councilman24 37 #1 September 12, 2009 Nope, not running from the law. We had a charity event today in support of the families of fallen officers and Taser was there to do demos. Full 5 secs. Not a lot of fun while it was going on but immediate recovery. Not as bad as I expected. I went first as a City Councilman and an old fat man to shame the police cadets that were there into going through with it.I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #2 September 12, 2009 I've Tased and peppered others, but been lucky enough to never recieve....Had to suck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
councilman24 37 #3 September 12, 2009 I was talking to the recruits there and found out that not all departments require Taser armed officers to have been Tased. After going through it I think this is a mistake. It certainly changed my opinion of what it was going to be like. Some like I imagined and some not. I guess I'd advocate anyone, but especially officers, that carries a Taser to have experienced it. I'd like to try it again to see what I could do during it. Probably not much but I did conciously change from yelling OOOOOOOOOOO to STOP,STOP,STOP.... So brain and vocal cords still worked.It was nowhere as bad as I expected. Not that it didn't hurt or I could do anything but it just wasn't all that bad. Now pepper spray? That I'll pass on. I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virgin-burner 1 #4 September 12, 2009 dont they only taze you with 50'000 instead of 100'000 volts!? doesnt change the fact you've had the balls to step up tough! “Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 8 #5 September 12, 2009 Yeah, tazers suck... But I am federally certified to carry/use them now. Im so happy that its a lifetime cert. Quotedont they only taze you with 50'000 instead of 100'000 volts!? doesnt change the fact you've had the balls to step up tough! The tazers that most cops carry now use 'Neuro Muscular Incapacitation' Im not sure voltage is a big difference, but damn it sucks! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Px_N2WLE1yo&feature=related When we got our certifications, they told us that the only difference between this one and the ones they hit us with was they had a higher pulse per second than the 5 pps on the X26 that cops around here carry."I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bullin82 0 #6 September 12, 2009 MMM taser marks..i volunteered to be tased when we were training for this deploment, since we work with detainees. I will take that over the 8% OC spray to the face anyday. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 8 #7 September 12, 2009 The stuff they hit us with was 2% OC, but it was 5.3 million scovial heating units... for comparison, the bear spray is 10 million SHU and that would blind a human."I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LuckyMcSwervy 0 #8 September 12, 2009 "Don't tase me bro!" Always be kinder than you feel. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 8 #9 September 12, 2009 Quote "Don't tase me bro!" One of the staff guys that filmed our OC and tazing said that on the video."I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #10 September 12, 2009 Quote MMM taser marks..i volunteered to be tased when we were training for this deploment, since we work with detainees. I will take that over the 8% OC spray to the face anyday. I carry 15 most times.....Puts Big men, on their knees....I'm too old for bar fights anymore! Young pups can prove thier manhood on someone else! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 8 #11 September 12, 2009 Quote Quote MMM taser marks..i volunteered to be tased when we were training for this deploment, since we work with detainees. I will take that over the 8% OC spray to the face anyday. I carry 15 most times.....Puts Big men, on their knees....I'm too old for bar fights anymore! Young pups can prove thier manhood on someone else! Its not the percentage that gets ya, its the SHU that determines how hot it is. (but a higher percentage will probably suck anyways) 15% of the crap they got us with, probably feel like your face is melting off and hell, it might actually do it. I know some of us got 1st degree burns from ours."I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikey348 0 #12 September 13, 2009 I have sprayed many officers with OC and been sprayed as well many times. I recently took a five second ride. OMG!! The only thing on my mind was MAKE IT STOP!! I'll take pepper spray anyday. Point that Taser at me and I will shoot you!!! "Admit nothing, deny everything, and demand proof" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 8 #13 September 13, 2009 QuoteI have sprayed many officers with OC and been sprayed as well many times. I recently took a five second ride. OMG!! The only thing on my mind was MAKE IT STOP!! I'll take pepper spray anyday. Point that Taser at me and I will shoot you!!! We joked in my class, someone pulls a gun, resist... someone pulls a tazer... comply."I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nataly 38 #14 September 13, 2009 Can you describe what it felt like?? It looks incredibly unpleasant.."There is no problem so bad you can't make it worse." - Chris Hadfield « Sors le martinet et flagelle toi indigne contrôleuse de gestion. » - my boss Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
