fossg 0 #1 June 3, 2009 I don't know if this has been mentioned here before. If it has I blame old age and an advanced case of CRS (Can't Remember Shit) Anyhow here is my couple of submissions "Shall we dance" (I love that line "Quit lookin at my ass") and Lost in Translation. The opening shot is worth the price of admission Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #2 June 3, 2009 Quote I don't know if this has been mentioned here before. If it has I blame old age and an advanced case of CRS (Can't Remember Shit) Anyhow here is my couple of submissions "Shall we dance" (I love that line "Quit lookin at my ass") and Lost in Translation. The opening shot is worth the price of admission You think Lost in Translation is a chick flick? It's a middle-aged life crisis flick.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fossg 0 #3 June 3, 2009 Any movie that I get dragged to by the females in my family fits my description of chick flick Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #4 June 3, 2009 QuoteAny movie that I get dragged to by the females in my family fits my description of chick flick Pity you couldn't see the movie for what it was then. Lost in Translation covers a number of very male, very mid-life crisis issues in an amazing way.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumpingjunkie09 0 #5 June 3, 2009 Lost in Translation lost ME in translation. I just did not get it! I am "ROGUE" (III Degree Smutsketeer) Official "poster above you" thread starter "And don't forget we like men with balls and no needle dicks. So, basically, you're out." ~LuckyMcSwervy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #6 June 3, 2009 Quote Lost in Translation lost ME in translation. I just did not get it! Possibly because you're a young woman and not a guy in his mid-to late 40s. You not a guy that has "peaked" and is now doing crap work he doesn't want to do in a foreign country. You're not an older guy confronted with a "foreign affair." You're not drunk in a strange city that simply makes no sense to you. To ME, it exactly captured what it's like to be a foreigner working in a strange land while keeping a constant slight buzz just so you can tolerate getting through the day. Ok, yeah, it absolutely did have a couple of "chick flick" moments, but there aren't too many "chick flicks" out there where the girl doesn't end up with the guy like this one. In fact, the most "romantic" thing about the movie is they agree that they're never going to see each other again. That it was a one time fling specifically not to ever be repeated. I can absolutely see where a young woman might not understand a movie like that. quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fossg 0 #7 June 3, 2009 On the contrary -after I started watching the movie I enjoyed it immensely on several levels. Frankly since I am middle aged and currently working outside the US- I can relate to the movie Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #8 June 3, 2009 QuoteOn the contrary -after I started watching the movie I enjoyed it immensely on several levels. Frankly since I am middle aged and currently working outside the US- I can relate to the movie Ah! Great, I was under the impression you had been dragged into it kicking and screaming. Glad you've seen it in a different light. I frequently will revisit movies I don't like on first viewing just to see what I've missed. Usually there's some nugget in there that, while I still may think the movie is overhyped, does in some way redeem it for me.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 235 #9 June 3, 2009 QuoteQuoteAny movie that I get dragged to by the females in my family fits my description of chick flick Pity you couldn't see the movie for what it was then. Lost in Translation covers a number of very male, very mid-life crisis issues in an amazing way. I'd say you're not doing too bad if your mid-life crises involves Scarlett Johansson."I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #10 June 3, 2009 QuoteI'd say you're not doing too bad if your mid-life crises involves Scarlett Johansson. That's part of the problem with Hollywood, even if a character is supposed to be "average" the people they have play them are freekin' gorgeous. In the movie, she really was supposed to be just an average looking woman, not particularly sexy or glamourous at all. Have you ever noticed that most people that play background characters in the movies are WAY better looking than most people in real life? Even the "ugly" chicks in movies are usually better looking than most average people? There are the rare exceptions of course, people that are playing characters that are supposed to over-the-top unattractive, but even that's usually done with make-up.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crustySCSA69 0 #11 June 3, 2009 Quote Lost in Translation lost ME in translation. I just did not get it! Hey nineteen No we got nothing in common No we cant talk at all Please take me along When you slide on down Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BikerBabe 0 #12 June 3, 2009 I'm dragging my husband to see Star Trek...does that count? I mean, it's got a good story, character development, and some smoking hot guys (who would have ever thought to have a celeb crush on Spock, but holy hell...) So it's a chick flick, right? Never meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #13 June 3, 2009 QuoteI'm dragging my husband to see Star Trek...does that count? I mean, it's got a good story, character development . . . "Bonus points" for the first person that can successfully say who the main character of the movie is according to standard screenwriting theory and justify it in those terms.