NickDG 23 #1 June 18, 2009 Co-pilot flying the plane! Media going nuts! (Hope the first officer didn't also have the fish). NickD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites simplyputsi 0 #2 June 18, 2009 isn't this one of the purposes of a co-pilot???? have they come up with a catchy slogan for it yet?Skymama's #2 stalker - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AggieDave 6 #3 June 18, 2009 This will need a slogan, as well as its own animated lead in graphic!--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites turtlespeed 220 #4 June 18, 2009 Maybe he REALLY got his wings now?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SpeedRacer 1 #5 June 18, 2009 Quote Co-pilot flying the plane! Media going nuts! (Hope the first officer didn't also have the fish). NickD If he did, I just hope one of the flight attendants is there to blow inflate the Autopilot! Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SARLDO 0 #6 June 18, 2009 CNN says the pilot was 61. I thought there was a mandatory retirement of commercial airline pilots at age 60. Anybody know if the age 60 rule was recinded?"Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest" ~Samuel Clemens MB#4300 Dudeist Skydiver #68 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites airtwardo 7 #7 June 18, 2009 QuoteCNN says the pilot was 61. I thought there was a mandatory retirement of commercial airline pilots at age 60. Anybody know if the age 60 rule was rescinded? Yes it was...now 65 Edit to add: For international flights like that, there are actually 3 qualified pilots on board....one is a 'reserve' flight officer. (I.R.O. ~ international reserve officer) Also...only the most senior flight crew get to drive the heavies, many times the co-pilot was a captain on other equipment, but went back to right seat for the higher pay and better schedule. And don't call me Shirley! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites OlympiaStoica 0 #8 June 18, 2009 They just landed - safely. ~ O Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnRich 4 #9 June 18, 2009 Let's see... We can't fly the small regional airlines because the pilots are too inexperienced. And now we can't fly the major carriers because the pilots are too old. So what's left? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnMitchell 16 #10 June 18, 2009 Fly with jump pilots, and wear a rig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SpeedRacer 1 #11 June 18, 2009 QuoteThey just landed - safely. ~ O " I just want to tell you both good luck. We're all counting on you. " Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites turtlespeed 220 #12 June 18, 2009 QuoteQuoteThey just landed - safely. ~ O " I just want to tell you both good luck. We're all counting on you. " I picked a bad week to quit sniffing glue!I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ryoder 1,590 #13 June 18, 2009 Quote For international flights like that, there are actually 3 qualified pilots on board....one is a 'reserve' flight officer. (I.R.O. ~ international reserve officer) I assume this was instituted so they wouldn't need to fall back on the using the pilot with the drinking problem again."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites airtwardo 7 #14 June 18, 2009 Quote Quote For international flights like that, there are actually 3 qualified pilots on board....one is a 'reserve' flight officer. (I.R.O. ~ international reserve officer) I assume this was instituted so they wouldn't need to fall back on the using the pilot with the drinking problem again. “No, I don't think I'll ever get over Macho Grande”. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Icon134 0 #15 June 18, 2009 QuoteEdit to add: For international flights like that, there are actually 3 qualified pilots on board....one is a 'reserve' flight officer. (I.R.O. ~ international reserve officer) Also...only the most senior flight crew get to drive the heavies, many times the co-pilot was a captain on other equipment, but went back to right seat for the higher pay and better schedule. And don't call me Shirley!in fact the news article I just read stated that a relief pilot stepped in... and two pilots landed the plane.Livin' on the Edge... sleeping with my rigger's wife... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Rookie120 0 #16 June 18, 2009 Quote For international flights like that, there are actually 3 qualified pilots on board....one is a 'reserve' flight officer. (I.R.O. ~ international reserve officer) I think it's anything blocked over 8 hours an I.R.O. is assigned. I can double check on that. R.I.P to the pilot and my condolences to his family. He probably went out doing what he loved doing. If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Nutz 0 #17 June 18, 2009 Looks like I picked a bad week to stop barbituates. And stop calling me Shirley. "Don't! Get! Eliminated!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites MikeRMontagne 0 #18 June 18, 2009 Question, can sky divers take their rigs on as" carry- on" litteraly. Air france, breaks-up in mid air, could've someone deployed even if they could freefall ( along with all the falling debis & , well other's) to say abou 15000? Food for thoughtBe Brave, embrace the fear, even if your not, pretend to be. No one can tell the difference Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites airtwardo 7 #19 June 18, 2009 Quote He probably went out doing what he loved doing. What...having a heart attack? ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites chasteh 0 #20 June 18, 2009 I've heard of wwII bomber crews getting out of a plane with the wings or tail breaking off before. One got out over German-occupied France without a rig on... fell several thousand feet through a glass ceiling and hit the floor. He had something like a broken pelvis, leg, and badly wounded arm... but he lived. (The germans were so amazed that he survived that they took care of him until the war ended) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ryoder 1,590 #21 June 18, 2009 Quote Question, can sky divers take their rigs on as" carry- on" litteraly. Air france, breaks-up in mid air, could've someone deployed even if they could freefall ( along with all the falling debis & , well other's) to say abou 15000? Food for thought No. Food for sharks."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ryoder 1,590 #22 June 18, 2009 QuoteI've heard of wwII bomber crews getting out of a plane with the wings or tail breaking off before. One got out over German-occupied France without a rig on... fell several thousand feet through a glass ceiling and hit the floor. He had something like a broken pelvis, leg, and badly wounded arm... but he lived. (The germans were so amazed that he survived that they took care of him until the war ended) When I was a kid, I found this book in my local library: http://www.antiqbook.co.nz/boox/ren/5715.shtml From distant memory, I recall: - A guy being saved by deep snow in the mountains. - A tail-gunner stuck in the detached, spinning tail assembly saved by trees. - A guy w/o a rig who did a Mr Bill with another guy who had been temporarily knocked out by the plane exploding, before he woke up and pulled."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites MikeJD 0 #23 June 18, 2009 Quote Question, can sky divers take their rigs on as" carry- on" litteraly. Air france, breaks-up in mid air, could've someone deployed even if they could freefall ( along with all the falling debis & , well other's) to say abou 15000? Food for thought In this particular case, even if you'd managed to exit the plane alive you'd still have been left bobbing around in the middle of the Alantic - in a storm - at best. By all means take your rig as carry-on, but never because you think it might help you survive a disaster. It's fantasy. Quote (The germans were so amazed that he survived that they took care of him until the war ended) Chasteh, I'd hope they'd have taken care of him whether they were amazed or not. There were (and are) rules about that sort of thing! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
simplyputsi 0 #2 June 18, 2009 isn't this one of the purposes of a co-pilot???? have they come up with a catchy slogan for it yet?Skymama's #2 stalker - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #3 June 18, 2009 This will need a slogan, as well as its own animated lead in graphic!--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 220 #4 June 18, 2009 Maybe he REALLY got his wings now?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #5 June 18, 2009 Quote Co-pilot flying the plane! Media going nuts! (Hope the first officer didn't also have the fish). NickD If he did, I just hope one of the flight attendants is there to blow inflate the Autopilot! Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SARLDO 0 #6 June 18, 2009 CNN says the pilot was 61. I thought there was a mandatory retirement of commercial airline pilots at age 60. Anybody know if the age 60 rule was recinded?"Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest" ~Samuel Clemens MB#4300 Dudeist Skydiver #68 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #7 June 18, 2009 QuoteCNN says the pilot was 61. I thought there was a mandatory retirement of commercial airline pilots at age 60. Anybody know if the age 60 rule was rescinded? Yes it was...now 65 Edit to add: For international flights like that, there are actually 3 qualified pilots on board....one is a 'reserve' flight officer. (I.R.O. ~ international reserve officer) Also...only the most senior flight crew get to drive the heavies, many times the co-pilot was a captain on other equipment, but went back to right seat for the higher pay and better schedule. And don't call me Shirley! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OlympiaStoica 0 #8 June 18, 2009 They just landed - safely. ~ O Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #9 June 18, 2009 Let's see... We can't fly the small regional airlines because the pilots are too inexperienced. And now we can't fly the major carriers because the pilots are too old. So what's left? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 16 #10 June 18, 2009 Fly with jump pilots, and wear a rig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #11 June 18, 2009 QuoteThey just landed - safely. ~ O " I just want to tell you both good luck. We're all counting on you. " Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 220 #12 June 18, 2009 QuoteQuoteThey just landed - safely. ~ O " I just want to tell you both good luck. We're all counting on you. " I picked a bad week to quit sniffing glue!I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #13 June 18, 2009 Quote For international flights like that, there are actually 3 qualified pilots on board....one is a 'reserve' flight officer. (I.R.O. ~ international reserve officer) I assume this was instituted so they wouldn't need to fall back on the using the pilot with the drinking problem again."