1969912 0 #1 October 25, 2009 The time on my Win2k PC was off by 1 hour this morning (said 8:44 instead of 9:44) Why would this happen? The only thing I can think of is my cat might have walked on the keyboard just righ, but that seems unlikely. "Once we got to the point where twenty/something's needed a place on the corner that changed the oil in their cars we were doomed . . ." -NickDG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iluvtofly 0 #2 October 25, 2009 I think it's because day light savings time is a little late this year (or at least it feels like it). I know when I got to work this morning, the time clock was an hour early. And in my half asleep state, I had a moment of panic thinking I was an hour early and could have slept another hour. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
labrys 0 #3 October 25, 2009 It probably has incorrect daylight savings time information. A couple of years ago DST would have ended last night.Owned by Remi #? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #4 October 25, 2009 You're using "old" software that is using the "old" Daylight Saving Time rules. The rules have changes and Daylight Saving Time now end later in the year by a couple of weeks. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_timequade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1969912 0 #5 October 25, 2009 Aha! Thanks! "Once we got to the point where twenty/something's needed a place on the corner that changed the oil in their cars we were doomed . . ." -NickDG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IanHarrop 42 #6 October 25, 2009 QuoteThe time on my Win2k PC was off by 1 hour this morning (said 8:44 instead of 9:44) Why would this happen? The only thing I can think of is my cat might have walked on the keyboard just righ, but that seems unlikely. Check this: http://support.microsoft.com/gp/cp_dst"Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #7 October 25, 2009 I love how Microsoft blames their shitty programming on the rest of the world rather than themselves.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #8 October 25, 2009 My computer shows 12:02 PM, as does my pager, and I just installed Windows 7. I'm good...."Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #9 October 25, 2009 U.K BST ended at 02:00 this very morning ... what is your P.C locale set too? (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ltdiver 3 #10 October 25, 2009 QuoteYou're using "old" software that is using the "old" Daylight Saving Time rules. The rules have changes and Daylight Saving Time now end later in the year by a couple of weeks. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time I'd rather the world give up this stupid, out-dated, time switching attitude. Take DST and stick with it! (Okay, I hate getting out of work in the dark during the winter . . .) ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #11 October 25, 2009 QuoteThe time on my Win2k PC I think we have the problem... the old if its not broke don't fix it or upgrade it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #12 October 25, 2009 QuoteI'd rather the world give up this stupid, out-dated, time switching attitude. Take DST and stick with it! (Okay, I hate getting out of work in the dark during the winter . . .) If I had to pick one, I'd pick standard time so that noon would be more closely associated with the sun being south. Business can then shift their work hours to reflect whether or not they want to be open earlier or later without some goofy government mandate on the subject.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ltdiver 3 #13 October 25, 2009 Quote Business can then shift their work hours to reflect whether or not they want to be open earlier or later without some goofy government mandate on the subject. It's hard enough wrestling patients out of bed at 7:00 AM. They're not going to budge at 6:00 AM! ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #14 October 25, 2009 Quote Quote Business can then shift their work hours to reflect whether or not they want to be open earlier or later without some goofy government mandate on the subject. It's hard enough wrestling patients out of bed at 7:00 AM. They're not going to budge at 6:00 AM! ltdiver Uh, they're doing it right now. They just don't realize it.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ltdiver 3 #15 October 25, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Business can then shift their work hours to reflect whether or not they want to be open earlier or later without some goofy government mandate on the subject. It's hard enough wrestling patients out of bed at 7:00 AM. They're not going to budge at 6:00 AM! ltdiver Uh, they're doing it right now. They just don't realize it. Yes, but a clock on the wall has ALOT of sway with their mental attitude. Folks that don't feel well to begin with don't like outside sources disturbing their sleep. ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydveraz 0 #16 October 25, 2009 Quote I love how Microsoft blames their shitty programming on the rest of the world rather than themselves. So, Will this explain why the clock on my computer is correct twice a day? Otherwise, forget it!Arizona only has two seasons, Hot and HOTTER! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreePhly 0 #17 October 26, 2009 Yea, good thing Apple doesn't need to do thathttp://support.apple.com/kb/HT2019?viewlocale=en_US PhreePhly Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Southern_Man 0 #18 October 26, 2009 Just change the clocks, then."What if there were no hypothetical questions?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Harmless 0 #19 October 26, 2009 ?? Believe me, I am usually not the one defending Microsoft, but you are off base here. Win2k is 4 months shy of being a decade old... I don't think they should be held responsible for patching software that has had 5 versions released since."Damn you Gravity, you win again" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #20 October 26, 2009 Quote Yea, good thing Apple doesn't need to do thathttp://support.apple.com/kb/HT2019?viewlocale=en_US PhreePhly The difference being that Mac OS has had, for quite a long time (well before y2k), time software that takes into account the location of the computer and synchronizes it against an Apple maintained time server. In other words, as long as your computer is even marginally set up right (and they make it incredibly difficult to screw it up), then the Mac's time is automatically set correctly.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #21 October 26, 2009 Quote?? Believe me, I am usually not the one defending Microsoft, but you are off base here. Win2k is 4 months shy of being a decade old... I don't think they should be held responsible for patching software that has had 5 versions released since. Actually..... http://support.microsoft.com/gp/dst_topissues#Supporting_DST_changes Supporting the DST changes on Windows operating systems For Windows Vista, Windows Server 2008, Windows XP Service Pack 2 (SP2), Windows Server 2003 SP1 and SP2, Windows Embedded for Point of Service, and Windows Fundamentals for Legacy PCs, Microsoft will release a single global time zone update that will include changes for the latest cumulative DST change. This time zone update will also include changes for other related DST changes and time zone behavior and settings. Products affected by this change in daylight saving time: Windows Vista, Windows Server 2008 Update available See knowledge base article 951072 (Aug 2008). Windows XP SP2 Windows Server 2003 SP1 Windows Server 2003 SP2 Windows Embedded for Point of Service Windows Fundamentals for Legacy PCs Update available Windows XP SP2 (also applicable to Windows Embedded for Point of Service and Windows Fundamentals for Legacy PCs) and Windows Server 2003 SP1 and SP2 updates are available for production deployment for all customers through the Microsoft Download Center, Knowledge Base article 951072, Windows Update and WSUS. This update is high priority or critical. Windows Small Business Server 2003 Std Ed. Windows Small Business Server 2003 Prem Ed. Windows Small Business Server 2003 R2 Std Ed. Windows Small Business Server 2003 R2 Prem Ed. Update available Several SBS components require updates (Windows Server, Exchange Server, Outlook 2003, Windows SharePoint Services, SQL Server). Use the product list to determine which updates must be applied. Windows 2000 Update available - (under Extended Hotfix Support) Windows 2000 has passed the end of Mainstream Support and will not be receiving an update without Extended Hotfix Support. All versions of Windows can be manually updated by using the Tzedit.exe utility or by using other techniques documented in Knowledge Base article 914387, Online Webcast 930688, and similar articles for other countries. That is the preferred method of remediation for any product outside Mainstream Support. (The Tzedit.exe tool lets you create and edit time zone entries for the Date/Time settings in Control Panel, especially for daylight saving time.) Windows XP SP1 Not Supported Windows XP SP1 is no longer supported. Find information about support options for Windows XP SP1. Windows NT 4.0 Not Supported Windows NT 4.0 is no longer supported. Find information about support options for Windows NT 4.0. All versions of Windows can be manually updated using the Tzedit.exe utility or by using other techniques documented in Knowledge Base article 914387 and similar articles for other countries, which is the preferred method of remediation for any product outside Mainstream Support. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreePhly 0 #22 October 26, 2009 Quote Quote Yea, good thing Apple doesn't need to do thathttp://support.apple.com/kb/HT2019?viewlocale=en_US PhreePhly The difference being that Mac OS has had, for quite a long time (well before y2k), time software that takes into account the location of the computer and synchronizes it against an Apple maintained time server. In other words, as long as your computer is even marginally set up right (and they make it incredibly difficult to screw it up), then the Mac's time is automatically set correctly. No different than Windows. Hell, Windows 95 corrected for daylight savings. However, in 2005, the interval for daylight savings changed and an update had to be installed. So long as that update was installed, no problem. This is exactly the same with OSX, an update was required for older versions of OSX. Your idiotic statement regarding MS "blaming the rest of the world" or some such crap is the issue here. Just like MS, Apple had to create an update for time change. Win2k, being almost 9 years old, needs an update to get the time right. Obviously, the ability to change from Daylight Savings to Standard time exists, as the OP's computer did just that, howver the proper update was not installed to adjust to the new Daylight Savings time interval. PhreePhly Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Harmless 0 #23 October 26, 2009 I am missing your point? If you mean that Microsoft has released a fix for the issue, I'm not disagreeing. My point was that they should not be held responsible for patching decade old software. Whether they do or don't is their choice"Damn you Gravity, you win again" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #24 October 26, 2009 I think you've missed the point. In Windows it's a client side thing. On a Mac, it's server side. As long as you know what city you live in, the rest is automatic and like I said, it's been that way since before y2k.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreePhly 0 #25 October 26, 2009 QuoteI think you've missed the point. In Windows it's a client side thing. On a Mac, it's server side. As long as you know what city you live in, the rest is automatic and like I said, it's been that way since before y2k. What are you talking about? Apple had to release an update for daylight savings, just like MS did. The Client software (OSX) had to be patched with daylight savings information, just like Windows. Are you talking about time zones? Sorry, wrong conversation, we're talking about Daylight Savings. PhreePhly Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
