College Football - BCS National Championship

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Yep.... Florida better play their A game or it will be another Bama repeat.

No freaking way! Florida is going to roll UC. First of all I think they are going to be pissed off and second UC literally has NO defense. Pitt was there only real game this whole season and if ol' Dave W. would not have abandoned the run Pitt would have beat UC by two touches but he got scared. I feel horrible fr Pitts holder that kid may drink himself to death now.... we should reach out to him and introduce him to skydiving where that is cool and we jump out of planes

I don't see Texas being able to hang.... Bama will continue the passion they had against Fl. and get it done.

P.s. I hate Florida, UC, and Texas.... Bama has never really been on my radar but this season they are a complete football team.... very impressive.

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Has Billy been banned AGAIN ??


Don

"When in doubt I whip it out,
I got me a rock-and-roll band.
It's a free-for-all."

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Has Billy been banned AGAIN ??


Don

You wish!

Nah. My old modem just pretty much gave out. It had been tripping the last couple of weeks and all weekend it would not connect to the internet. I just got a new modem today. I'm giving the old one the good ol' sledgehammer treatment in the morning.

Tell ya what, I didn't even see this blow-out, or total domination, by Alabama over Florida, coming. I thought for sure it would come down to the final drive. I knew Alabama would contend all the way to the end, I just didn't expect Florida to wilt like they did.

But seeing Tim Tebow crying his eyes out at the end.... FUCKING PRICELESS!!!

Goddamn.... if Alabama plays exactly like they did last Saturday at the BCS championship game against Texas, you will see the same result. You saw how Texas struggled against two very good defenses (Oklahoma and Nebraska). My opinion, Texas should have lost to Nebraska. But I'm kind of glad they won. Texas is one of a very short list of teams that Alabama has never beaten in the past (0-7-1), although the last game was the Cotton Bowl after the 1981 season (I think).

I have no idea who's going to win the Heisman Trophy, but Mark Ingram definitely gave himself redemption and a fighting chance after his 189 total yard performance against the nation's #1 defense. Gerhart of Stanford has more yards and TDs, but his team has lost what, 4 games? I know, I know, Tim Tebow lost 4 games the year he won his Heisman, so go figure. He put up ridiculous numbers that year.

However, if I had to make an argument for Ingram, it would be that he had his best performances in all of the big games, except one (Auburn). Still, Alabama hasn't gone undefeated because of him. There are a lot of great players on the Alabama team that made it happen. And even if Ingram had been lost for the year in preseason training, who's to say true freshman Trent Richardson wouldn't have accumulated just as many yards? He's just as good. On the passing game, Alabama has at least 4 proven big time receivers - Julio Jones, Marquis Maze, Darius Hanks and Colin Peek. Not to mention the QB making it all happen - Greg McElroy. Before the season started, I figured Alabama would lose 2 or 3 games, and then contend for the championship next year.

I can't believe that guy is 29 - 0 as a starting QB. That's 16 - 0 his senior year in high school when he won the Texas state championship AND the mythical national high school championship, and 13 - 0 so far this year as a college junior. He broke all of Chase Daniels' high school records (former Missouri QB who is now in the NFL). Trent Richardson broke all of Emmitt Smith's school records (yes, that Emmitt Smith, the NFL's all-time leading rusher). He was spotted at the SEC championship game on the sidelines talking with Tebow.

Last year's Alabama team exceeded all of my preseason expectations, but I knew they had no depth, and kind of expected Florida to win then. This year, I thought because of a mostly new offensive line and new QB, we would have some hiccups along the way, but we've found a way to win every game. A couple of them were downright ugly and dramatic, but even Florida and Texas had theirs too.

I'm sure that Texas will do everything that they can to get ready for Alabama, but I don't think they have played anybody that had a complete team like Alabama's. Oklahoma and Nebraska had great defenses, but suspect offenses, and Texas A&M was the opposite. Alabama has it all. All Alabama has to do is play the way they are capable of, and they'll win.

"Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban

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just a cynical note from the mid-major peanut gallery.

isn't it FUNNY...like fuckin' hilarious...that by some MIRACLE of the BCS that TCU and Boise St. get to play EACH OTHER?!

HA! tell me there were no back room deals going on there to get the big schools out of a potential upset situation should either of those teams actually get to play them. FUCK the BCS and FUCK college football.

strength of schedule my ass.

fuckin' assholes.

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All Alabama has to do is play the way they are capable of, and they'll win.

Well, that could apply to any one of 15 teams or so. I think Bama could play about half-assed (like they did against Auburn and LSU) and still beat Texas. And I don't think Florida wilted, I think Bama just had WAYYYY too much for 'em.

