shah269 0 #1 October 16, 2009 Guys, gals I'm very sorry to bother every one. I have a doctors appointment in a few weeks regarding my leg. Thus far it is healing very well and very quickly. But I'm finding some conflicting information online and I could use some clarification. In order to go back to skydiving must the rod and the pins be removed or just the pins? A quick online search was inconclusive since most of the people seemed to be playing soccer. Again, I broke my tib and fib and I have a rod inserted into the bone with 3 pins holding it place. One on top and two on the bottom. Thanks in advance!Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #2 October 16, 2009 Nothing _needs_ to be removed. However, leaving any metal in place, particularly longer rods that finish close to a joint, will mean that the next time you biff it in, instead of a potentially easy breat to fix in the middle of the bone, the bone will break close to the joing (where the metal ends) creating a more complex injury to repair and heal from. I'm not a doctor, but I did stay in a Westin last night...Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #3 October 16, 2009 oooh ok! Yeah and I do have a huge 13in rod.....ladies......I wonder what my options are? I really do hope I'm allowed to jump again. Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CSpenceFLY 1 #4 October 16, 2009 Or if you bend the rod you are in for a hell of a time. Possibly loosing the leg. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mutumbo 0 #5 October 16, 2009 Quote Yeah and I do have a huge 13in rod.....ladies...... BWAHAHAThanatos340(on landing rounds)-- Landing procedure: Hand all the way up, Feet and Knees Together and PLF soon as you get bitch slapped by a planet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #6 October 16, 2009 Quote Or if you bend the rod you are in for a hell of a time. Possibly loosing the leg. ooohhh...yeah! NOT GOOD! OK ok...well may not be able to ski either I'll have to wait and see, it is a titanium rod, it's super thin.........we'll have to see.Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mutumbo 0 #7 October 16, 2009 the obviously safest idea is to wait to see what the doc says. then go from there. thats what id recommend.Thanatos340(on landing rounds)-- Landing procedure: Hand all the way up, Feet and Knees Together and PLF soon as you get bitch slapped by a planet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #8 October 16, 2009 Quote oooh ok! Yeah and I do have a huge 13in rod.....ladies......I wonder what my options are? I really do hope I'm allowed to jump again. Having a rod in yer leg isn't the reason ya should quit. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #9 October 16, 2009 Quote the obviously safest idea is to wait to see what the doc says. then go from there. thats what id recommend. That is the plan! I'm just hoping for good news. I'm feeling better and better every day and I can now put 100% weight on the bum leg, but I still walk a little gimpy. Here is hoping for the best!Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mutumbo 0 #10 October 16, 2009 i have no clue if it would help or not but are you doing any sort of physical therapy? that might be good as well. . .Thanatos340(on landing rounds)-- Landing procedure: Hand all the way up, Feet and Knees Together and PLF soon as you get bitch slapped by a planet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 5 #11 October 16, 2009 Quote Or if you bend the rod you are in for a hell of a time. Possibly loosing the leg. You sure? A-bent a rod in a motoX biff, no loss of leg, no nothing except removal/replacement. B-my pelvis has already bent the 12" bolt in several directions. My biggest concern is that another biff on the pelvis will result in worse shatter around the bolt. No matter how you look at it, an accident on the same body part that has metal in it will likely be worse than it would have been without the metal part. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CSpenceFLY 1 #12 October 16, 2009 Quote the obviously safest idea is to wait to see what the doc says. then go from there. thats what id recommend. Nope, he needs to educate himself and make up his own mind. I had a Dr. tell me to never jump again after I fractured my back. Yet here I am 1800 jumps later. There are many people jumping with hardware. You are the one who has to live with your decision Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #13 October 16, 2009 Quote i have no clue if it would help or not but are you doing any sort of physical therapy? that might be good as well. . . Yoga mate! Yoga! The view is great, the practice calms the soul and strengthens the mind and body. Prior to the "OOOOH SHIT!" I was going to Yoga twice a week. As soon as I was given the OK I went back and started taking beginners classes twice a week. In three weeks I've regained a substantial amount of strength in my right leg and almost all the range of motion I lost due to not moving the leg for 6 weeks. And I'm hoping I'll be ok to go back to skiing this winter and to finish up my license this spring. We'll see what the doctor says.Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CSpenceFLY 1 #14 October 16, 2009 Did you miss the word possibly? If you are going to do something you should be willing to live with the worst thing that might happen. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mutumbo 0 #15 October 16, 2009 im not saying to blindly go with whatever the doc says, im saying that he did go through a shit ton of school to get to where hes at. jsut to CONSIDER the opinion. in the end he will be the one to live wiht the repercussions of it all.Thanatos340(on landing rounds)-- Landing procedure: Hand all the way up, Feet and Knees Together and PLF soon as you get bitch slapped by a planet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydog 2 #16 October 16, 2009 Jeez, talk about scare mongering....... Have had my metal in place for 5 years. Taken some hard hits and no problems. End result is if you break your fib then you can live without it. I have mine in and a friend has his out because it caused him pain and he could feel the screws and was uncomfortable...............Journey not destination..