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But there is such a thing as fighting words; to utter them is a reason to beat them to put a stop to it or prevent what was proposed.


No there's not, that's just a brutes excuse for being physically violent. if there is not a danger of harm being caused then there is no excuse for assault.
Violence as self defense is a different matter.
violence because someone spoke words you dont like is bullshit
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Maybe not in your backassward country but here in the States it's a real thing. Ask the supreme court. :P

http://www.freedomforum.org/templates/document.asp?documentID=13718


OK i read that, and i could not find anywhere that stated physical violence against words was acceptable
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what am I? An encyclopedia? I got you started go search on your own. I'm tired and I really don't care about fighting words right now. ;)


I dont need to search:D:D
I'm not the one that has a problem with my assertion;):ph34r::ph34r:
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Right but you get my point. There are women out there who can throw a punch harder than most men can. Under traditional school of thought it's still not ok to hit them back since they are a woman. If they can hit harder than you I propose the question 'why not?' why is it not ok to punch back?


That's a WAY different question to the OP.
If you are defending yourself, then yes physical force can be used, if said force is merely holding her to prevent her from hitting you again that's all that should be used.
If holding her is not an option and you defend yourself as best you can and hope she doesn't beat your arse into submission:ph34r:
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It's like those obnoxious smart mouth punks that give
you crap until you hit them. Then they whine about, "I was only kidding... Just words."

Somehow, there is a rule that says you can't hit weaker
people, but they are allowed to harass you without end.

Women are generally smaller and weaker, so they
get treated like weak men.

If you say something and they hit you, the rule still applies.

So, the reason is, society isn't just.

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But there is such a thing as fighting words; to utter them is a reason to beat them to put a stop to it or prevent what was proposed.


No there's not, that's just a brutes excuse for being physically violent. if there is not a danger of harm being caused then there is no excuse for assault.
Violence as self defense is a different matter.
violence because someone spoke words you dont like is bullshit



You are most definitely wrong,if you thought about it instead of reacting you would have come to the proper conclusion.

If a person says they are going to rape your wife, you have the right to put a stop to it BEFORE anything happens to her.

If someone says they are GOING TO KILL YOU, they have it coming.

There are quite a few things that can be said that are a green light to being physically harmed, enough to stop or subdue.

The courts have decided on this and if you really think hard, you will see that they are correct.

http://www.freedomforum.org/packages/first/fightingwords/casesummaries.htm

Just because you can't stand me does not mean that you are correct.

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sorry for the late response, I was at the DZ

Society in general says it is acceptable for a woman to hit a man(that doesn't make it right), it's unacceptable for a man to hit a woman. This issue (to me) goes deeper than a simple question,,, why is this??

30 years ago when I was in high school the cops were there maybe 2-3 times a year, disputes and scores were settled one on one with fists and bootheels and the only guns out there was at the gun range and out during hunting season, back then that was acceptable to society,,,, today it seems to be acceptable to society to have full time police officers in high schools every day to curb youth violence,,, disputes and scores are settled 2,3,,4 on 1 with guns and knives and and the level of gun violence (in Canada ) has peaked. My point is that over time what society deems as acceptable and unacceptable behavior has caused an increase in crime and violence on our streets and has a negative impact and negative consequences as a whole. Every time society transitions unacceptable behavior to being acceptable the consequences are felt by everyone.

So how does society bring equality to this topic?? Does society make it acceptable then for a man to hit a woman just like it is acceptable for a woman to hit a man, or do we make it unacceptable for a woman to hit a man and level the playing field.??

Sexual violence whether perpetrated by a man or a woman is still violence,,,,,some men may find it cool to be sexually assaulted by a woman, the coolness would certainly change to outrage if the woman should happen to be HIV +, have a superbug STD that's resillient to modern antibiotics or active herpes virus and the male victim is infected by one or more of these.

Just my thoughts, I may be completely off base in left field or my ramblings may make some sense.

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Hey, why doncha pop Jeannie in the mouth ?
I bet you get your ass kicked. I'll buy a ticket to watch.



:ph34r:

Like I said.. it REALLLY looks bad to all his buddies.:ph34r:


I used to date a blonde who was a near-ringer for body-builder Cory Everson.
She liked to work out with her father's weight set.
She also had some judo training.

One night she and some girl friends went to a night club.
Every time she went to the ladies room she had to pass by a table full of guys,
one of which kept coming on to her in a very obnoxious way.
Finally, as she was passing by, he stood up and got in her way.
As she slipped around him, he grabbed her ass.
She gave him a judo hip throw, leaving him flat on his back on the floor.
His buddies were falling out of their chairs with laughter.:D
"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

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You are most definitely wrong,if you thought about it instead of reacting you would have come to the proper conclusion.

If a person says they are going to rape your wife, you have the right to put a stop to it BEFORE anything happens to her.

If someone says they are GOING TO KILL YOU, they have it coming.

There are quite a few things that can be said that are a green light to being physically harmed, enough to stop or subdue.

The courts have decided on this and if you really think hard, you will see that they are correct.

http://www.freedomforum.org/packages/first/fightingwords/casesummaries.htm

Just because you can't stand me does not mean that you are correct.


Dude instead of you reacting to MY post why not try READING it, i have agreed that the threat of violence is just cause for physical DEFENSE. did you not read that part or are you just being intentionally illiterate:S
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Once again, you are wrong in your assertion and yet you ASSume to tell me and everyone else I am wrong.

Try reading for a change.

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Legal Basis for Decision: The Court noted that the right of free speech is not absolute at all times and under all circumstances. There are certain "well-defined and narrowly limited" classes of speech that can be proscribed and regulated without constitutional problem. These include the "lewd and obscene, the profane, the libelous, and the insulting or 'fighting words'." The Court defined fighting words as those words that "by their very utterance inflict injury or tend to incite an immediate breach of the peace." Fighting words are excluded, the Court reasoned, because any benefit derived from their utterance is outweighed by the social interest in order and morality. The Court determined that the statute was constitutional. Finding that the epithets uttered by Chaplinsky were likely to provoke the average person to retaliation and thereby cause a breach of the peace, the Court ruled that Mr. Chaplinsky's words were unprotectable fighting words.
Quotable: "There are certain well-defined and narrowly limited classes of speech, the prevention and punishment of which have never been thought to raise any constitutional problem. These include the lewd and obscene, the profane, the libelous, and the insulting or 'fighting' words - those which by their very utterance inflict injury or tend to incite an immediate breach of the peace. It has been well observed that such utterances are no essential part of any exposition of ideas, and are of such slight social value as a step to truth that any benefit that may be derived from them is clearly outweighed by the social interest in order and morality."
Writing for the Majority: Justice Murphy



I can cite much more, but you won't read it.:|

Because if you had bothered in the first place you would have refrained from comment.

Like I said before, because I posted it does not make it wrong.

Quit while you are behind.;):D:D:D

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What about in Lucky's example? Was that not ok for her brother to do what he did? What if that took place today with the following scenario: This is a little bit of a stretch but what if it was a chick saying she dyked it out with lucky at some party? (we'll pretend she WOULDN'T like that rumor :P) is it then not ok for her brother to handle it still? and the way he did back then? Since it's another girl does it have to be her handling it?



In that scenario Lucky and her friends would tease the girl continuously and call her a fat whore until she developed a complex and an eating disorder: the standard high school girl response. ;)
Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting
If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh.

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that page was posted earlier by Skitz i read it then and commented THEN, now where does it say that physical violence is an acceptable answer to words you dont like.
I'm so sorry that you seem unable to grasp that but it's neither my problem nor my concern.
You have done similar in other threads, where you fail to acknowledge somthing i have already posted and continue with your rant that i am wrong.

Inciting a crowd is basically saying if you are clever enough to piss a lot of people off you can be held accountable for the disturbance.


Kindly point out anywhere in that URL page where is states that is ok to bash someone because they spoke at you?

BTW, I'm done with your lack of comprehension:)
I made new news years resolution, to not waste to much time with people of your ilk:)

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I see that the speech is not constitutionally protected. I don't see (although I realize that it is a very small part of a larger whole) where violent retaliation is permitted.

I think that a cop could issue a disorderly conduct citation to the guy with the big mouth, and his "fighting words" could be prosecuted. Free speech would not be a valid defense.

But popping the dude in the mouth for uttering "fighting words" could still be assault, if there was not a credible, immediate, serious threat of attack.
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I can cite other things that would prove otherwise, unfortunately sqeauk cannot figure that out on his own.

He is intent on proving something, only he does not know what it is.

In the case of fighting words, they can be injurious, therefore a physical stop would be considered self defense.

It has been done before.

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I can cite other things that would prove otherwise, unfortunately sqeauk cannot figure that out on his own.

He is intent on proving something, only he does not know what it is.

In the case of fighting words, they can be injurious, therefore a physical stop would be considered self defense.

It has been done before.

you pick up on one word and base your argument on that:ph34r::ph34r:
you're not very good at debating are you.
Would you please tell me what words i could speak that would be injurous to you?
Words (NOT Threats or aggression), words that would could you harm.

Also please do cite, where it is legally acceptable to cause physical harm to someone because of words they use. that are not implying harm or iminent danger
I PROMISE I'll READ IT:)
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