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isn't it FUNNY...like fuckin' hilarious...that by some MIRACLE of the BCS that TCU and Boise St. get to play EACH OTHER?!

Yeah, I'd have to agree with your cynicism. It'll be interesting to see how far the BSU-TCU loser falls in the polls. The powers-that-be don't want 2 mid-majors in the Final Top 5, but they'll have one, and the potential to have 3 in the final Top 10.

It's ridiculous that we don't have a legitimate, unbiased, un-political playoff system, and have to go through this same bullshit every year.


Don

"When in doubt I whip it out,
I got me a rock-and-roll band.
It's a free-for-all."

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And I don't think Florida wilted, I think Bama just had WAYYYY too much for 'em.

I disagree.... we didn't stick to the game plan against Bama. Defense was out of sync possibly due to Dulap being suspended but that's what happens in football. Bama has a great team and wonderful talent but Florida had the experience and talent over Bama. It just goes to show that in this sport, you can lose a game mentaly just as much as you can in talent. Florida's mental game went TILT!!! Regarding Cinny, they could beat Florida too if the Gators aren't in sync and prepare mentaly. This is going to go one of two ways; either the Gators will be charged and pissed off about Bama and ambush Cinny on the field or we are going to TILT again thinking about how they shouldn't have lost against Bama. Either way, you have to respect Bama and how they brought the mix up plays to the field. They have a great coach and I hope that Urban Meyer reflects upon last weeks game for quite some time.

Does anyone else find it funny that we made a SPORT out of an EMERGENCY PROCEDURE?!?!

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Has Billy been banned AGAIN ??

You know Billy, always willing to help close personal pals. Last I heard he was in Nashville peeling stickers off of telephone poles.

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You know Billy, always willing to help close personal pals. Last I heard he was in Nashville peeling stickers off of telephone poles.
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Now THAT is funny!!!!!!!

[Rstanley0312 1]

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just a cynical note from the mid-major peanut gallery.

isn't it FUNNY...like fuckin' hilarious...that by some MIRACLE of the BCS that TCU and Boise St. get to play EACH OTHER?!

HA! tell me there were no back room deals going on there to get the big schools out of a potential upset situation should either of those teams actually get to play them. FUCK the BCS and FUCK college football.

strength of schedule my ass.

fuckin' assholes.

i totally agree..... i don't know if we will ever get a playoff though.... I mean no one else does it. no other sports operate that way........ wait a second... that's right ALL of them do even 1-A football. WTF

SkyChimp.... I agree with you about Fl and how they approach the Cincy game but UC literally has NO D at all. It is horrible! They have yet to see a good D in my opinion so I don't think they have a chance in hell and at that time their coach will probably be signed with ND... what a kick in the nuts but you cannot fault the guy.

One last thing.... I believe Bama is a better team but not by much. I really believe it had nothing to do with the game plan and everything to do with desire. Fl. got stunned the way they stunned O. State in the national title game. jmo

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You know Billy, always willing to help close personal pals. Last I heard he was in Nashville peeling stickers off of telephone poles.
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Now THAT is funny!!!!!!!

I had no idea what Divot was talking about when he texted me to check what he posted out.

Funny as shit!

Hell, I did my part in the Birmingham area 7 to 9 years ago. I ain't wasting my time driving up to Nashville and fucking around with the stickers. Let Nashville Metro Legal sort that shit out. Court case already in progress (well, continued to December 15 anyway).

"Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban

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And I don't think Florida wilted, I think Bama just had WAYYYY too much for 'em.

I disagree.... we didn't stick to the game plan against Bama. Defense was out of sync possibly due to Dulap being suspended but that's what happens in football. Bama has a great team and wonderful talent but Florida had the experience and talent over Bama. It just goes to show that in this sport, you can lose a game mentaly just as much as you can in talent. Florida's mental game went TILT!!! Regarding Cinny, they could beat Florida too if the Gators aren't in sync and prepare mentaly. This is going to go one of two ways; either the Gators will be charged and pissed off about Bama and ambush Cinny on the field or we are going to TILT again thinking about how they shouldn't have lost against Bama. Either way, you have to respect Bama and how they brought the mix up plays to the field. They have a great coach and I hope that Urban Meyer reflects upon last weeks game for quite some time.

I'm going to disagree with you a little bit. Yes, the loss of Dunlap affected Florida's game plan somewhat. It meant Alabama didn't have to double-team him. But still, Florida is as deep on defense as anybody in the country. Dunlap's backup could probably start anywhere else, even at Alabama.