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BikerBabe 0 #14 June 3, 2009 well, i don't know about standards and the industry, but it's pretty blatantly obvious that it's a movie about Spock. Based on *literary* ideas (like what i learned in English class) that character is the most dynamic and well-developed. And that's not just my extreme bias toward all things Zachary Quinto speaking, either. *drool* Never meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #15 June 3, 2009 Quotewell, i don't know about standards and the industry, but it's pretty blatantly obvious that it's a movie about Spock. I think lots of people would agree with you except in this movie the case actually could be made that the Kirk and Spock stories really are running parallel to each other. I'd maintain it's their partnership and not either Kirk or Spock individually that is really the main character here. Both have undeserved misfortunes early in the story. This is the classic set up in most stories since before the Brothers Grimm. How many fairy tales have started out with the hero being either an orphan or step child? Kirk's is pretty obvious in the death, but Spock's is no less undeserved in his childhood of being bullied for being different. Something most Trek viewers are going to sympathize with. Both have very directly stated themes in the movie. This is usually given to them by a different character in Act 1. In Kirk's case it's the challenge Pike gives him to "do better" as a Captain of a ship. In the case of Spock, it's the challenge his father gives him to control his emotions. Both have Act 2 thrust upon them and really have no choice but to go along with it. In the case of Kirk, it's actually McCoy that drugs him and "forces" him to go; he's almost completely helpless at the time. Once he's drugged he really has no choice in the matter. In the case of Spock, Pike promotes him to Captain. The "B" story, the love interested Uhura. I could go on and on (and have elsewhere!), but hopefully you get the point. It's not a "normal" movie with a single hero, but rather a shared story. More about one or the other depending on your predilection for one or the other character; in your case Spock. Contrast this to say, Terminator Salvation where nothing about John Conner fits the formula and virtually all of the classic plot points revolve around Marcus. It's really his story being set in the Terminator universe. Really interesting to see how differently these two franchises are being handled. In the case of Trek they're completely starting over. They get to use this first one to do all the "normal" story telling stuff and set up the hero partnership so both continue on to the next story. In the case of Terminator it's all one continuous story, we already know pretty much everything there is to know about John Conner and he has to continue to live or the franchise dies. If they want to do any "classic" storytelling, they actually can't do too much interesting with him at this point so they bring in another character entirely; Marcus.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,563 #16 June 3, 2009 QuotePossibly because you're a young woman and not a guy in his mid-to late 40s. You not a guy that has "peaked" and is now doing crap work he doesn't want to do in a foreign country. You're not an older guy confronted with a "foreign affair." You're not drunk in a strange city that simply makes no sense to you. But the sense of detatchment through the whole film is really heightened by Scarlett Johannsons character. She's a young woman dragged off to and semi abandoned in a strange place, cut adrift from any of her ambitions or purpose, surrounded by people, both foreign and American, that she doesn't understand, latching onto the one person she can connect with. Her side of the story's pretty interesting too. Hell, I'm not an old man or a young woman and I thought it was absolutely fantastic. Not sure about Johannson's character intended to be 'average' looking though... what makes you say that?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riddler 0 #17 June 3, 2009 QuoteNot sure about Johannson's character intended to be 'average' looking though... what makes you say that? Because she wasn't platinum blonde and wearing tight-fitting clothes, like in The Island. If the "good" characters that are penned as average-looking, they still need to be attractive actors, so the audience is sympathetic to them. If they are "bad" people, they can be either attractive or unattractive, depending if you want the audience to hate them entirely, or be strangely attracted to the bad-boy or bad-girl image.Trapped on the surface of a sphere. XKCD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeJD 0 #18 June 3, 2009 Quote Even the "ugly" chicks in movies are usually better looking than most average people Absolutely agree with you. In a Hollywood movie the kooky, unattractive friend is a gorgeous actress with glasses and a slightly odd haircut. If you really want to make her 'ugly' you also put braces on her teeth. And voila, as if by magic - erm, a beautiful woman with glasses, bad hair and braces. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #19 June 3, 2009 Quote Quote I don't know if this has been mentioned here before. If it has I blame old age and an advanced case of CRS (Can't Remember Shit) Anyhow here is my couple of submissions "Shall we dance" (I love that line "Quit lookin at my ass") and Lost in Translation. The opening shot is worth the price of admission You think Lost in Translation is a chick flick? I consider most movies that put me to sleep to be chick flicks. Bleus, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #20 June 3, 2009 Attractive women determine the type of a movie. In a chick flick, she will accomplish one or both of the following: - Through use of her looks, she will eventually get the really attractive beach bum to give her the Perfect Relationship while he becomes astonishingly rich. - Work through all her issues with her mother. (example, Steel Magnolias) (Remember, Pretty Woman was not a documentary ) In a guy flick, in the first 4 minutes of the movie, she will provide the GBS. The Gratuitous Breast Shot has no bearing on the plot, but rivets the male viewers attention for the following 20 minutes with the hope that she will expose them again. (example, the opening 2 minutes of Lethal Weapon) Sex, violence, and humor are the hallmarks of great movies. Blazing Saddles or Flesh Gordon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
