warpedskydiver 0 #26 January 15, 2010 I could see it the flywheel was cracked or if there were teeth missing, but other than that it will not need to be replaced At worst it needs to be machined if there is any warping (doubtful) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ketia0 0 #27 January 15, 2010 The only reason i was replacing it, was because I was told it couldnt be machined due to it being dual mass. If you run the VIN numbers, it comes up with a 23 spline clutch. Thats what everyone is showing. But the 23 wont fit in Ford, only 26. I have called soooo many people. I called the local Ford dealership and they didnt have it. But he said that his screen showed one left in the US. And it was in Dallas.. About 5 hours away. I called them, and they said theres was all 23 spline. I am sooo glad I didnt make that drive! My buddy Zeke works for a Ford dealership here, and he said he ran the VIN numbers and all they are coming up with are 23 spline. Thats the crazy part!!! I talked to the people that was listed about 4 or 5 post up. He said he MAY be able to redo the clutch and pressure plate. But I have to mail it to him. So im probably going to be doing that next week. Thanks for all of ya'lls help!! This is really getting frustrating!!! "In this game you can't predict the future. You just have to play the odds. "-JohnMitchell Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeNReN 0 #28 January 15, 2010 Dont ya just love automotive engineers Well 26 spline or 23 spline...I will bet you that another trans and flywheel from a junked 2002 standard explorer will bolt up to your engine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ketia0 0 #29 January 15, 2010 I dont think it will. talking to both transmission shops, a regular transmission will not line up with it. the bolt pattern is different. It has a specail transmission, clutch assembly, flywheel, and slave cylnder "In this game you can't predict the future. You just have to play the odds. "-JohnMitchell Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #30 January 15, 2010 The engine will be the same though, so when you get the trans and bell housing from the boneyard everything will bolt right up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #31 January 15, 2010 Just cut some holes in the floor for your feet...works for Fred Flintstone. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #32 January 15, 2010 Just like your first car! Hey weren't you Fred Flinstone's driving instructor? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ketia0 0 #33 January 15, 2010 Quote The engine will be the same though, so when you get the trans and bell housing from the boneyard everything will bolt right up. I think its different. they said the mounting bolts are different. "In this game you can't predict the future. You just have to play the odds. "-JohnMitchell Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ketia0 0 #34 January 15, 2010 hey Jim! Long time no see! Hope all is going well!! "In this game you can't predict the future. You just have to play the odds. "-JohnMitchell Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #35 January 15, 2010 That is not what my brother says, the engine will not be different, just the bell housing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeNReN 0 #36 January 15, 2010 QuoteI think its different. they said the mounting bolts are different. I'm gona say this one more time....Ford did NOT go through all the expence to change over a plant to make a different engine block for one run of transmissions. a 2002 4.0l block is a 2002 4.0l block. Edited to add: do yourself a favor...call up a few junkyards and price out a transmission with bell housing, flywheel, slave cyinder and hell toss in a rear mount and crossmember just incase .....only use a junkyard disk and pressure plate if it looks mint. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #37 January 15, 2010 Quote Quote The engine will be the same though, so when you get the trans and bell housing from the boneyard everything will bolt right up. I think its different. they said the mounting bolts are different. Transmission bolts to bellhousing: Bellhousing bolts to engine. As someone previously pointed out, retooling engine blocks is EXPENSIVE, and no company is going to do that if they can avoid it. I'll bet a LOT of money there is nothing special about the bolt pattern on the engine."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #38 January 15, 2010 Hey tooling up for making engine castings plus the actual casting can't be more than what 10 million? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #39 January 15, 2010 Quote Hey tooling up for making engine castings plus the actual casting can't be more than what 10 million? In '82 I bought an almost new 1982 CJ-5 with a 4 cylinder. That engine was the 151cid "Iron Duke" AMC was sourcing from Pontiac. It was only after I bought it and took it out on the highway that I realized how miserably underpowered it was.And to make matters worse, the fools at AMC had not made allowance for the fact the 5spd transmission had an overdrive top gear, so the axle ratios were too long-legged, making 5th gear unusable. I started doing research on engine swaps and was dismayed at the cost of all the adapter kits. Then I started doing some research on the current engine and discovered to my delight that the ole' "Iron Duke" was built to match a small-block Chevy on the backside!No doubt this was to enable using existing bellhousings, clutches, transmissions. So I picked up a 229cid V6 from a wrecked Monte Carlo. (The 229 was a shortened small-block V8). It bolted right up!The most difficult part of the job was building the motor mounts and custom headers. The icing on the cake was that the V6 had a lower-rpm torque peak, so my top gear became usable!"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #40 January 15, 2010 Yep many of those jeeps also got the Olds 3400 it had the best low end torque in it's weight class. They use them in rock crawlers. Fuel injection helps at those angles as well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,371 #41 January 15, 2010 Hi DeN, QuoteFord did NOT go through all the expence to change over a plant to make a different engine block for one run of transmissions. A little story for you on this: It was in the early '70's at a boogie in Spokane, WA. Tom Cannarozzo was jumping a ThunderBow rig & had a malfunction with a cutaway in which he threw away his main ripcord ( yup, that is how we did it in those days ). He was asking if anyone had a spare T-BO main ripcord & I told him to use a XBO ripcord because I was sure that it would fit. He tried it & it fit. I was sure that Security would not make another part for their rigs unless they absolutely had to. Retooling anything is expensive. The bean counters get to over-ride the design engineers usually. JerryBaumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
