Misternatural 0 #76 August 19, 2009 Fine....I admit it, I got a central vac that blasts the dusty air outside my house. But I swear I use it only for allergy reasons and before people visit...and I installed, plumbed and wired the system myself, so I should get points for that. Beware of the collateralizing and monetization of your desires. D S #3.1415 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #77 August 19, 2009 Quote Fine....I admit it, I got a central vac that blasts the dusty air outside my house. But I swear I use it only for allergy reasons and before people visit...and I installed, plumbed and wired the system myself, so I should get points for that. Actually - you get your guy card back for that - That is classified under both "Gadget" and "Timesaver" - so you're ok there.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Misternatural 0 #78 August 19, 2009 Thanks man....I appreciate that ...and I'll put in the good word if you get caught having a sensitivity seizure or something here. Beware of the collateralizing and monetization of your desires. D S #3.1415 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heatmiser 0 #79 August 19, 2009 37000 posts, not happening What you say is reflective of your knowledge...HOW ya say it is reflective of your experience. Airtwardo Someone's going to be spanked! Hopefully, it will be me. Skymama Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OlympiaStoica 0 #80 August 19, 2009 Quote dont get all defensive now.. but thats how you seem to like to appear.. i kind of started to like you, altough you're all sick and twisted.. some might say, you're a bit like me! i'm disagreeing on most of the stuff you come up with, sick and twiisted, but hey, to each their own i always say.. You didn't just say that, did you? O Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #81 August 19, 2009 Quote Quote dont get all defensive now.. but thats how you seem to like to appear.. i kind of started to like you, altough you're all sick and twisted.. some might say, you're a bit like me! i'm disagreeing on most of the stuff you come up with, sick and twiisted, but hey, to each their own i always say.. You didn't just say that, did you? O Tempermental today aren't we.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OlympiaStoica 0 #82 August 19, 2009 Quote I'll have to side with the BS call. I was doing ALL of the housework including cooking, cleaning, laundry and yardwork. When my wife got home from work, I had already helped the kids with homework and had dinner ready. I got up early work out and had breakfast going before I ever woke her and the kids. I made decent money and paid all the bills without comment. I couldn't figure out why I was being ignored in the bedroom until the day I came in and found someone else's uniform in the living room and a naked guy in the closet. I call BS on the whole concept. But I may be a little biased. I can tell you that NOT helping with house work will certainly lead to NOT getting any from me. For 10 years I did everything … and I mean everything … go win six figure “bread”, clean, cook, shop, pay bills, paint, plan dinner parties, plan our vacations, mow the lawn, shovel the snow, wash the cars, do the oil changes … I mean, fucking everything. I started being interested in sex less and less - duh, I was exhausted. So, the day that I got confirmation he is romancing and screwing everyone but me, he justified it with the classic “you didn’t put out enough”. Well … duh … see above. So, who was at fault? Him, for not treating me as an equal and share our domestic responsibilities so that I have time to want sex? Or me, for not being superhuman and fulfilling all of my “good wife” duties? “Women’s propaganda” or not, the article makes a few good points. Most women I know will get turned on by a guy who helps out around the home. One of my biggest turn ons is a man who can find his way around the kitchen … and doesn’t need written instructions to boil an egg, like my ex-husband did/does. O Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #83 August 19, 2009 I agree with OlympiaStoica, 100%+ It's about respect and equality. Be it in sex or in cleaning the bathroom. A woman shouldn't put out as a reward and a man should not expect for doing nothing.Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Misternatural 0 #84 August 19, 2009 >until the day I came in and found someone else's uniform in the living room and a naked guy in the closet. dude....that sux Around here we call that "the longest yard" cuz running across the yard with your clothes in your hands while lead pellets fill the air around you makes the getaway seem like it takes forever. Beware of the collateralizing and monetization of your desires. D S #3.1415 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnDeere 0 #85 August 20, 2009 Quote >>Hand over one of your man cards In the Phish band......Jon Fishman the drummer plays a vacuum cleaner with his face....funny as hell. He uses a vintage Electrolux. They are also good for house cleaning.......but with all those farm animals you keep in your house I can see where that might be a problem. Yea i tried to vacume the floors in my house once didnt work to well............ dirt just dosent come cleanNothing opens like a Deere! You ignorant fool! Checks are for workers! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnDeere 0 #86 August 20, 2009 Quote Around here we call that "the longest yard" cuz running across the yard with your clothes in your hands while lead pellets fill the air around you makes the getaway seem like it takes forever. Thats some funny shit right there!Nothing opens like a Deere! You ignorant fool! Checks are for workers! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #87 August 20, 2009 There is also the obvious solution - apartments. Move in, live there for 2 years, it becomes cluttered, then you move. The cleaning solution - avoidance. Sure, they get a $50 cleaning deposit, but it's a matter of how much your time is worth. If you cleaned the normal amount... say 1 hour a month. Then, that's nearly 24 hours over the course of 2 years, or about $2 an hour. Nobody works for that. It's all about the math. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bolas 5 #88 August 20, 2009 Quote So, who was at fault? Him, for not treating me as an equal and share our domestic responsibilities so that I have time to want sex? Or me, for not being superhuman and fulfilling all of my “good wife” duties? Like everything else in the world, there is no one thing or one person at fault. While I agree partially with: Quote Him, for not treating me as an equal and share our domestic responsibilities so that I have time to want sex? This one is way off: Quote Or me, for not being superhuman and fulfilling all of my “good wife” duties. I'd say more it was partially your fault for putting up with that sort of behavior. While it's understandable why you thought you should, you didn't have to do any of that if you didn't feel it was reciprocated or appreciated. If you didn't want to argue about all of those tasks, you could just say that you were going to get a maid, gardner, chef, etc. and you two could split the costs so you'd both have more free time. If he balked, propose to split the jobs with him. Quote One of my biggest turn ons is a man who can find his way around the kitchen … and doesn’t need written instructions to boil an egg, like my ex-husband did/does. O Unless they break tequila glasses... Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Misternatural 0 #89 August 20, 2009 Yeah I know that trick My uncle once told me " Listen, if you don't want to do something- do a crappy job, you'll never get asked again"Beware of the collateralizing and monetization of your desires. D S #3.1415 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #90 August 20, 2009 You know what works? Just get naked.....Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Misternatural 0 #91 August 20, 2009 >You know what works? Just get naked good one OK shlongmaster slim i got one for ya- Nude beekeeping......... you should try it Beware of the collateralizing and monetization of your desires. D S #3.1415 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #92 August 20, 2009 Quote >You know what works? Just get naked good one OK shlongmaster slim i got one for ya- Nude beekeeping......... you should try it Whatever - Nude Sand Surfing!I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Misternatural 0 #93 August 20, 2009 >Whatever - Nude Sand Surfing! Phone call for Sandy Crack.......is there a Sandy Crack here? Beware of the collateralizing and monetization of your desires. D S #3.1415 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #94 August 20, 2009 Quote >Whatever - Nude Sand Surfing! Phone call for Sandy Crack.......is there a Sandy Crack here? Man - hittin' that would be like going to bed with a shot blaster.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OlympiaStoica 0 #95 August 20, 2009 Quote Quote So, who was at fault? Him, for not treating me as an equal and share our domestic responsibilities so that I have time to want sex? Or me, for not being superhuman and fulfilling all of my “good wife” duties? Like everything else in the world, there is no one thing or one person at fault. While I agree partially with: Quote Him, for not treating me as an equal and share our domestic responsibilities so that I have time to want sex? This one is way off: Quote Or me, for not being superhuman and fulfilling all of my “good wife” duties. I'd say more it was partially your fault for putting up with that sort of behavior. While it's understandable why you thought you should, you didn't have to do any of that if you didn't feel it was reciprocated or appreciated. If you didn't want to argue about all of those tasks, you could just say that you were going to get a maid, gardner, chef, etc. and you two could split the costs so you'd both have more free time. If he balked, propose to split the jobs with him. For a big dork, you speak awefuly intelligent sometimes ... All kidding aside, yes ... I believe it is my fault for putting up with it for way too long. I loved him and I thought that only if I could do more and work harder, maybe ... just maybe ... he'd love me back (and one day will show it.) I did get tired of arguing about sharing the tasks after a while. I recall his reaction when I created this simple spreadsheet - it had my name, his name and a list of domestic tasks ... we put check marks under who does what ... he is a venture capitalis/banker so I thought he'll understand numbers more than anything. I had 27 tasks I did on regular basis ... he had 1 (taking the trash out) ... and he'd only do it if I reminded him 20 times, which means I was still managing it. Oh ... the joys of being maried ... all this talk makes me appreciate being single. The sad part about life is that by the time we've learned all of our lessons, we're old ... and we die ... O Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slcooper 0 #96 August 20, 2009 Quote Quote Quote So, who was at fault? Him, for not treating me as an equal and share our domestic responsibilities so that I have time to want sex? Or me, for not being superhuman and fulfilling all of my “good wife” duties? Like everything else in the world, there is no one thing or one person at fault. While I agree partially with: Quote Him, for not treating me as an equal and share our domestic responsibilities so that I have time to want sex? This one is way off: Quote Or me, for not being superhuman and fulfilling all of my “good wife” duties. I'd say more it was partially your fault for putting up with that sort of behavior. While it's understandable why you thought you should, you didn't have to do any of that if you didn't feel it was reciprocated or appreciated. If you didn't want to argue about all of those tasks, you could just say that you were going to get a maid, gardner, chef, etc. and you two could split the costs so you'd both have more free time. If he balked, propose to split the jobs with him. For a big dork, you speak awefuly intelligent sometimes ... All kidding aside, yes ... I believe it is my fault for putting up with it for way too long. I loved him and I thought that only if I could do more and work harder, maybe ... just maybe ... he'd love me back (and one day will show it.) I did get tired of arguing about sharing the tasks after a while. I recall his reaction when I created this simple spreadsheet - it had my name, his name and a list of domestic tasks ... we put check marks under who does what ... he is a venture capitalis/banker so I thought he'll understand numbers more than anything. I had 27 tasks I did on regular basis ... he had 1 (taking the trash out) ... and he'd only do it if I reminded him 20 times, which means I was still managing it. Oh ... the joys of being maried ... all this talk makes me appreciate being single. The sad part about life is that by the time we've learned all of our lessons, we're old ... and we die ... O Didn't you live together before you got married?Why would anyone jump out of a perfectly good airplane? Cause the door was open! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #97 August 20, 2009 Just for you Oly.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Misternatural 0 #98 August 20, 2009 Man - hittin' that would be like going to bed with a shot blaster. Bwahahajust ask Billyvance.........says he's played beach blanket bingo before. Beware of the collateralizing and monetization of your desires. D S #3.1415 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OlympiaStoica 0 #99 August 20, 2009 Quote Just for you Oly. Why don't you come here and administer that in person ... bring that stuffed peppers recipie you tried to entice me with earlier ... O Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #100 August 20, 2009 Quote Just for you Oly. Hay some girls are into that kind of thing....who am I to say no? Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
