Loud V-twin bikers are fags!

[AggieDave 6]

My BMW 1150RT vibrates worst then my Vulcan 800. At highway speeds (rpms), its pretty loud too (the BMW).

I ride both, I like both and I ride the hell out of them. I literally ride nearly every day. Probably around 340+ days out of the year.

I don't care what you ride, just ride it well, don't be an ass and ride it often.

--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline."

[diablopilot 2]

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I'm always asked why I still have factory pipes on my yzf600r and my reply is that I like my neighbors.

Same reason I have the stock pipes on my V Star. I can warm it up at 8am without getting dirty looks.

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[KevinMcGuire 0]

Even though I ride Japanese in-line 4 cylinder, (and love it) I for one can appreciated a cool V-twin for the creativity some possess. Some are simply down right cool as shit to look at. Riding them is usually a whole different story. Clearly most are not built with performance or long distance riding comfort in mind. They are more form than function and usually two to three time the cost so what’s the attraction? Simply put its image. I have always been fascinated with is the all the Harley/V-twin gear that V-twin riders wear. Please someone, help me out with a few questions I have. What exactly is the Harley head scarf going to protect in a crash? (Here in AZ we have no helmet law). Even in states with helmet laws where riders are required to wear helmets, V-twin riders never wear full face helmets in spite of the fact that they are safer. What exactly are the ass less chaps going to protect when they go down? Certainly not their asses. And the vest. WTF? It seems to me that Harley gear is nothing more than an attempt to identify with a subculture and therefore fit in. It’s as if they are saying to the world, hey look at me I'm a rebel but honestly, if your really a rebel, do you care about fitting in? I think not. Just what are they attempting to fit into? I always get a kick out of those who feel compelled to get a Harley tattoo. My guess is that they must have stock in the company and the logo is their way of promoting the product they sell. Hummm Perhaps I'll get a Nike tattoo.

[skyrider 0]

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It all comes down to people not getting enough attention as kids, now they are trying to make up for it. I guess I got enough, I still have the stock pipes on my VMax. Oh, but I do like smoking HDs...too bad they dont race for pinks anymore, i could be a richer man.

Talk about a Juvinile mind set....WHO needs to Race to be a biker? Who gievs a fuck who is faster? Yoru using the same stupid mindset that thinks loud pipes make them better!

I can see you now as a child tell folks your dad could beat up theirs!

I am a Certified Honda Mechanic...which is why I have been riding harleys for over 40 years! I love the history, Not the cheap thrill of going fast...anyoen can go fast, with a cheap jap bike, takes a mechanic(or rich person) to ride classic/antique Iron!

[aphid 0]

Hey Kevin... I usually ride my Harleys wearing sneakers, jeans, and a skydive tanktop. I really don't care what people think, and besides, it's my head and my skin. The leathers I use in the rain or snow is all custom-made for me. The only HD "gear" I own are tee shirts, and they've all been gifts from others. I refuse to buy any of their stuff for me.

Although I have spent a small fortune on HD bitch-wear for my lady-friends...

[ryoder 1,590]

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Hey Kevin... I usually ride my Harleys wearing sneakers, jeans, and a skydive tanktop.

When I had my Sportster, I usually rode with cut-off jeans, tank-top, sandals, and helmet (required). But then again, I also did a lot of other stupid things when I was 20.

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[skyrider 0]

Clothes comes down to weather, as much as protection....(when you ride smart, you don't always need leather)

As for Helmets, we have the "go fast squids with their I can blow away any harley rice rockets" to thank for that law!

average winter wear, (18 degrees when this was taken) two of everything, including 3 pair of gloves..
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v400/onekick/winter.jpg

[KevinMcGuire 0]

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Hey Kevin... I usually ride my Harleys wearing sneakers, jeans, and a skydive tanktop. I really don't care what people think, and besides, it's my head and my skin. The leathers I use in the rain or snow is all custom-made for me. The only HD "gear" I own are tee shirts, and they've all been gifts from others. I refuse to buy any of their stuff for me.

I'm all about people making their own choices regarding safety or the lack thereof.
I used to ride without a helmet or any protective gear. Then one day I went down once without any of it. Ever since then I ride with the works. Helmet , protective jacket and pants boots, gloves, the works. My brain, my body, my choice.
I do recall that you wear pretty much whatever you have on when you ride. Thats your choice and thats cool with me. I'm not here to preach to anyone.

I suppose that I made to general of a statement in my other post. Not everyone dresses like jerk off but you have to admit, those who deck themselves out in worthless product promo and brand identity gear do look a bit silly.
On a personal note, Any word if they plan to let you back in anytime soon?

[Squeak 17]

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The South Park episode was hilarious, and I couldn't agree with it more.

Loud cruiser style motorcycles wallow in a vast sea of lameness - look-at-me-I'm-so-cool loud, stupidly forward foot position, can't lean in a corner worth a shit, they aren't even especially fast.

You do realise that there are more than just Hardlys that are V Twins
Duckes, Ricers, Guzzis.

And if you need to blip the throttle at lights to keep it running LEARN TO SET THE IDLE CORRECTLY

You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky)
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How's yours doing?

[aphid 0]

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but you have to admit, those who deck themselves out in worthless product promo and brand identity gear do look a bit silly.

Oh hell yeah. RUB's, (related to yuppie pond-scum), Rich Urban Bikers. Best one I ever saw? In Eloy too, ironically... a guy on a Kawasaki, with all the ident's removed and dressed like a Harley, wearing full-on HD apparel. Pissed myself at that.

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On a personal note, Any word if they plan to let you back in anytime soon?

Thanks for asking Kev. The ban still stands - 5 years. Still waiting for confirmation from the lawyers they'll take my case. It's pretty damned difficult (and expensive) to fight your bureaucrats in CBP & DHS. After visiting and team-training at SkydiveAZ for 15 years straight, I'm keeping my fingers crossed for the best.

BTW: personal note - your Halloween costume was the BOMB! :)

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It all comes down to people not getting enough attention as kids, now they are trying to make up for it. I guess I got enough, I still have the stock pipes on my VMax. Oh, but I do like smoking HDs...too bad they dont race for pinks anymore, i could be a richer man.

Talk about a Juvinile mind set....WHO needs to Race to be a biker? Who gievs a fuck who is faster? Yoru using the same stupid mindset that thinks loud pipes make them better!

I can see you now as a child tell folks your dad could beat up theirs!

I am a Certified Honda Mechanic...which is why I have been riding harleys for over 40 years! I love the history, Not the cheap thrill of going fast...anyoen can go fast, with a cheap jap bike, takes a mechanic(or rich person) to ride classic/antique Iron!

uh, i do believe racing is a very popular sport. and, by the way, i was the last of 8 kids, so when as a gear head, we took our cars and bikes to the local track for grudge night, my dad didn't really want to hear about it...he'd already been there, done that.

so your saying being a biker is about riding slow, and wearing silly cloths....since racing is for juviniles. look, i appreciate old bikes more that the average person...i dont like the new alien looking crotch rockets...no uniqness, but the fags who run around all dressed up, blasting their pipes, are no different from some fag in orange county, starving for attention. i prefer my bikes the only real color of a hot rod, flat black, no frills, no gay leather whip hanging off the end of the bars....and certainly...no chrome. but if you want call me juvinlle, i gladly go that way, rather then hang out with the over the hill, fat ass, fag harley rider that has his nose so high up in the air he has forgot that at one time HD when bankrupt, and is most likely going there again.

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[sundevil777 102]

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The South Park episode was hilarious, and I couldn't agree with it more.

Loud cruiser style motorcycles wallow in a vast sea of lameness - look-at-me-I'm-so-cool loud, stupidly forward foot position, can't lean in a corner worth a shit, they aren't even especially fast.

You do realise that there are more than just Hardlys that are V Twins
Duckes, Ricers, Guzzis.

And if you need to blip the throttle at lights to keep it running LEARN TO SET THE IDLE CORRECTLY

Yes, I do realize there are other types of Vtwins, I'm guilty of a bit of generalization, and I certainly recognize that it doesn't have to be a Harley to be insanely loud.

I do love motorcycles. I don't like overly loud engines of any sort, but the cruiser style Vtwins are the best at their ability to make an insanely loud bark.

I prefer the conventional seating posture (not cruiser style pegs forward or cafe racer style scrunched up) where you can actually stand up on the pegs if needed, such as when going over a bump. If you can't stand up on the pegs, you get launched up in the air by the seat.

I prefer bikes where you can actually lean significantly into a corner. That doesn't require a cafe racer style, the normal seating position style bikes used to be able to corner quite well. The engine itself of a Vtwin is narrow, but usually a bunch of other shit is hung out on the sides so that overall it is really wide down low and unable to corner worth a darn, their riders have to have their legs spread wide when they should be the narrowest of bikes out there.

If I were to get another bike, I think it would be one of the off road capable bikes. You can go over curbs, explore offroad, get airborne on certain bumps, high seating position, great cornering clearance, very maneuverable.

People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

[diablopilot 2]

http://www.starmotorcycles.com/star/products/modelhome/21/0/home.aspx

You mean like this one?

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[skyrider 0]

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http://www.starmotorcycles.com/star/products/modelhome/21/0/home.aspx

You mean like this one?

I made it a link...

[sundevil777 102]

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http://www.starmotorcycles.com/star/products/modelhome/21/0/home.aspx

You mean like this one?

I made it a link...

That bike still has the way stupid forward foot position, but looks like it can corner better than most cruisers. That is likely due to the engine being a very short stroke design, and only 650cc. - so the cylinders aren't nearly as tall as long stroke mega displacement engines.

What I'm talking about is like this:

http://powersports.honda.com/2009/xr650l.aspx

Plenty of power for highway speeds, but much greater capacity for fun. Some mfgs do models that are a bit more street oriented than this, I would consider them also.

People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

[skyrider 0]

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http://www.starmotorcycles.com/star/products/modelhome/21/0/home.aspx

You mean like this one?

I made it a link...

That bike still has the way stupid forward foot position, but looks like it can corner better than most cruisers. That is likely due to the engine being a very short stroke design, and only 650cc. - so the cylinders aren't nearly as tall as long stroke mega displacement engines.

What I'm talking about is like this:

http://powersports.honda.com/2009/xr650l.aspx

Plenty of power for highway speeds, but much greater capacity for fun. Some mfgs do models that are a bit more street oriented than this, I would consider them also.

How is forward Stupid? How do you sit in your car? Legs tuked under? nope forward, is it comfortable?
Just because you don;t prefer soemthing a certain way...why call it "stupid"?

BTW, Where can you ride safe and Legally, that needs to lean "that" far? Loud pipes are not near the problem as much canyon racers are!

Yet, I won't insult someone or call them stupid for liking /prefering that style...

Liek mentioned before, i have clicked off over one million miles, and still prefer my footboards, they are forward, yet allow me to slide my leg into many positions....(and make great light shows at night when I hotdog! dragging the ground...

[sundevil777 102]

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How is forward Stupid? How do you sit in your car? Legs tuked under? nope forward, is it comfortable?
Just because you don;t prefer soemthing a certain way...why call it "stupid"?

As I mentioned before, I consider forward stupid because you can't stand up on the pegs like you can with a conventional footpeg position as needed to go over an obstacle/bump/pothole. I think that is stupid, I realize it is my opinion. There is no relation of this to the seating position in a car.

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BTW, Where can you ride safe and Legally, that needs to lean "that" far?

I'm not talking about "that" far (extremes), I'm talking about the fact that I see so many cruiser bike needing to go very slow when they corner, to avoid scraping. They have very little ability to lean into a corner. I consider leaning into a corner (not to the point of any extremes) to be one of the joys of riding a bike. My friends that have taken their cruisers to the "tail of the dragon" or other similar twisties admit that they really can't enjoy it very much because they are so limited in their cornering ability. Such a limit on that ability is a safety related limitation on cruisers, they will dump you down if you scrape too much, and it is waay too easy to scrape too much.

Anyway, I really enjoyed the South Park episode. I aplogize to those I've offended, but it is my honest opinion, and one I have chosen to share at risk of bringing such opinions on myself.

People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

[skyrider 0]

I've riddent the Tail of the Dragon on my Knucklehead, I had no problems with it, I did on a regular basis flag Rice rockets to pass me while I moved to the outside (curb side) for them...there is room for everyone!

To me, this is comfortable...

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v400/onekick/apes/?action=view¤t=waterfall115.jpg

[sundevil777 102]

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I've riddent the Tail of the Dragon on my Knucklehead, I had no problems with it, I did on a regular basis flag Rice rockets to pass me while I moved to the outside (curb side) for them...there is room for everyone!

To me, this is comfortable...

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v400/onekick/apes/?action=view¤t=waterfall115.jpg

Having no problems with it is very different than being able to enjoy it without the severe cornering limitations. You adjusted your speed according to your knowledge of the bikes limitations. Being able to corner at more severe angles than your bike is capable is a safety matter, in my opinion. Of course there is room for everyone...

I really have trouble believing that ape hanger handlebars are comfortable. I haven't personally experienced them, but I am very skeptical. I do strongly suspect that they reduce your ability to control the bike, and as such are worse than just the ordinary style sort of adornment.

People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

[normiss 803]

You're saying loud bikers are fags?

I'll keep my voice down just for little you then.

[sundevil777 102]

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You're saying loud bikers are fags?

I'll keep my voice down just for little you then.

No, not their voice, their bikes Seriously, please understand my comment in the context of the South Park episode - see link in earlier post. It really was hilarious.

People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

[normiss 803]

Sorry, I went by the title.
I don't watch South Park, don't find it funny.

[danornan 79]

I've been riding bikes since I was 16 and thought the South Park episode in question was hysterical. Those who are offended by it are the ones it is directed. I presently ride a BMW, but love the sound of a stock HD. Any rider who constantly "blips" the throttle is either trying to keep his engine from dying or is, just as the show says, "looking for attention."

Dano

[skyrider 0]

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I've riddent the Tail of the Dragon on my Knucklehead, I had no problems with it, I did on a regular basis flag Rice rockets to pass me while I moved to the outside (curb side) for them...there is room for everyone!

To me, this is comfortable...

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v400/onekick/apes/?action=view¤t=waterfall115.jpg

Having no problems with it is very different than being able to enjoy it without the severe cornering limitations. You adjusted your speed according to your knowledge of the bikes limitations. Being able to corner at more severe angles than your bike is capable is a safety matter, in my opinion. Of course there is room for everyone...

I really have trouble believing that ape hanger handlebars are comfortable. I haven't personally experienced them, but I am very skeptical. I do strongly suspect that they reduce your ability to control the bike, and as such are worse than just the ordinary style sort of adornment.

LOL...the voice of inexperience!

[normiss 803]

Funny boy Dan...there is NO sound to a stock HD!
Sewing machines make more noise.

I missed the South Park episode, and don't usually care for the show so I'll pass. I doubt I'd be offended either way...you know me!
I love all bike jokes myself...I've owned or ridden the majority of mass produced sleds and have built a few choice ones as well. There are reasons we all like the differences in bikes, which is reflective of what's available to us.