NickDG 23 #1 October 13, 2009 We spend millions of dollars to land a Space Shuttle. The Russians use good spotting, a pack job, and a freshly plowed field. . . NickD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites airtwardo 7 #2 October 13, 2009 I thought they were perfecting the 'in air snag it fly by' thing? ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites quade 4 #3 October 13, 2009 Actually, the US perfected that decades ago as a method to retrieve satellite photos. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mid-air_retrievalquade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites quade 4 #4 October 13, 2009 QuoteThe Russians use good spotting, a pack job, and a freshly plowed field. . . And it should also be noted they've had more than what I would consider a reasonable rate of total malfunctions. To date, I think the US has only had one re-entry mishap resulting in the loss of life.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites cocheese 0 #5 October 13, 2009 How much do you think NASA would charge to pack your sport rig? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites fossg 0 #6 October 13, 2009 NASA also spent a lot of money to devise an ink pen that would function in a weightless enviroment. They asked the Russians how they overcame that problem. The Russians said "we used pencils" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites quade 4 #7 October 13, 2009 QuoteNASA also spent a lot of money to devise an ink pen that would function in a weightless enviroment. They asked the Russians how they overcame that problem. The Russians said "we used pencils" Snopesquade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnMitchell 16 #8 October 13, 2009 The Russians have shown themselves to be very practical, and rarely discard something that works. Note that they use retro rockets to soften the landing. Our capsules, of course, used water landings to soften the blow. We'll be returning to capsule technology soon. It's proven, reliable, and I'm guessing cheaper per seat than using the shuttle. The shuttle, although a magnificent feat of engineering, has not lived up to it's claim to be a "space truck." It's a high strung Ferrari of a flying machine, and has some disastrous failure modes, as the world has seen. Some day we'll return to orbit in winged machines, but some major technological advances need to happen to make it the mode of choice again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites fossg 0 #9 October 13, 2009 Well .. I guess I can retire that story. Should have known.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites quade 4 #10 October 13, 2009 The irony is that a couple years before we shot Alan Shepard into space in a Mercury capsule, we already had a winged rocket ship that was being tested to put men into space; the X-15. It would have been interesting to see where space flight had gone if NASA had chosen to go down the path already in place rather than strapping men onto ICBMs. Unfortunately, that was really part of the point of the earliest days of the Mercury program anyway; to prove to the Russians we could deliver our weapons around the globe.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites whatthehell 0 #11 October 13, 2009 Just a matter of time until we can re enter without a craft. http://www.popsci.com/military-aviation-space/article/2007-06/high-dive Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites airdvr 210 #12 October 13, 2009 Von Braun was against the moon missions. He wanted an orbiting space station which would have been much easier and cost effective to launch missions. He thought the moon program was a dog and pony show.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites pcramil 0 #13 October 13, 2009 QuoteJust a matter of time until we can re enter without a craft. http://www.popsci.com/military-aviation-space/article/2007-06/high-dive clicky! edited to add: THAT'S BADASS!! so how do i volunteer to be a lab rat in the suit?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites CSpenceFLY 1 #14 October 13, 2009 It was. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites warpedskydiver 0 #15 October 13, 2009 QuoteActually, the US perfected that decades ago as a method to retrieve satellite photos. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mid-air_retrieval Yep that was the Corona program Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites RhondaLea 4 #16 October 13, 2009 Quote How much do you think NASA would charge to pack your sport rig? For a sport rig, the crane isn't be required, so you can deduct that from their bill.If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites wolfriverjoe 1,523 #17 October 13, 2009 QuoteVon Braun was against the moon missions. He wanted an orbiting space station which would have been much easier and cost effective to launch missions. He thought the moon program was a dog and pony show. Agree with CSpence. It was. THIS Book, Dark Side of the Moon is about the real reasons we went to the moon. Mostly as a political "Dog and Pony" show."There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy "~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites justinb138 0 #18 October 13, 2009 Thanks for that, I'll have to read it after I get done with "Pride and Prejudice and Zombies". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites councilman24 37 #19 October 13, 2009 Don't know but I've seen them packing the solid rocket booster recovery chutes. Including the bowling alley size washing machine and dryer and the hydralic ram used to pack the container.PIA symposium got a tour in 91 or 93. I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