When Alabama lost Don'ta Hightower for the season, I'll admit Alabama took the next game to sort their rotation out, but by the next game it was business as usual, and they may even have gotten better because true freshman 5 star LB Nico Johnson got some playing time to get up to speed. Yeah it was against Kentucky. But after that, it was pretty much lights out defense.

Dunlap's fuck up could not have come at a worse time, I'll admit, BUT, I will say his loss should not have caused Florida's loss to Alabama. It was more like Alabama was more motivated to win. They were NOT GOING to be denied, AND their 4th quarter conditioning program they undertook in spring training and preseason training really made a big difference from last year.

Florida still should have made it a close game, but Alabama's defense rose to the challenge in the 4th quarter and refused to break in the red zone, forcing Tebow into a end zone interception and an incomplete pass on 4th down.

Revenge certainly was sweet!

Well, that's that.

"Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban

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Revenge certainly was sweet!

Actually, that wasn't exactly the right word. It was more like "payback's a bitch, ain't it?" This was the one game that Alabama worked all year to get back to, just because of how the game went in the 4th quarter last year.

To put it simply, last year, Alabama's starting 22 were just as good as anyone else in the nation, but they had no depth. You could see why, when you look at the scores broken down by quarters. Alabama scored about 80% of their points in the first half, and almost always got out-scored in the second half. Florida just wore them down in the 4th last year.

That made Alabama want to be sure they played hard all 60 minutes and would have the stamina and depth to do it. It helped a lot bringing in two straight #1 recruiting classes. Mission accomplished.

The national championship would be a nice bonus too.

"Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban

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I just couldn't resist...


Alabama was on The Wheel Of Fortune.

"Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban

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I just couldn't resist...


Alabama was on The Wheel Of Fortune.

haha.... that's funny!

P.s. sorry about the "underlining". I didn't realize I had hit that button.

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Whoa... looks like the Tennessee Vols program is being investigated for wide-spread recruiting violations.

I dunno about you, but fair turnabout is fair play. Beeeyotches! Deal with it. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/09/sports/ncaafootball/09tennessee.html?_r=2&th&emc=th

"Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban

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So lets say they find something...... What's the worst that will happen to the Vols?

Does anyone else find it funny that we made a SPORT out of an EMERGENCY PROCEDURE?!?!

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The worst that could happen would be the SMU death penalty. But that was a different era......given the huge monetary loss that action would cause today, I can't see the NCAA imposing that on any major school in the future. They would simply slap their wrist a little harder, or start using a stick (or maybe escalate to using a stick with a nail in it).


Don

"When in doubt I whip it out,
I got me a rock-and-roll band.
It's a free-for-all."

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The worst that could happen would be the SMU death penalty. But that was a different era......given the huge monetary loss that action would cause today, I can't see the NCAA imposing that on any major school in the future. They would simply slap their wrist a little harder, or start using a stick (or maybe escalate to using a stick with a nail in it).


Don

It all depends on Tennessee's past probationary history, as well as whether the violations are categorized as major (like loss of institutional control, I.E.)

I'm thinking loss of scholarships but no post-season ban or loss of TV exposure.

"Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban

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Is anyone surprised about Mark Ingram getting the Heisman??? I am just a tad..... I think a lot of that was driven from the Florida game. I'm surprised that Colt McCoy or Ndamukong Suh didn't receive it. I was pulling for Tebow but that would just breed more Gator Haters. I don't know why they keep bringing him as a cadidate.

Does anyone else find it funny that we made a SPORT out of an EMERGENCY PROCEDURE?!?!

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Is anyone surprised about Mark Ingram getting the Heisman??? I am just a tad..... I think a lot of that was driven from the Florida game. I'm surprised that Colt McCoy or Ndamukong Suh didn't receive it. I was pulling for Tebow but that would just breed more Gator Haters. I don't know why they keep bringing him as a cadidate.

I really thought somebody else would get the Heisman. Gerhart had better numbers, but his team lost 4 games, and relied on him because he was the only good player they had. Colt McCoy is the one I thought would win, since he's a senior and finally led the Longhorns to the BCS title game, but that Big 12 title game probably did him in. I thought Auburn had derailed Ingram's chances, and I knew that was exactly what they wanted to do. He only got 30 yards and suffered a hip pointer, so once he sat out, Auburn didn't have a target to focus on, because Ingram was like 90% of their defensive game planning.

I think Suh is the best player of all 5 finalists, but he's a defensive player, and only one has ever won the Heisman. Suh will go 1st in the NFL draft. I'll be shocked if he doesn't.

Tebow just didn't have the stats like he had his sophomore year. Ditto from last year. But he is now the only player in history to be invited to NYC 3 times for the Heisman presentation.

Ingram got 189 yards total offense against the nation's #1 defense and I think that is what convinced the voters to pick him, and he has averaged about 200 yards total offense against ranked opponents this year. The other games, he split time with Trent Richardson and other running backs. If Ingram would have played say 95% of the offensive snaps and was the only good player Alabama had to depend on, he might be pushing 1800 or 1900 yards.

"Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban

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I thought Auburn had derailed Ingram's chances, and I knew that was exactly what they wanted to do.

True........ but this goes to show why I say it's becoming more of a conventional wisdom award and not the best athlete award. Here is what I mean. Gerhart had the numbers but because of Stanford's record, voting associated him with losing. Ingram's numbers weren't the best but I believe that even though Auburn put the brakes on him, Florida gave the SEC game away but not showing up mentally. Therefore, people remember the most recent situations and thus, he was awarded the Heisman. McCoy certainly did a lot for Texas and I think his numbers and acomplishments got Texas to the BCS in large part. However, once again the most recent game against Nebraska and because of how it ended I think killed his Heisman.

Does anyone else find it funny that we made a SPORT out of an EMERGENCY PROCEDURE?!?!

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I thought Auburn had derailed Ingram's chances, and I knew that was exactly what they wanted to do.

True........ but this goes to show why I say it's becoming more of a conventional wisdom award and not the best athlete award. Here is what I mean. Gerhart had the numbers but because of Stanford's record, voting associated him with losing. Ingram's numbers weren't the best but I believe that even though Auburn put the brakes on him, Florida gave the SEC game away but not showing up mentally. Therefore, people remember the most recent situations and thus, he was awarded the Heisman. McCoy certainly did a lot for Texas and I think his numbers and acomplishments got Texas to the BCS in large part. However, once again the most recent game against Nebraska and because of how it ended I think killed his Heisman.

I agree with all of that but at the same time if Suh did not get it I thought Ingram should get it. McCoy although he had solid numbers he just doesn't do it for me when I watch him play. He does not make me say "wow that kid is amazing". Tebow doesn't come close to that either for me. Gerhart, Ingram, and Suh do but I saw Ingram a lot less because of split time and when he was on the field 95% of the time I was in aw. Suh is just dominate so I was pulling for him but didn't think he was going to win. With all that being said I think this was the year a D player shoudl have won. Woodson although great did not deserve the Heisman over my boy Peyton. This year they got it wrong again... Suh really should have won.

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You know what I found amazing? Looking over the statistics for Alabama's rushing offense: Alabama had 2555 net yards rushing on 550 plays. Mark Ingram had 1532 net yards rushing on 249 plays. That comes out to 60% of the yards and 45% of the plays that Mark carried the ball on. Ingram's back-up Trent Richardson had over 600 yards alone.

Gerhart's participation level is most likely much higher. iF Ingram had played the same percent of plays that Gerhart did, I bet you that Ingram would have more yards than Gerhart had.

"Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban

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You know what I found amazing? Looking over the statistics for Alabama's rushing offense: Alabama had 2555 net yards rushing on 550 plays. Mark Ingram had 1532 net yards rushing on 249 plays. That comes out to 60% of the yards and 45% of the plays that Mark carried the ball on. Ingram's back-up Trent Richardson had over 600 yards alone.

Gerhart's participation level is most likely much higher. iF Ingram had played the same percent of plays that Gerhart did, I bet you that Ingram would have more yards than Gerhart had.

I know.... it is pretty amazing. That kid is a tank with insane speed. He has a bright future ahead of him. Alamaba's O line is nasty too so that obviously helps.

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You know what I found amazing? Looking over the statistics for Alabama's rushing offense: Alabama had 2555 net yards rushing on 550 plays. Mark Ingram had 1532 net yards rushing on 249 plays. That comes out to 60% of the yards and 45% of the plays that Mark carried the ball on. Ingram's back-up Trent Richardson had over 600 yards alone.

Gerhart's participation level is most likely much higher. iF Ingram had played the same percent of plays that Gerhart did, I bet you that Ingram would have more yards than Gerhart had.

I know.... it is pretty amazing. That kid is a tank with insane speed. He has a bright future ahead of him. Alamaba's O line is nasty too so that obviously helps.

Oh yeah, the O line was the big surprise of the season. They had to shuffle the line after losing three starters, but they made it work out well. It's even better as a unit overall than last year's line, which had 3 outstanding players and 2 mediocre ones. All Alabama has to do now is re-load every year.

"Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban