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force you to work every single holiday with absolutely no exceptions? I'm talking New Years, Easter, Spring Break, Memorial Day, 4th of July, Labor Day, Thanksgiving and Christmas.

When hired, I knew I would have to work holidays. But they never stated every single holiday. They're rule is that you have to work every holiday until your 50th birthday. Then you can get holiday's off. I asked about maybe getting Thanksgiving or Christmas off next year since I have family in Florida. They said don't bother asking. Today, someone else asked about possibly getting Christmas off. The boss' response was, "Well let's see, the last person who asked for a holiday off was unemployed the next day."

It's a well known fact that if you call off on a holiday or on a weekend, no matter what the reason, you're automatically fired. There was one girl who's Mom got into a bad accident on a Friday night. When she called the next morning to say she wasn't coming in they told her don't bother coming back. How the hell is any of this legal???

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force you to work every single holiday with absolutely no exceptions? I'm talking New Years, Easter, Spring Break, Memorial Day, 4th of July, Labor Day, Thanksgiving and Christmas.

When hired, I knew I would have to work holidays. But they never stated every single holiday. They're rule is that you have to work every holiday until your 50th birthday. Then you can get holiday's off. I asked about maybe getting Thanksgiving or Christmas off next year since I have family in Florida. They said don't bother asking. Today, someone else asked about possibly getting Christmas off. The boss' response was, "Well let's see, the last person who asked for a holiday off was unemployed the next day."

It's a well known fact that if you call off on a holiday or on a weekend, no matter what the reason, you're automatically fired. There was one girl who's Mom got into a bad accident on a Friday night. When she called the next morning to say she wasn't coming in they told her don't bother coming back. How the hell is any of this legal???



What kind of compnay is this? Private/federal? Were you aware of all of this when you accepted the job? Is there holiday pay differential? I don't know what state you live in but each state varies with respect to employee rights. Here in TX it's almost like the employee has none compared to other states I have lived in. When I worked in the restaraunt business it was kind of like what you are saying. They already had the employees by the balls though because we were a bunch of young college kids and we REALLY needed the money, so people never complained because they were afraid to get fired. In my current work in a professional environment it's a little different. I guess it depends on where you work. I've been on both sides of the coin though and definitely know what you're going through.

I would say start looking for another job. Just my opinion though. [:/]
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I work at an animal hospital as a vet tech. What makes things worse is that when I was hired I was told that after 3 months I would get a raise based on a performance evaluation. It's been 3 1/2 months. I went in today to ask about it and they said, "I don't know why you were told that. We don't do raises here. I'll ask Doc (the owner) about it but don't count on anything." >:(>:(

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Seems unreasonable, but looks like the department of labor laws leave it up to the company...
http://www.dol.gov/dol/topic/workhours/holidays.htm There may be a local / or state law that GA has that may help.

You work in a vets office right? So the animals require 24/7 care. I can't understand why they could not work a rotating schedule to allow employees time off. Sounds like they are just asses.

That really sucks :|

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I work at an animal hospital as a vet tech. What makes things worse is that when I was hired I was told that after 3 months I would get a raise based on a performance evaluation. It's been 3 1/2 months. I went in today to ask about it and they said, "I don't know why you were told that. We don't do raises here. I'll ask Doc (the owner) about it but don't count on anything." >:(>:(



They sound shady like the people I am working for now. I got lied to from day one in the interview. Seriously... everything was exaggerated or a flat out lie. I just got a new job with the NWS out in California and I so can't wait to give my two weeks to them (my current employer) at the end of this month!!!

Again like I said in my post above... I would seriously start looking to work some place else. You don't have to deal with that crap!
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Checking the board here on labor laws, the only thing they are required to grant you is FMLA if requested in the proper time frame and for certain condition as child birth, medical care ect.

Other than that the only other is within an 8 hour work period a 20 min lunch, everything else is just out of kindness.
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Yeah, tell them to kiss your rosey red ass. (might want to do that after finding another position and making sure you're good to start there)

Im sure you can find a better job that gives you time off... that place just sounds shady.
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force you to work every single holiday with absolutely no exceptions? I'm talking New Years, Easter, Spring Break, Memorial Day, 4th of July, Labor Day, Thanksgiving and Christmas.



Probably. Sounds cruel, but yes, they can absolutely do that as long as they pay you properly.

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you get vacation days? sick days? personal days? any days off during the week? or are you expected to work 365 days a year? if youre hourly, i believe on national holidays you can get paid either time and a half or double. additionally there are usually overtime laws for hourly if you are working over 40 a week, and/or 8 a day depending on where you live.

If youre salary- tough luck, you signed a contract that should have been understood before you began work, and the employer should have made sure you understood exactly what is expected.

i assume youre being compensated well if you are working 7/365, if not and you dont like it, leave.:)

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force you to work every single holiday with absolutely no exceptions? I'm talking New Years, Easter, Spring Break, Memorial Day, 4th of July, Labor Day, Thanksgiving and Christmas.



Probably. Sounds cruel, but yes, they can absolutely do that as long as they pay you properly.



What do you mean by properly? If you mean an actual livable wage, then no...they don't.

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you get vacation days? sick days? personal days? any days off during the week? or are you expected to work 365 days a year? if youre hourly, i believe on national holidays you can get paid either time and a half or double. additionally there are usually overtime laws for hourly if you are working over 40 a week, and/or 8 a day depending on where you live.

