Flygator 0 #1 January 19, 2010 I finally published this video on you tube for anyone interested in seeing it. Also will be in Phoenix the rest of the week and would like to go jump close by...ideas? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngQMltsW-vw The secret to life is not arriving at the grave in a well preserved body but sliding in sideways completely worn out yelling "holy crap" what a ride!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
d_squared431 0 #2 January 19, 2010 QuoteI finally published this video on you tube for anyone interested in seeing it. Also will be in Phoenix the rest of the week and would like to go jump close by...ideas? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngQMltsW-vwTPM Sister#130ONTIG#1 I love vodka.I love vodka cause it rhymes with Tuaca~LisaH You having a clean thought is like billyvance having a clean post.iluvtofly Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #3 January 19, 2010 So, uh, you going to tell us the story? Was the person under you in your group or another group? I'm assuming you're the guy with the camera - it doesn't appear you tracked at all - why not?"There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swoopfly 7 #4 January 19, 2010 hey thats pretty crazy, dosent seem like there was alot of time inbetween groups. Also i dont understand the hand print on your leg from going through someones canopy can you explain? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gene03 0 #5 January 19, 2010 Shit sure happens fast up there, don't it? Glad you're okay.“The only fool bigger than the person who knows it all is the person who argues with him. Stanislaw Jerzy Lec quotes (Polish writer, poet and satirist 1906-1966) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LongWayToFall 0 #6 January 19, 2010 Damn! 120mph bitch slap Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Halfpastniner 0 #7 January 19, 2010 From the Youtube comments section: QuoteThe guy under me was supposed to turn 180 degrees and track away. I was the base so I was to pull in place. It didn't happen that way but it all worked out in the end. I would up with a broken camera and him a busted chute nad both of us had a little pain...BASE 1384 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkeenan 14 #8 January 19, 2010 Quote...i dont understand the hand print on your leg from going through someones canopy can you explain? Apparently, there was a person hanging under the other canopy and he hit their hand._____________________________________ Dude, you are so awesome... Can I be on your ash jump ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #9 January 19, 2010 Your title has grammatical errors. You should change it... From: "Skydiving in freefall going through another skydiver canopy and both lived!" To: "Skydiver in freefall goes through another skydiver's canopy, and both lived!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #10 January 19, 2010 Was the guy hit, the one in front of the camera most of the time? He didn't track at all, and also looked VERY low time! he was havin a hell of a time staying in one place , even looked to be back sliding, when he shoudl have tracked! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #11 January 19, 2010 BTW, I have well over 3000 video jumps, and still tell any New group, and some old ones, The Middle is mine, and I do not pull high! soem assclown fugure the camera is going to dump at tracking time, so they can dick aroudn and do flips...WRONG...what if the cameraperson malfunctions? they need the middle all the way down! (Lesson taught to me curtesy of Steve Scott, one Very respect camerman!) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wrightskyguy 1 #12 January 20, 2010 Briefing that you are going to pull in place is all well and good, but that doesn't relieve you of the responsibility of being aware and looking around. From the video, it looked to me that the guy with the camera never looked anywhere but at one guy tracking away. That was some scary shit! John Wright World's most beloved skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flygator 0 #13 January 20, 2010 So the guy's canopy I went through fell out of the group earlier but didn't track away. I was the base and was supposed to pull in place as planned. It didn't work that way. By the time I waved off it was too late to do anything. I glanced down and bam! The secret to life is not arriving at the grave in a well preserved body but sliding in sideways completely worn out yelling "holy crap" what a ride!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flygator 0 #14 January 20, 2010 Actually I had the camera and I went thru his canopy and struck his shoulder (left hand) and leg (right hand) as I was trying to push to the right and get out of his way. If not, his head would have drove through my chest. The secret to life is not arriving at the grave in a well preserved body but sliding in sideways completely worn out yelling "holy crap" what a ride!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #15 January 20, 2010 Question is...DID EVERYONE learn? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #16 January 20, 2010 BTW, thanks for sharing a veryy unique clip.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flygator 0 #17 January 20, 2010 UH HUH! The secret to life is not arriving at the grave in a well preserved body but sliding in sideways completely worn out yelling "holy crap" what a ride!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flygator 0 #18 January 20, 2010 Your welcome. Don't want to do another video like that one... The secret to life is not arriving at the grave in a well preserved body but sliding in sideways completely worn out yelling "holy crap" what a ride!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flygator 0 #19 January 20, 2010 changed, thanks! The secret to life is not arriving at the grave in a well preserved body but sliding in sideways completely worn out yelling "holy crap" what a ride!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #20 January 20, 2010 Quotehey thats pretty crazy, dosent seem like there was alot of time inbetween groups. Also i dont understand the hand print on your leg from going through someones canopy can you explain? I think the hand print is on the lower guy maybe?Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ridestrong 1 #21 January 20, 2010 Shit that's crazy!!!!!!!! I can't believe the guy that fell out of the group didn't track away. Also I don't know if those first number of jumpers were doing a tracking dive or planning a group, but if they weren't planning on staying together there was no separation. Wow... glad you guys are ok.*I am not afraid of dying... I am afraid of missing life.* ----Disclaimer: I don't know shit about skydiving.---- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The_Don 0 #22 January 20, 2010 Quote Briefing that you are going to pull in place is all well and good, but that doesn't relieve you of the responsibility of being aware and looking around. From the video, it looked to me that the guy with the camera never looked anywhere but at one guy tracking away. That was some scary shit! My take on it too. Look everywhere, that includes down. I am NOT being loud. I'm being enthusiastic! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #23 January 20, 2010 Quote So the guy's canopy I went through fell out of the group earlier but didn't track away. Same thing almost happened to me once; At breakoff I looked down just in time to see a pilot chute coming at me. I went into the hardest track I could, and I think I my toes missed the inflating canopy by ~4 feet."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davelepka 4 #24 January 20, 2010 QuoteSo the guy's canopy I went through fell out of the group earlier but didn't track away. This is where you have the responsibility as a camera flyer to recognize that there is as jumper missing, and to locate that jumper before you continue to shoot a video. If you're a good camera flyer, you can do this while continuing to film the others. If you're not as good, you have to look away from the other and locate the missing jumper. You may claim that you were not acting as a camera flyer on that jump, but when you filmed the other jumper tracking away, and never took him out of frame, that makes you a camera flyer. If you were not wearing a camera, you wouldn't have just stared at the guy tracking, you would have been involved with your own situation. Once you make filming another jumper your own situaiton, you take on the roll of camera flyer, as well as the responsibility (see above). QuoteI was the base and was supposed to pull in place as planned. Then you should have pulled. As it was, you clearly just sat there, falling as others tracked away. Once the others in your group have departed and are tracking away from you, this is the time to clear the air above you and pull. If you pull while the others are still tracking, you will be open higher then them and will have no risk of a canopy collision (canopy to canopy). Additionally, the other jumpers, who will be opening 500ft (or more) below you, will have a reduced risk of a canopy collision because you will not be opening your canopy down at their level. It's a win/win. You have to dump as soon as you are clear. This incident is a prime example of a camera creating a distraction. You may or may not think so, but you never would have followed that same course of action without a camera on your head. You would have never just sat there in freefall staring at another jumper tracking away, only to look where you are going at the last second. That jumper was under you in freefall, waving off, and deploying long before you saw him. If you had been paying attention to your surroudings, you would have had ample time to spot him much earlier in the skydive. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hcsvader 1 #25 January 20, 2010 Someone should post some video of the paranoid cameraman after breakoff.Have you seen my pants? it"s a rough life, Livin' the dream >:) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites