OlympiaStoica 0 #1 July 2, 2009 All I have to do is look around to know that we as Americans are in the midst of an epidemic … but reading those statistics in a news article yesterday still sounded unbelievable. In this age (and country) of 50lb toddles and 700lb adults, how do you personaly avoid being part of that statistic? And why is it that Europe (and the rest of the world for that matter) doesn't have this same problem? O Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rlucus 0 #2 July 2, 2009 I do believe this is better suited for SC.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OlympiaStoica 0 #3 July 2, 2009 Quote I do believe this is better suited for SC.... Which might be part of the problem. It's too embarassing - we don't even want to talk about it ... O Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #4 July 2, 2009 QuoteI do believe this is better suited for SC.... huh? WTF does obesity have to do with guns and politics? Anyhow.... Between the car culture of North America (no one walks anywhere), bigger is better when it comes to portions, its easy to see why.Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #5 July 2, 2009 1. Live in the slimmest state in the nation, (CO). 2. Cycling 100+ miles per week in hilly terrain. Nothing beats the workout you get chasing down hot young babes up 8% mountain grades around Boulder. "There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tokter 0 #6 July 2, 2009 QuoteAnyhow.... Between the car culture of North America (no one walks anywhere).. Did you actually try walking somewhere? The naive Swiss that I am, the first day at work I tried to get some lunch by walking. I had to return and get my car. No sidewalks, no way for pedestrians to cross the street etc. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rlucus 0 #7 July 2, 2009 This is the place to discuss politics, guns, religion and any other topic you feel the need to address from your soap box. sounds like a soap box conversation to me... but to add to the discussion... I work out at least 4 times a week and pass my PT tests. I'm 5'11" and haven't not been "over weight" since I was 18. At my height 180 lbs is over weight. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OlympiaStoica 0 #8 July 2, 2009 Yep ... I read that about Colorado - it is the reason I've added it to my list of potential places to move to. The active lifestyle culture is very attractive to me - just like most everyone else, I need inspiration to get (and stay) in shape ... O Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
d_squared431 0 #9 July 2, 2009 Quote Quote I do believe this is better suited for SC.... Which might be part of the problem. It's too embarassing - we don't even want to talk about it ... O All i have to say is people are lazy fucks.... I have my opinions and if i voice them i will sound like i am stereo typing or picking on one culture or economical group.TPM Sister#130ONTIG#1 I love vodka.I love vodka cause it rhymes with Tuaca~LisaH You having a clean thought is like billyvance having a clean post.iluvtofly Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rlucus 0 #10 July 2, 2009 QuoteQuoteAnyhow.... Between the car culture of North America (no one walks anywhere).. Did you actually try walking somewhere? The naive Swiss that I am, the first day at work I tried to get some lunch by walking. I had to return and get my car. No sidewalks, no way for pedestrians to cross the street etc. There are places in the US that bike and pedestrian friendly... it just is not the norm. (I miss Oregon) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #11 July 2, 2009 Yeah.. What do I know about moderating the Bonfire! And I agree Tolker, most cities and towns are just not setup for walking. As I said, car culture. Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #12 July 2, 2009 Quote All i have to say is people are lazy fucks.... I work out six days a week (three of them with a trainer), every week, and skydive on the weekends. I walk to work every day (about a mile each way). I eat primarily whole foods, lean meats, whole grains, lots of fruit and vegetables, in moderate portions. Socioeconomically I'm upper middle class, and I'm white. According to the BMI charts, I'm obese. Still want to call me a lazy fuck and stereotype me? Good luck with that. "There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #13 July 2, 2009 Quote Nothing beats the workout you get chasing down hot young babes up 8% mountain grades around Boulder. That's strange... Some of my female friends in CO tell me they get great motivation from staying far ahead of the old farts trying to chase them...Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #14 July 2, 2009 Quote Quote Nothing beats the workout you get chasing down hot young babes up 8% mountain grades around Boulder. That's strange... Some of my female friends in CO tell me they get great motivation from staying far ahead of the old farts trying to chase them... You see? It works both ways! Everybody wins!"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rlucus 0 #15 July 2, 2009 Quote Yeah.. What do I know about moderating the Bonfire! And I agree Tolker, most cities and towns are just not setup for walking. As I said, car culture. Can't argue with a mod... it was just my interpretation of the description that SC was more than just "guns or politics" Here in Montgomery, AL there is not a single bike lane. Anywhere. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #16 July 2, 2009 Except them if you catch up to them. Then they have to follow your sweaty smelly ass! Hows the training for that big climb coming? Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OlympiaStoica 0 #17 July 2, 2009 Don’t get me wrong … I’m no skinny minie myself and controlling my weight has been a life long struggle. When I can’t get into my jeans however, I get disgusted, have a get-your-head-out-of-your-arse conversation with myself, than take action. I’d never let myself go to the point where I can’t fit into an airline seat. O Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #18 July 2, 2009 It depends on what they're using to generate the statistic. According to BMI, I should be cruzing walmart on a personal mobility device. According to how I look, feel and athletic ability, I'm doing fine but could stand to drop a couple of pounds. Which one should I believe? Well, the BMI is over 100 years old, based on data and statistical beliefs created while Lincoln was still alive!--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #19 July 2, 2009 Quote Except them if you catch up to them. Then they have to follow your sweaty smelly ass! Well I overtook this smoking hot blonde going up Flagstaff Mt last week.Unfortunately, it drove my HR well up into the anaerobic range, so I soon had to stop and catch my breath. She took the opportunity to pass me, and I never caught her again. Quote Hows the training for that big climb coming? I'm planning to make a try for Evans shortly, probably on a weekday when it is less busy. I'm going to settle for doing it like everyone else does from Idaho Springs. Then I will have done the same course as the official hill climb, so I can compare my time and see just how pathetic it was. Damn! A B-17 just flew over the house!A B-24 went over yesterday."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OlympiaStoica 0 #20 July 2, 2009 ... and I've seen your latest pictures, pretty "NWFlyer" ... there is a LOT less of you than it was when I met you back in December at Zhills. All that effort is reflected in the way you look and smile. I bet you feel like a million dollars too Yeah ... I'm not so sure about those "charts". Last year during my physical my doctor told me I have to lose 15 - 20lb ... at 5.8/145lb; I wanted to strangle him. If he saw me now (after my mom cooking for me for the past 2 months and being confined to my couch since my injury 6 weeks ago), I'd be way out of his "charts" for sure ... O Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #21 July 2, 2009 I still have weight to lose, but based on what my doctor back in Seattle told me (and she works with lots of high-level athletes) based on my height, frame, body fat percentage, etc., I won't ever fit "on the charts," even though I'll be at a healthy weight. But my point was more that you can't look at someone who is overweight at any level and have a clue where they are in their own weight management journey. I would never deny that we have a growing (pun intended) issue with weight, but it's a much more complex issue than "if you're fat you're a lazy fuck." "There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumpwally 0 #22 July 2, 2009 Hey, you are one of us now ! smile, be nice, enjoy life FB # - 1083 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
d_squared431 0 #23 July 2, 2009 Quote Quote All i have to say is people are lazy fucks.... I work out six days a week (three of them with a trainer), every week, and skydive on the weekends. I walk to work every day (about a mile each way). I eat primarily whole foods, lean meats, whole grains, lots of fruit and vegetables, in moderate portions. Socioeconomically I'm upper middle class, and I'm white. According to the BMI charts, I'm obese. Still want to call me a lazy fuck and stereotype me? Good luck with that. I knew i should not have posted to this due to others taking it wrong... I am over my BMI so in the same sense I am over wt. I do exercise 3x a week as recomended however, sometimes I can not. I have many limitations to what I can and cant do. Having certain injuries i can not work out like most people. If I do I cant walk for a few weeks or am in constant pain. I do pay attention to what I eat. It is one thing to be over wt it is another to become "severe morbid obesity." 40-50lbs in my opinion is not bad and I am not talking about people in this category. I am talking about those who become 100 plus over wt. and then want to have bariatric surgery because that in their minds is the answer. I know that certain health issues cause obesity and make it very difficult to lose wt. I packed on the lbs after 3 surgeries and not being able to do anything for a few years. I have lost 30lbs and work hard to get back to where I was prior to being injured. I know others will find something in what i wrote as being mean or take it personal and I did not mean the other post nor this one to come across like that. The thing is you don't just go to sleep one night and wake up the next morning over wt. It happens over time.TPM Sister#130ONTIG#1 I love vodka.I love vodka cause it rhymes with Tuaca~LisaH You having a clean thought is like billyvance having a clean post.iluvtofly Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LisaH 0 #24 July 2, 2009 But my point was more that you can't look at someone who is overweight at any level and have a clue where they are in their own weight management journey. I would never deny that we have a growing (pun intended) issue with weight, but it's a much more complex issue than "if you're fat you're a lazy fuck." _____________________ It's the same on the other side. If you're thin, you automatically have an eating disorder. Be yourself! MooOOooOoo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LaRusic 0 #25 July 2, 2009 BMI is a piss poor way of determining if you are over weight or not. Its way to inacurate. It even says on the instructions for the test that you are a weight lifter or an athlete then the tests will not give a true answer. North Americas problem with obeisty stems from too many kids sitting in front of the tv or computer, video games and lack of physical activity. same with the older generation. Also fast food is widely used because its quick and very readily avalible. Lack of exercise and proper diet are to blame and in general not caring about it makes it worse...everyone makes excusesThe Altitude above you, the runway behind you, and the fuel not in the plane are totally worthless Dudeist Skydiver # 10 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
