phoenixlpr 0 #26 July 20, 2010 Quote Quote Quote They get paid according to how many rigs they pack. Unless its a REALLY slow day you can bet that the thing is not going to be packed half as carefully as if you did it yourself. You are wrong. Packing fast does not mean that would be careless. No. I'm not wrong. There isnt a professional packer on earth that will pack MY rig with as much care and attention to detail as I use when I pack MY rig. This belief is supported 100% by the % of less than perfect openings I experience when its been packed by a packer compared to when I pack it myself. Also, "not packed half as carefully" is not the same thing as "careless" Your choice: your money vs your time and efforts. I don't have to pack. I can pack if i want to and if I'm asked so. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #27 July 21, 2010 QuoteQuoteThere isnt a professional packer on earth that will pack MY rig with as much care and attention to detail as I use when I pack MY rig. This belief is supported 100% by the % of less than perfect openings I experience when its been packed by a packer compared to when I pack it myself. You are assuming care and attention to detail affect the opening. Pretty damn good "assumption"...IME.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,996 #28 July 22, 2010 >If you're going to use paid packers, check to see if he/she wants the PC >cocked. In my experience, most will not. Ah. Well, that's the difference then. Drop it off without cocking the PC and you will annoy _our_ packers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot1 0 #29 July 22, 2010 Quote When picking up my canopy, I noticed that the slider was already collapsed You only noticed when you were picking up your canopy? Wowwww.WestCoastWingsuits.com www.PrecisionSkydiving.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
elias123 0 #30 July 22, 2010 Agreed. I know a jumper with 8000+ jumps who packs in three minutes and has never had a reserve ride."In a mad world, only the mad are sane" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ecnuob 0 #31 July 22, 2010 Quote>If you're going to use paid packers, check to see if he/she wants the PC >cocked. In my experience, most will not. Ah. Well, that's the difference then. Drop it off without cocking the PC and you will annoy _our_ packers. Seriously? If I Cock my PC before shaking it out, or any other time before laying it on the ground it tends to uncock somewhat or all the way... I understand setting the brakes and for your own piece of mind/safety uncollapsing the slider, but expecting the PC to be cocked is flat out lazy packing Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,996 #32 July 22, 2010 > but expecting the PC to be cocked is flat out lazy packing. Well, you could say the same about a packer who wants you to unkill the slider, or stow the brakes. Generally I try to prep the canopy as much as possible to help out with the kind of packjob volumes we see on the weekends, and that includes all of the above (and also sometimes includes getting to the burrito phase if time permits.) Again, every packer is different, so it pays to talk to them to see what they expect (and what you are willing to do.) I haven't found a packer yet that gets annoyed by customers who stow brakes/unkill sliders/cock PC's, but from what people say here, they must exist. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NovaTTT 2 #33 July 23, 2010 Quote I haven't found a packer yet that gets annoyed by customers who stow brakes/unkill sliders/cock PC's, but from what people say here, they must exist. Show me a packer that doesn't want the brakes stowed and the slider opened. Regarding the PC, you haven't found one that complains or makes an issue of it. That's not the same as not getting annoyed. You might have a hard time finding a waiter or other service individual complain to the customer about little things. It's counterproductive to gripe to the customer in any field. IME, packers will give suggestions or outright requests, if you don't ask . . . and they will charge extra, for the brakes & slider thing. It's a time thing. And why are you latching onto this insignificant datum when there are actual points in this thread to discuss?"Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