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #14 June 18, 2009 Quote Quote For international flights like that, there are actually 3 qualified pilots on board....one is a 'reserve' flight officer. (I.R.O. ~ international reserve officer) I assume this was instituted so they wouldn't need to fall back on the using the pilot with the drinking problem again. “No, I don't think I'll ever get over Macho Grande”. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icon134 0 #15 June 18, 2009 QuoteEdit to add: For international flights like that, there are actually 3 qualified pilots on board....one is a 'reserve' flight officer. (I.R.O. ~ international reserve officer) Also...only the most senior flight crew get to drive the heavies, many times the co-pilot was a captain on other equipment, but went back to right seat for the higher pay and better schedule. And don't call me Shirley!in fact the news article I just read stated that a relief pilot stepped in... and two pilots landed the plane.Livin' on the Edge... sleeping with my rigger's wife... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rookie120 0 #16 June 18, 2009 Quote For international flights like that, there are actually 3 qualified pilots on board....one is a 'reserve' flight officer. (I.R.O. ~ international reserve officer) I think it's anything blocked over 8 hours an I.R.O. is assigned. I can double check on that. R.I.P to the pilot and my condolences to his family. He probably went out doing what he loved doing. If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nutz 0 #17 June 18, 2009 Looks like I picked a bad week to stop barbituates. And stop calling me Shirley. "Don't! Get! Eliminated!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeRMontagne 0 #18 June 18, 2009 Question, can sky divers take their rigs on as" carry- on" litteraly. Air france, breaks-up in mid air, could've someone deployed even if they could freefall ( along with all the falling debis & , well other's) to say abou 15000? Food for thoughtBe Brave, embrace the fear, even if your not, pretend to be. No one can tell the difference Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #19 June 18, 2009 Quote He probably went out doing what he loved doing. What...having a heart attack? ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chasteh 0 #20 June 18, 2009 I've heard of wwII bomber crews getting out of a plane with the wings or tail breaking off before. One got out over German-occupied France without a rig on... fell several thousand feet through a glass ceiling and hit the floor. He had something like a broken pelvis, leg, and badly wounded arm... but he lived. (The germans were so amazed that he survived that they took care of him until the war ended) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #21 June 18, 2009 Quote Question, can sky divers take their rigs on as" carry- on" litteraly. Air france, breaks-up in mid air, could've someone deployed even if they could freefall ( along with all the falling debis & , well other's) to say abou 15000? Food for thought No. Food for sharks."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #22 June 18, 2009 QuoteI've heard of wwII bomber crews getting out of a plane with the wings or tail breaking off before. One got out over German-occupied France without a rig on... fell several thousand feet through a glass ceiling and hit the floor. He had something like a broken pelvis, leg, and badly wounded arm... but he lived. (The germans were so amazed that he survived that they took care of him until the war ended) When I was a kid, I found this book in my local library: http://www.antiqbook.co.nz/boox/ren/5715.shtml From distant memory, I recall: - A guy being saved by deep snow in the mountains. - A tail-gunner stuck in the detached, spinning tail assembly saved by trees. - A guy w/o a rig who did a Mr Bill with another guy who had been temporarily knocked out by the plane exploding, before he woke up and pulled."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeJD 0 #23 June 18, 2009 Quote Question, can sky divers take their rigs on as" carry- on" litteraly. Air france, breaks-up in mid air, could've someone deployed even if they could freefall ( along with all the falling debis & , well other's) to say abou 15000? Food for thought In this particular case, even if you'd managed to exit the plane alive you'd still have been left bobbing around in the middle of the Alantic - in a storm - at best. By all means take your rig as carry-on, but never because you think it might help you survive a disaster. It's fantasy. Quote (The germans were so amazed that he survived that they took care of him until the war ended) Chasteh, I'd hope they'd have taken care of him whether they were amazed or not. There were (and are) rules about that sort of thing! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites