downwardspiral 0 #51 July 7, 2009 Do you know what the Army and Marines have in common? They both want to be Marines! sorry I couldn't resist. www.FourWheelerHB.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LouDiamond 1 #52 July 8, 2009 Quotetell him that if he goes to a college with Army ROTC he will get a free education (providing he recieves the scholarship which he most likely will) and when he graduates he will get to go to Ranger school no matter what. He WILL be given that opportunity seeing as every ROTC graduate does. Little advice, nothing is "free", you pay for it in one way or another."It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required" Some people dream about flying, I live my dream SKYMONKEY PUBLISHING Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #53 July 8, 2009 Sometimes you pay for the rest of your life.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #54 July 8, 2009 Quote Do you know what the Army and Marines have in common? You mean MARINES? Strong, Brave, Loyal and can't spell worth a shit either! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NiteQwill 0 #55 July 8, 2009 I can't really add anything more than what others have already said except for one thing... I would suggest that he take his ASVAB and score a little higher, 110+ is needed to enter a lot of Army schools later down the road. I truly have a lot of respect for folks who join the armed forces (as long as they're not screw ups and "I'm running away from my past life" types) in today's political climate. Nearly 8 years in and an E6, I've had the pleasure of serving, leading, and becoming friends with the best people in the world."Fail, fail again. Fail better." -Samuel Beckett Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
downwardspiral 0 #56 July 8, 2009 Quote Quote Do you know what the Army and Marines have in common? You mean MARINES? Strong, Brave, Loyal and can't spell worth a shit either! lol when I was in I was constantly accused of being... one of them smart marines. www.FourWheelerHB.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SWATcop 0 #57 July 9, 2009 Quote Not sure if he really knows what he's getting into, but he fully expects (and desires) combat. He doesn't need any money for college (trust fund exists for that). EDIT: As it currently stands (hasn't signed yet), he's set up for 11B, AIT, RIT (RIP?). Thanks. Sounds like me 22 years ago. I spent 7 years as an Infantry Paratrooper and think it was possibly the best 7 years of my life. Make sure he gets everything in writing as stated above. My younger brother wanted RIP but was told they didn't have any contract slots available, "they will ask for volunteers at the end of OSUT for RIP and Airborne". That didn't happen and he got stuck in a leg unit in Germany. Whatever he decides tell him thanks for his service. Kevin Muff Brother #4041 Team Dirty Sanchez #467 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1969912 0 #58 July 14, 2009 First, thanks to you all for the info. He just signed the paperwork yesterday. Apparently, the only positions available in infantry at the time he signed up were for cooks. He wants to be a Ranger, and had to take what was available towards that goal. Here's what my sister said he signed up for: "He has enlisted with the position title of PARACHUTE RIGGER FOR 4 years with a title of US ARMY AIRBORNE RANGER. Dates: Location: 1/11/2010 BASIC LWood 9 weeks 3/19 Initial Airborne? Jackson 3 weeks 4/09 Rigger Training? Benning 4 weeks 5/10 AIT/RIP? Jackson Mickey is very proud and very excited. He has already started running to begin training and will do some weekly pre-training with the recruiter group here locally." "Once we got to the point where twenty/something's needed a place on the corner that changed the oil in their cars we were doomed . . ." -NickDG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
downwardspiral 0 #59 July 14, 2009 Awesome! Did he ask for the bonus?www.FourWheelerHB.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #60 July 14, 2009 Congratulations! Upon his graduation I will proudly call him a brother.Ranger school is not bad at all. Let me know if he needs anything before deploying. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 8 #61 July 15, 2009 Quote First, thanks to you all for the info. He just signed the paperwork yesterday. Apparently, the only positions available in infantry at the time he signed up were for cooks. He wants to be a Ranger, and had to take what was available towards that goal. Here's what my sister said he signed up for: "He has enlisted with the position title of PARACHUTE RIGGER FOR 4 years with a title of US ARMY AIRBORNE RANGER. Dates: Location: 1/11/2010 BASIC LWood 9 weeks 3/19 Initial Airborne? Jackson 3 weeks 4/09 Rigger Training? Benning 4 weeks 5/10 AIT/RIP? Jackson Should look like this: 9(ish) weeks Ft LWood (Basic) 3 weeks Ft Benning (Airborne) 12 weeks (I think) Ft Lee (Rigger AIT) Then RIP and Ranger school. Im not 100% if he has to go to airborne before or during the riggers course, but he has to make it thru airborne to keep that MOS. No use having a rigger that cant jump "I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1969912 0 #62 July 15, 2009 Yeah, my sister mentioned in the email that she might have got some of the stuff out of order. They were in a hurry to catch a flight to Australia yesterday morning. "Once we got to the point where twenty/something's needed a place on the corner that changed the oil in their cars we were doomed . . ." -NickDG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stitch 0 #63 July 15, 2009 Do riggers and other support positions go through RIP ? What would be the point ? It has always been my understanding that just like airborne school if you flunk RIP, you become needs of the army. I some how doubt if a Ranger battalion needs a rigger, they would send him packing if he failed RIP. What is the AIT/RIP at Fort Jackson for ? Is there a Ranger battalion there now ?"No cookies for you"- GFD "I don't think I like the sound of that" ~ MB65 Don't be a "Racer Hater" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LouDiamond 1 #64 July 15, 2009 Well, I'll be honest here, with what you said your nephews goals were, the Rigger MOS was not the way to go. Based on the info you provided, at best, he can hope to be assigned to one of the Ranger regiments as a Rigger with a Ranger tab. Or he can be sent to any unit in the Army that requires rigger support. Army Riggers work their asses off quite honestly and there is very little that can be considered fun about it IMO. He can expect to pack a lot of static line rounds and or cargo chutes. It will be quite sometime before he can even expect to touch a square canopy, if ever at all, depending on what unit he is assigned to. If the unit he is assigned to has square canopies he would have to go back for RAM Air canopy training at Ft Lee and there are people at the unit that have more seniority than him so even then it could be a great while. Riggers have a very slow career progression rate as there are limited slots/positions, so quite literally, someone has has to die/get promoted/separate from service before someone else can be promoted or move to another position. Of all the prior MOS's out there, especially non combat arms, that I have seen make it into SF, I can only recall 1 that was a rigger. Best of wishes to your nephew and his goal to go SF. Tell him to keep his goal in front of him and if he wants it bad enough, he'll make it happen."It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required" Some people dream about flying, I live my dream SKYMONKEY PUBLISHING Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stitch 0 #65 July 15, 2009 + 1. I didn't have the heart to be brutally honest. I think his nephew may have been a bit over anxious, and let the recruiter take advantage of him. If he didn't see what he wanted, he should have deferred and came back a week later. MOS slots change on a daily basis. Although if he has signed the contract he is probably SOL."No cookies for you"- GFD "I don't think I like the sound of that" ~ MB65 Don't be a "Racer Hater" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1969912 0 #66 July 15, 2009 Yeah, I kind of wondered about the rigger deal too. It's possible I got crappy info from my sister, but it's just as likely he wanted a done deal before leaving for Australia and got hustled (he traveled 75 miles to sign, and probably didn't have access to advice from his ex-Ranger friend.) I'll try to find out more, but as of now, the Army owns his ass! He's a smart kid, and if he wants to be an active Ranger, he'll find a way to do it. "Once we got to the point where twenty/something's needed a place on the corner that changed the oil in their cars we were doomed . . ." -NickDG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SWATcop 0 #67 July 16, 2009 Sounds like he talked to the same guy that put my brother in.Kevin Muff Brother #4041 Team Dirty Sanchez #467 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
labrys 0 #68 July 16, 2009 QuoteUpon his graduation I will proudly call him a brother.Cool Why not extend that friendship before he graduates?Owned by Remi #? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
