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What constitutes an incident with an aircraft that is required to be reported to the FAA? Are there guidelines for this?
What you say is reflective of your knowledge...HOW ya say it is reflective of your experience. Airtwardo

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A. Incident (PTRS Code 1711/3711/5711 or 1712/3712/5712). An incident is defined as “an occurrence involving one or more aircraft in which a hazard or a potential hazard to safety is involved but not classified as an accident due to the degree of injury and/or extent of damage.” An incident could affect the safety of operations. This definition covers a broad range of events and may include the following:
· Damage to an aircraft (other than an accident);

· Runway incursion;

· Pilot deviations (PD); and

· Near midair collision (NMAC).
For the same reason I jump off a perfectly good diving board.

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It's only an incident if A-You damage the aircraft B-You damage a person C-It requires a rescue or D-Someone else saw it.



I agree - go with Don't ask Don't Tell. If you are really interested in the vagaries of what constitutes an aircraft incident Google the FAA Order 8020.11B
For the same reason I jump off a perfectly good diving board.

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I have NO faith in the collision avoidance systems in commercial passenger jets.

Wow that was close when another jet passed us by at the same altitude just a few wing spans away. I'm the only one on the plane that saw it i think.
The lady next to me wasn't sure to believe me or not.

Oh and how many skydivers have seen those big sharks in freefall? If i had exited the jump plane just 5 or 6 seconds earlier, i wouldn't be writing this.
Airtran almost took me out over Pahokee.:|



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I remember jumping at Skydive Dallas a few months ago, looking out the window on jumprun and seeing a jumbo flying across our approx exit point several thousand feet lower than us:S I excitedly pointed this out to one of the experienced jumpers, he responded with, "yeah, they come from that direction alot at about 10000 feet heading for DFW. Surreal to say the least. It was long past before our exit, but definitely a new sight picture for me.;)

What you say is reflective of your knowledge...HOW ya say it is reflective of your experience. Airtwardo

Someone's going to be spanked! Hopefully, it will be me. Skymama

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Had the same thing happen with a tow plane. The fucker took his downwind wide and us Lompoc skydivers are all trained to track away from the downwind leg. Threw out and noticed I was directly in the path of the plane while snivelling but a few hundred feet higher. Thankfully she opened about 100 feet higher than the tow plane.
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An accident is defined as an occurrence associated with the operation of an aircraft that takes place between the time any person boards the aircraft with the intention of flight and all such persons have disembarked, and in which any person suffers death or serious injury, or in which the aircraft receives substantial damage. An incident is an occurrence other than an accident that affects or could affect the safety of operations.

An incident is an occurrence other than an accident that affects or could affect the safety of operations.

Read further in the .pdf for what defines "substantial damage".

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http://www.pnl.gov/atmospheric/docs/ma530/appendix_e.pdf


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I've got a Student Video that I shot at Perris oen day, of a piper cub , flying right past my student , Me and the 2 jumpmaster saw it, but avoided freaking the student out!

Made for a memorable video for them though , the plane was so close that we could read the tail numbers even with my wide angle lens!

turned out to be a low timer pilot, wanted to show some friend of his where a dropzone was![:/]

I Alos got oen hell of a close up of a C130 cargo plane, making an emergency turn to avoid air traffic...he turned right over the DZ! Plenty of room between us, But them suckers are so big, even a hundred yards feels like touching them...

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>I have NO faith in the collision avoidance systems in commercial passenger jets.

>If i had exited the jump plane just 5 or 6 seconds earlier, i wouldn't be writing this.

TCAS only works if you have an ATC transponder. And in my experience, most skydivers do not carry one.

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>I have NO faith in the collision avoidance systems in commercial passenger jets.

>If i had exited the jump plane just 5 or 6 seconds earlier, i wouldn't be writing this.

TCAS only works if you have an ATC transponder. And in my experience, most skydivers do not carry one.



I've known a few that were big enough, thye should have!:D

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