popeyefireman 0 #1 July 12, 2005 Okay I did a search and couldnt see anything, so maybe it deep in some thread somewhere, but here it goes. How long does ZP stay slippery? Now I know there is different ZP out there so for some help it is a Safire2 from Icarus. But if you have any idea on any canopy that would be great. "I Yam what I Yam" I am not afriad to die, only to die without living. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FFAddict 0 #2 July 12, 2005 Im certainly no expert, but when i bought my new canopy (pilot) i was advised to get it packed for me for the first 50 or so jumps to get rid of the worst "slipperyness" (if thats a word!!) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anvilbrother 0 #3 July 12, 2005 ditto. Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bch7773 0 #4 July 12, 2005 that totally depends on how its treated... leaving it in sun, dragging it, or jumping it in really sandy places will degrade the fabric faster. and it all depends on how you define slippery... its all relative. MB 3528, RB 1182 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lowie 0 #5 July 13, 2005 My ZP is still slippery after 40 jumps but it's alot less slippery than when it was brand new. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #6 July 13, 2005 The least slippery ZP fabric is made by Gelvenor Fabric Mills in South Africa. Gelvenor still calendarizes (pressing with hot rollers) their fabric before coating it with silicone. Perseverance (Great Britain) and most of the ?American mills (i.e. Performance Textiles) just silicones the bejezuz out of their fabric, making it really slippery. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
katzurki 0 #7 July 13, 2005 How I love your casual replies full of precious information... :) Is any one process necessarily better than the other? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joellercoaster 6 #8 July 14, 2005 Would there be any hints as to which canopy manufacturers use fabric made at said mills? South Africa might faintly imply Aerodyne, but then again it might mean anyone at all. Or nobody -- "I'll tell you how all skydivers are judged, . They are judged by the laws of physics." - kkeenan "You jump out, pull the string and either live or die. What's there to be good at? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
feuergnom 29 #9 July 14, 2005 well if you don't like zp go get a f111 canopy - packs easy but flys like shit after 200 jumps otherwise: live with it edit: als for gelvenor fabric - it is used to make nitros packs easy from jump # 1 The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle dudeist skydiver # 666 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joellercoaster 6 #10 July 14, 2005 If only I was going to be flying one from jump #1 (or any time in the next few years) too Still, worth knowing. Like everything I spose.-- "I'll tell you how all skydivers are judged, . They are judged by the laws of physics." - kkeenan "You jump out, pull the string and either live or die. What's there to be good at? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
feuergnom 29 #11 July 14, 2005 you wouldn't want to fly a nitro right now - the largest is a 150. get some jumps under your belt and if you plan to downsize to a 150 somewhere in the future demo one - you'll love it from the first moment *i hope this doesn't get me banned for shameless advertising*The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle dudeist skydiver # 666 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #12 July 14, 2005 QuoteWould there be any hints as to which canopy manufacturers use fabric made at said mills? South Africa might faintly imply Aerodyne, but then again it might mean anyone at all. Or nobody Older Aerodyns, like my triathlon, use it. A few years ago they switched over. My understanding is that after a 1000 or so jumps, it will become a bit more porous. Long past when I'm oing to worry about it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlindBrick 0 #13 July 14, 2005 QuoteHow long does ZP stay slippery? Now I know there is different ZP out there so for some help it is a Safire2 from Icarus. I talked with the Icarus service center this afternoon and they said it will stay slippery for about 100 jumps. -Blind"If you end up in an alligator's jaws, naked, you probably did something to deserve it." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites