agskyboard 0 #1 August 1, 2005 I wanted to see if people could give me some opinions on jumping with these four canopies. I'm wanting a canopy with a wing loading of around 1.05 as a first canopy. I haven't made a demo jump with any of these yet but I wanted to see what other people think. I want a manueverable yet forgiving canopy. Can somebody tell me what the performance differences will be between thse canopies. And would soimebody please tell me what the difference is between the Omni and Omega because they seem like the same canopy. Thanks, Justin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dragon2 2 #2 August 1, 2005 Why put the Pilot in there, a Spectre is more like the rest of your line-up? For a discussion about Omni and Omega see http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=1747762;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;forum_view=forum_view_collapsed;;page=unread#unread For the other canopies, do a search, they've been talked about hundreds of times.... ciel bleu, Saskia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeNReN 0 #3 August 1, 2005 1st...filling out some info on your profile will help with getting responces....dont need to post your mothers maiden name but some experiance info would be helpful. 2nd...always take any advise/oppions from online polls with a grain of salt and consult your instructors before making any decissions. 3rd...send me lots of money. 4th...I reciently had to make a similar decision about what canopy to buy...as a newbie to the sport it was not a easy choice....did a fair amout of research using the wonderful search function that is avaible on all the forums. 5th...I chose to buy a triathlon...seemed a logical choice for a good all around 1st canopy and my instructors endorsed it(made a substantial downsize)...they were leary of the pilot because of the downsize...but ok'ed the tri and also said that a spectre would also be suitable. 6th...send me money...now Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,075 #4 August 1, 2005 Tri - older canopy, decent flare, so-so glide Omega - tried one a while back, didn't like it. It didn't have the flare that the Spectre does, which is its primary competition. Pilot - considerably sportier than either of the ones above. Good first elliptical but _not_ good first canopy unless you get a lot of jumps on larger canopies first. A good progression might be navigator 260-nav 220 - tri 220 - tri 190 - Pilot 188 (depending on loading of course.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixlpr 0 #5 August 2, 2005 AFAK Pilot is _not_ elliptical. It's just tampered. Correct me, but I've read Pilot has the same panform like Solo (Student). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
agskyboard 0 #6 August 2, 2005 I just wanted to throw a 9 cell ZP in with all the 7's...I suppose now I need to try and decide between an Omni, Spectre, and Triathlon. From what I've heard, the Tri is much more forgiving and the spectre and omni are both more manueverable. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #7 August 2, 2005 I mentioned this in an earlier thread. Last year one of our junior jumpers was looking to buy a wingsuit-compatible canopy. He borrowed a used Triathlon for a few jumps and did not much like it. He borrowed a demo Omni and did not enjoy the landings. He ended up buying a Spectre and gets great landings on the days when he remembers to flare at the right height. Hee! Hee! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixlpr 0 #8 August 2, 2005 I love my Pilot and I have not tried any 7cell ZP yet, just F111 >200sqft. I prefer 9cell from the beginning though I`ve tried 7cell too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elisha 1 #9 August 2, 2005 QuoteI just wanted to throw a 9 cell ZP in with all the 7's...I suppose now I need to try and decide between an Omni, Spectre, and Triathlon. From what I've heard, the Tri is much more forgiving and the spectre and omni are both more manueverable. Of those, my vote: Spectre. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarkM 0 #10 August 2, 2005 QuoteAFAK Pilot is _not_ elliptical. It's just tampered. Correct me, but I've read Pilot has the same panform like Solo (Student). Pilot = Hornet = Sabre2, basically. That said, for a first time canopy I'd just buy a used Tri. They're a dime a dozen and a noob isn't going to notice the difference between any of those canopies. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixlpr 0 #11 August 2, 2005 Yeah, All square the same, basically. Do your homework! Check Faqtor. Why do they offer with 2 different line sets? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrBrant 0 #12 August 2, 2005 I fly a Tri 220 - well, my last 50jumps have been on it anyway, so i don't have much experience, but... - It opens very softly for me. (Although i've heard alot of other people complain about their snappy openings on theirs, so I'm not sure if it's canopy-to-canopy construction, or different sizes opening differently) - The landings are great. Tons of flare power. - Turns are quite slow though. It's not a responsive or snappy canopy. - Seems to have quite a high descent rate (vertical velocity), and not as long of a glide (horizontal) (compared to a sabre 210 a put about 5 jumps on) I'm told that's characteristic of a 7-cell, so i'm not sure how it would compare to, say, a spectre. - I can get some pretty decent skims on landing, (straight in, without any riser input) - I'm