airtwardo 7 #2 October 13, 2009 I thought they were perfecting the 'in air snag it fly by' thing? ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #3 October 13, 2009 Actually, the US perfected that decades ago as a method to retrieve satellite photos. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mid-air_retrievalquade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #4 October 13, 2009 QuoteThe Russians use good spotting, a pack job, and a freshly plowed field. . . And it should also be noted they've had more than what I would consider a reasonable rate of total malfunctions. To date, I think the US has only had one re-entry mishap resulting in the loss of life.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cocheese 0 #5 October 13, 2009 How much do you think NASA would charge to pack your sport rig? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fossg 0 #6 October 13, 2009 NASA also spent a lot of money to devise an ink pen that would function in a weightless enviroment. They asked the Russians how they overcame that problem. The Russians said "we used pencils" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #7 October 13, 2009 QuoteNASA also spent a lot of money to devise an ink pen that would function in a weightless enviroment. They asked the Russians how they overcame that problem. The Russians said "we used pencils" Snopesquade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 16 #8 October 13, 2009 The Russians have shown themselves to be very practical, and rarely discard something that works. Note that they use retro rockets to soften the landing. Our capsules, of course, used water landings to soften the blow. We'll be returning to capsule technology soon. It's proven, reliable, and I'm guessing cheaper per seat than using the shuttle. The shuttle, although a magnificent feat of engineering, has not lived up to it's claim to be a "space truck." It's a high strung Ferrari of a flying machine, and has some disastrous failure modes, as the world has seen. Some day we'll return to orbit in winged machines, but some major technological advances need to happen to make it the mode of choice again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fossg 0 #9 October 13, 2009 Well .. I guess I can retire that story. Should have known.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #10 October 13, 2009 The irony is that a couple years before we shot Alan Shepard into space in a Mercury capsule, we already had a winged rocket ship that was being tested to put men into space; the X-15. It would have been interesting to see where space flight had gone if NASA had chosen to go down the path already in place rather than strapping men onto ICBMs. Unfortunately, that was really part of the point of the earliest days of the Mercury program anyway; to prove to the Russians we could deliver our weapons around the globe.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whatthehell 0 #11 October 13, 2009 Just a matter of time until we can re enter without a craft. http://www.popsci.com/military-aviation-space/article/2007-06/high-dive Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #12 October 13, 2009 Von Braun was against the moon missions. He wanted an orbiting space station which would have been much easier and cost effective to launch missions. He thought the moon program was a dog and pony show.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pcramil 0 #13 October 13, 2009 QuoteJust a matter of time until we can re enter without a craft. http://www.popsci.com/military-aviation-space/article/2007-06/high-dive clicky! edited to add: THAT'S BADASS!! so how do i volunteer to be a lab rat in the suit?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #15 October 13, 2009 QuoteActually, the US perfected that decades ago as a method to retrieve satellite photos. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mid-air_retrieval Yep that was the Corona program Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RhondaLea 4 #16 October 13, 2009 Quote How much do you think NASA would charge to pack your sport rig? For a sport rig, the crane isn't be required, so you can deduct that from their bill.If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #17 October 13, 2009 QuoteVon Braun was against the moon missions. He wanted an orbiting space station which would have been much easier and cost effective to launch missions. He thought the moon program was a dog and pony show. Agree with CSpence. It was. THIS Book, Dark Side of the Moon is about the real reasons we went to the moon. Mostly as a political "Dog and Pony" show."There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy "~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justinb138 0 #18 October 13, 2009 Thanks for that, I'll have to read it after I get done with "Pride and Prejudice and Zombies". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
councilman24 37 #19 October 13, 2009 Don't know but I've seen them packing the solid rocket booster recovery chutes. Including the bowling alley size washing machine and dryer and the hydralic ram used to pack the container.PIA symposium got a tour in 91 or 93. I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