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #17 October 16, 2009 Quote End result is if you break your fib then you can live without it. . De Rod (sounds like a German porno) is living in my Tib not my Fib. The Fib is left alone and is pulled back in place via the muscles in your leg. I don't think I could live with out the Tib....i mean....then I would have no shins! Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flygirl1 0 #18 October 16, 2009 I had a compound tib/fib injury 2 years ago and got a rod and 5 screw's put in my tib. The doctor said that he was not going to take anything out unless it bothered me. About a year ago the screws at the bottom were causing me some discomfort and my fracture was not fully healing. I got those screws removed so there could be some pressure at the fracture site helping it to heal. The doctor said I should not have the rod out since it would be a major surgery and take several months to heal as appose to a short time for just the screws. I decided to not have the rod taken out since I was really over being gimpy after 1 1/2 years of it. There is a higher risk of damaging a joint but, my doctor thought it was a better decision for me than risking taking the rod out witch would have been my 3rd surgery on that injury. I just got back to jumping this summer and aside form dealing with ongoing nerve damage from the initial injury the break has healed well and the rod and remaining screws don't bother me. I would just ask your doctor what is the best plan for you.Fly like a girl Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrewEckhardt 0 #19 October 16, 2009 Quote In order to go back to skydiving must the rod and the pins be removed or just the pins? My theory is that you want your long bones to break in their shaft instead of at the ends, because breaks in the middle can usually be repaired without lasting effects while damage to the ends can lead to bone spurs and permanent arthritis. Without any hard-ware, the weak point is in the shaft that you want to act as a fuse. With a 12mm titanium rod up the middle and full-strength bone around it the shaft is no longer the weak point. My current orthopaedic surgeon said flat out not to jump with the nail. So I'm going to get it out after the bone graft to patch the hole heals. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YahooLV 0 #20 October 16, 2009 ok....here's my story. I broke my tib/fib in April 04, 6 months to the day..I was jumping again. I worked my ass off in PT an ddid everything I could to heal quickly. I ate right, and worked hard. I jumped for 4 1/2 years with all hardware inside. It started to hurt and I never could run without a gimpy look to it. If fact, almost everyone on the dropzone knew me...from my run. With increasing pain, I finally decided to get it out. Good thing I did, too. My original doc said, "it'll never have to come out, oh...btw, you'll never jump again". The timing was right and I found a great doc to get it out for me. Like I said..good thing I did. My bones had started to grow over it...it took an hour to get it out. (thanks Angel and Brooke). Now...still jumping, NO pain..and I can run like a cheetah! I took 6 months off from the initial trauma to heal, and could jump after 3 months of removal trauma. The removal process is not even close to the pain and agony of the first! Pinnochio is a human, again!http://www.curtisglennphotography.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #21 October 16, 2009 Thanks guys for the info! Greatly appreciated!Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyBastard 0 #22 October 16, 2009 i had the same metalwork you have shah, i continued riding bikes whilst it was in, had a fairly minor accident, compressed the leg enough for one of the securing pins/screws to be broken in half. they left on half of the screw near my ankle in there when they removed the rod, couldn't get it out, it's still there today. oddly my legs are still the same length. *lopes off*Dude #320 "Superstitious" is just a polite way of saying "incredibly fucking stupid". DONK! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #23 October 22, 2009 Good news! I'm a FREAK! My doctor has never seen any one heal as fast as I have! I would like to thank Guinness for making this possible! Better news! I have Rod 2.0 in my leg. So this means that the rod is a keeper so no need to go back to have it removed.Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyBastard 0 #24 October 23, 2009 that's good because six weeks after the rod was taken out of my leg my knee went septic and burst, er, yeah it was lovely. took ten months to heal and i have a yucky scar :(Dude #320 "Superstitious" is just a polite way of saying "incredibly fucking stupid". DONK! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #25 October 23, 2009 We did speak about removal, but then the question was why? These new rods are designed to move with the bone and if removed I would then have to go back into an air cast for 6 weeks undoing all the work I had just done! The only thing he suggested was that if shoes bothered my lower pins he could remove them. And he suggested I have a talk with a physical therapist. No need for PT since I'm doing Yoga but still just a talk to see how I could maybe help speed things up. I have to admit as an engineer I'm very surprised and amazed at this little rod and how it is produced and how it functions.Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