captain1976 0 #15 September 13, 2009 I don't think tasers are a joke. Over 300 people have died from being tased. Even a police officer has been charged with manslaughter for the death of a man he shot with a taser and charges are being considered in another incident. For those who have to get tased as a job requirement, I would tell their boss to shove it.Too much risk of cardiac arrest to be playing with it. I do believe in them for self defense, but cops should stick with the old night stick or get more backup and manhandle the suspect. What ever happened to the rubber bullet?You live more in the few minutes of skydiving than many people live in their lifetime Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akarunway 1 #16 September 13, 2009 Quote "Don't tase me bro!" http://www.pe.com/localnews/riverside/stories/PE_News_Local_S_taser03.3cf2934.html Fuckin pigs.I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 5 #17 September 13, 2009 Kinda fun, isn't it? But...I'm confident there is a big difference between knowing the tasing is coming, and having it come as a surprise while amped up on adrenaline. My elder brother is chief of law enforcement and former president of the Utah Peace Officer's Association. At their fundraisers each year for the Fallen Officer memorial, they allow people to be tased for a donation. I've gone every year. They do have you sign a waiver, not much different than skydiving. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #18 September 13, 2009 Now you have something in common with Peter Shankman - ntrprnr. "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beerlight 0 #19 September 13, 2009 Quote Nope, not running from the law.We had a charity event today in support of the families of fallen officers and Taser was there to do demos. Full 5 secs. Not a lot of fun while it was going on but immediate recovery. Not as bad as I expected. I went first as a City Councilman and an old fat man to shame the police cadets that were there into going through with it. Heard that shit hurts. Although I don't see why they should have to be tased just to carry. They carry a gun too, they need to be shot also? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #20 September 13, 2009 Quote I don't think tasers are a joke. Over 300 people have died from being tased. Even a police officer has been charged with manslaughter for the death of a man he shot with a taser and charges are being considered in another incident. For those who have to get tased as a job requirement, I would tell their boss to shove it.Too much risk of cardiac arrest to be playing with it. I do believe in them for self defense, but cops should stick with the old night stick or get more backup and manhandle the suspect. What ever happened to the rubber bullet? You ever been in the middle of no where, with no back up,within minutes, and had to deal with a "dusted" person? (angel dust) Ivan Henry told me about a night he faced a large dusted suspect, that had already pulled out taser darts twice...Ivan took him down....I am very proud and happy that Ivan is my friend!most cops would have shot the guy! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 8 #21 September 13, 2009 Quote Quote Nope, not running from the law.We had a charity event today in support of the families of fallen officers and Taser was there to do demos. Full 5 secs. Not a lot of fun while it was going on but immediate recovery. Not as bad as I expected. I went first as a City Councilman and an old fat man to shame the police cadets that were there into going through with it. Heard that shit hurts. Although I don't see why they should have to be tased just to carry. They carry a gun too, they need to be shot also? So you know what they will experience, what they can and cannot do, and know what it feels like so you dont keep that trigger pulled and make their heart explode."I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SWATcop 0 #22 September 13, 2009 ***Over 300 people have died from being tased.[/ FALSE I have been tased, OCed, CSed and a few others. I won't be volunteering for the taser again. Kevin Muff Brother #4041 Team Dirty Sanchez #467 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #23 September 13, 2009 Quote ***Over 300 people have died from being tased.[/ FALSE I have been tased, OCed, CSed and a few others. I won't be volunteering for the taser again. False you say? There's been at least 3 deaths alone in the Birmingham, AL area from police use of tasers in the past 5 years. 300 people nationwide would not be unreasonable since tasers were first used. JMHO"Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SWATcop 0 #24 September 13, 2009 Quote False you say? There's been at least 3 deaths alone in the Birmingham, AL area from police use of tasers in the past 5 years. 300 people nationwide would not be unreasonable since tasers were first used. JMHO You are obviously more of an expert than me. I am only trained in its use, have been tased, have used the M-26 and X-26 numerous times and carried one every day since around 2000. Read this atleast you will be an informed expert: http://www.taser.com/company/pressroom/Documents/State%20of%20ECDs%20Jeff%20Ho%20MD.pdf For what its worth, I was a cop years before the taser. With all the controversy drummed up by the media I would be happy to turn the taser in and go back to the old way of doing things.Kevin Muff Brother #4041 Team Dirty Sanchez #467 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riddler 0 #25 September 13, 2009 QuoteI don't think tasers are a joke. Over 300 people have died from being tased. Even a police officer has been charged with manslaughter for the death of a man he shot with a taser and charges are being considered in another incident. For those who have to get tased as a job requirement, I would tell their boss to shove it.Too much risk of cardiac arrest to be playing with it. I do believe in them for self defense, but cops should stick with the old night stick or get more backup and manhandle the suspect. What ever happened to the rubber bullet? I agree. Requiring officers to get tased is like requiring them to get stung by a bee. You never know who is allergic and may die from the incident. Some people have bad wiring and will not recover from a tasing. Rubber bullets can be lethal too. Both are preferable to shooting a person with a bullet, since the risk of death is significantly less. I think tasers have a place in police enforcement - but they should not be used lightly, as in a charity event.Trapped on the surface of a sphere. XKCD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