If youre salary- tough luck, you signed a contract that should have been understood before you began work, and the employer should have made sure you understood exactly what is expected.

i assume youre being compensated well if you are working 7/365, if not and you dont like it, leave.:)



I get paid hourly. We get 1 day off a week and work every other weekend. You get a week total of vacation, personal and sick days after you've been there a year. As far as pay on the holidays...we get 8 hours of regular pay plus regular pay for however long we're there that day (typically only 30 or 40 minutes...however long it takes to take all the dogs outside, let them do their business, and then feed them).

I don't consider $8.50 an hour good compensation. Trust me...I've been desperately searching for a new job with no luck.

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I know it sucks when you are told one thing and the employeer doesn't follow thru-. I was told I would have a increase after my 90 days and then i had a new mgr, then another mgr then another , and another. As of last week I have a new mgr again. I never got the said increase and the yrly raise after being their for a yr was 17 cents. I have great hrs, every holiday off, get to play online daily have full medical and dental, and i like what I do. Yes, I could use more money but I have an income and so on. It works for now..:)

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you complain a lot about your jobs:ph34r:

Didnt you whine a bit about your last employment too.


I Think there's probably quite a few people reading here on dizzy who would love to be in a position to have a job to complain about:|

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when I was hired I was told that after 3 months I would get a raise based on a performance evaluation. It's been 3 1/2 months. I went in today



You have worked 3.5 months as of today and you are complaining about working the upcoming holidays? You have worked 3.5 months and are already asking for time-off for the holidays next year?

How long have you worked anywhere?
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force you to work every single holiday with absolutely no exceptions? I'm talking New Years, Easter, Spring Break, Memorial Day, 4th of July, Labor Day, Thanksgiving and Christmas.


Probably. Sounds cruel, but yes, they can absolutely do that as long as they pay you properly.



What do you mean by properly? If you mean an actual livable wage, then no...they don't.



Unfortunately the people that write the minimum wage laws aren't concerned with a "living wage."

What I mean by "properly" is according to your state law regarding overtime and holiday pay.

In most states overtime begins at 40 hours in a week or more than 10 in a single day, while in others it's more than 8 hours per day. Usually holidays are paid at time and a half.

As long as your state laws are being met, then, yeah, it's legal.
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when I was hired I was told that after 3 months I would get a raise based on a performance evaluation. It's been 3 1/2 months. I went in today



You have worked 3.5 months as of today and you are complaining about working the upcoming holidays? You have worked 3.5 months and are already asking for time-off for the holidays next year?

How long have you worked anywhere?



Before college I held a single job for 5 years. All 4 years of college I worked at 1 job (well at times I held 2 jobs). For 2 years before I moved here I held a single job (2 if you count packing at the DZ). I wasn't already asking off for next year, I just wanted to know if it was even a possibility. Typically my family does Christmas one year in Atlanta, then the next year in Florida. This year it's in Atlanta. After all the things I heard I was curious if there was the slightest chance I'd get to have Christmas with my family next year. I'm not complaining about this years holidays. As the new person I expected to have to work holidays for a while. I just think it's ridiculous to never be able to have a single holiday off for any reason.

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force you to work every single holiday with absolutely no exceptions? I'm talking New Years, Easter, Spring Break, Memorial Day, 4th of July, Labor Day, Thanksgiving and Christmas.



There's no federal law against it.

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How the hell is any of this legal???



You live in the United States.

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force you to work every single holiday with absolutely no exceptions? I'm talking New Years, Easter, Spring Break, Memorial Day, 4th of July, Labor Day, Thanksgiving and Christmas.



There's no federal law against it.

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How the hell is any of this legal???



You live in the United States.

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when I was hired I was told that after 3 months I would get a raise based on a performance evaluation. It's been 3 1/2 months. I went in today



You have worked 3.5 months as of today and you are complaining about working the upcoming holidays? You have worked 3.5 months and are already asking for time-off for the holidays next year?

How long have you worked anywhere?



She was asking for next yr and not the upcoming holidays.
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I'm of the opinion that you have a certain period in which you can complain about having been lied to.. But there comes a point where you have to admit that by doing nothing about your situation you are essentially accepting that it's ok.

For instance, I was told all kinds of lies about my job when I first started. I complained and threatened to leave, and a couple of months later they promoted me.. That turned out to be a big fat bunch of lies as well.. One year later, I told HR I was fed up with my role and wanted a change.. They promoted me again (mostly sideways, but a bit up as well). And, unsurprisingly, that role was/is also a joke.

But honestly.. After the first few months.. I stopped believing the bullshit and knew what the deal was.. In still working there, I accept all the bs and take the job for what it is: shitty, but well paid. It's clear that my company will never offer me what I want, so if I want things to change, I do have the option of quitting and finding a new job. I therefore don't have much of a right to complain because ultimately, it's *my* fault that I choose to carry on putting up with the bs.

Now, iluvtofly, this may be a new job, and things may change.. But if over time they don't change and you're still unhappy - take matters into your own hands and make the change yourself.. Otherwise.. Suck it up.. :|

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Usually holidays are paid at time and a half.



I worked holidays (small salary, largely commission-based) straight out of college for a couple years and I was their top-producer. Forget time-and-a-half which my position did not qualify. I had to sit there all day on the holiday for the fuck-of-it. The economy was awesome then.

Animal hospital? That was my first-ever job. Cleaning cages, washing & walking animals and picking up poo--I worked holidays because the animals do not just go to sleep and wake up 48 hours later.
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