about 255 OTD. in short - it seems to be a very docile canopy, but you have to pay attention to your landings (bit of a different flare than a 9-cell, and remember the higher descent rate at full flight i mentioned earlier). It has served me (and is still serving me) VERY well as a first canopy. I've been quite happy with it. That being said, I, personally, would prefer a tapered 9-cell about the same size because of the longer glide, and snappier turns. (anybody got a sabre or pilot 210 they want to trade ) Just remember, as you read this, i'm new, and don't know shit. This has just been my personal observations and opinions. Good luck, and have fun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites MrBrant 0 #13 August 4, 2005 Quote- It opens very softly for me. just make sure you have the locking stows tight lesson learned Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites gjhdiver 0 #14 August 6, 2005 QuoteI wanted to see if people could give me some opinions on jumping with these four canopies. I'm wanting a canopy with a wing loading of around 1.05 as a first canopy. I haven't made a demo jump with any of these yet but I wanted to see what other people think. I want a manueverable yet forgiving canopy. Can somebody tell me what the performance differences will be between thse canopies. And would soimebody please tell me what the difference is between the Omni and Omega because they seem like the same canopy. Thanks, Justin None of above, not that's there's anything wrong with them. I'd reccomend a Spectre. Beautiful openings, soft landings, incredibly versatile, and great resale value. FS, swooping, accuracy, CRW and birdman all in one canopy, and you get a good chunk of change for them if you keep them well maintained when you want to downsize, if ever. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Deuce 1 #15 August 7, 2005 QuoteQuoteI wanted to see if people could give me some opinions on jumping with these four canopies. I'm wanting a canopy with a wing loading of around 1.05 as a first canopy. I haven't made a demo jump with any of these yet but I wanted to see what other people think. I want a manueverable yet forgiving canopy. Can somebody tell me what the performance differences will be between thse canopies. And would soimebody please tell me what the difference is between the Omni and Omega because they seem like the same canopy. Thanks, Justin None of above, not that's there's anything wrong with them. I'd reccomend a Spectre. Beautiful openings, soft landings, incredibly versatile, and great resale value. FS, swooping, accuracy, CRW and birdman all in one canopy, and you get a good chunk of change for them if you keep them well maintained when you want to downsize, if ever. Like Gareth would ever jump my Spectre 150's, even though they are both in the superior fit and comfort of an articulated Wing's rig with all-stainless, cut-in laterals and tie-die at minimal additional cost. Put the Spectre in that line-up and try it. That's my one and only canopy, now and forever. JP Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
MrBrant 0 #13 August 4, 2005 Quote- It opens very softly for me. just make sure you have the locking stows tight lesson learned Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gjhdiver 0 #14 August 6, 2005 QuoteI wanted to see if people could give me some opinions on jumping with these four canopies. I'm wanting a canopy with a wing loading of around 1.05 as a first canopy. I haven't made a demo jump with any of these yet but I wanted to see what other people think. I want a manueverable yet forgiving canopy. Can somebody tell me what the performance differences will be between thse canopies. And would soimebody please tell me what the difference is between the Omni and Omega because they seem like the same canopy. Thanks, Justin None of above, not that's there's anything wrong with them. I'd reccomend a Spectre. Beautiful openings, soft landings, incredibly versatile, and great resale value. FS, swooping, accuracy, CRW and birdman all in one canopy, and you get a good chunk of change for them if you keep them well maintained when you want to downsize, if ever. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deuce 1 #15 August 7, 2005 QuoteQuoteI wanted to see if people could give me some opinions on jumping with these four canopies. I'm wanting a canopy with a wing loading of around 1.05 as a first canopy. I haven't made a demo jump with any of these yet but I wanted to see what other people think. I want a manueverable yet forgiving canopy. Can somebody tell me what the performance differences will be between thse canopies. And would soimebody please tell me what the difference is between the Omni and Omega because they seem like the same canopy. Thanks, Justin None of above, not that's there's anything wrong with them. I'd reccomend a Spectre. Beautiful openings, soft landings, incredibly versatile, and great resale value. FS, swooping, accuracy, CRW and birdman all in one canopy, and you get a good chunk of change for them if you keep them well maintained when you want to downsize, if ever. Like Gareth would ever jump my Spectre 150's, even though they are both in the superior fit and comfort of an articulated Wing's rig with all-stainless, cut-in laterals and tie-die at minimal additional cost. Put the Spectre in that line-up and try it. That's my one and only canopy, now and forever. JP Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
