15080 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matthewcline 0 #25 October 13, 2005 1 reason it was Germany. Once the "protection of territory" was legally worked through then Germany didn't object any more. Skydiving ran a good article on the Vigil. We will hear the same baseless complaints when the ARGUS AAD is released to the public.An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
