stevebabin 0 #26 January 21, 2009 Hypothetically, let's call him Irish. Yes, hard to believe, a Drunk, beligerant Irishman... "Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings." "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebabin 0 #27 January 21, 2009 Hypothetically, here's what went down: Quote Saturday, in the office at the DZ, Irish was trying to teach Casey how to wave-off. He ommitted telling her the part about being able to look up and see if there's anyone above you. I chimed in from across the room (12-15 people in the office) and explained real quick about looking up, so that you're not opening beneath anyone. The night progresses. Irish gets snockered. When it's time to go home, I take his drunk ass to our motel. On the way there, he starts talking about what happened with Casey earlier in the day. It's obviously gotten under his skin.He becomes more and more agitated, until when I'm pulling into the motel parking lot, he hits me in the face. Yes, while I'm driving. I slam on the brakes and put an elbow into his face. It becomes a wrestling match in the cab of my truck until I can get the truck in park and open my door to get away. His feet were still in the passenger side, and he gets out that side. I get back into the truck and start driving. I drive around the building, back to the front where this all took place. I was thinking, "wtf was that shit about?". I open my door as he is approaching the truck...I asked him "wtf is wrong with you?"....He steps to my door(I'm seated in the drivers seat) and connects with a punch to my face. Now, I'm dazed, sitting there bleeding(I'm on coumadin) and trying to catch my breath. He's outside the truck telling me to get out so he can kick my ass... I tell him to go to bed, and I drive off leaving him standing there. I park in front of my room, and he's walking toward me as I'm getting out of the truck, I turn to face him and again say-"Greg, go to bed", to which he says..."I'm going to bed." He walks past my truck and around the building to his room. The left side of my face is swollen and sore, the left side of both lips is split and swollen, my forehead is scraped up, and my right eye has blood in the white of it. He has threatened violence before with Jojo, Batdan, and Me ("I'll punch you square in the face, Dude" or "I will kick your ass") He threatened BatDan earlier that night. He has some stressful things in his life at the moment, business wise. He certainly has some serious control and anger issues that he can't seem to get his hands around. He's claimed to his family that I hit him first, which to anyone that knows us both knows that that's laughable. "Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings." "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #28 January 21, 2009 Quote Hypothetically, here's what went down:Saturday, in the office at the DZ, Irish was trying to teach Casey...I chimed in from across the room... -Whoever the I is had no damn business chiming in anything while somebody is trying to teach. -The motel incident is nothing more than an oh-so-cute lover's spat. -The threatening people at the DZ is a bannable offense. Ban the sucker or quit crying and whining.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebabin 0 #29 January 21, 2009 The I is me. Irish has no business trying to teach in the first place-he's not even a coach, much less an instructor. If he (or anyone else) omits a critical step, like looking above you when you pull, you better believe I'm going to speak up. No lovers spat. I thought I was getting my drunk friend to his room safely, and he attacked me. It's not my DZ....Not my call to ban him or not. That would be up to the DZO. I'm posting all this shit to make him think twice about threatening or attacking anyone in the future. I'm not resorting to violence to accomplish it."Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings." "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #30 January 21, 2009 Quotemy drunk friend OK that clarifies it. Being originally a Northerner, I'm a believer in filing charges against violent non-friends. But yeah, I'd probably make an exception for a friend. That being said, he'd be an ex-friend. Zero tolerance for violence. When he sees all his friends peeling off, he might get himself some help. If he's a close friend, give him a "get help" ultimatum, explain that you're not going to see or speak to him for some time (say, 3 months ... whatever), and why, and then make it stick. Hopefully in the long run you'll be helping him. But you need to get a chronically abusive friend out of your life. Been there, got the t-shirt. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebabin 0 #31 January 21, 2009 QuoteQuotemy drunk friend OK that clarifies it. Being originally a Northerner, I'm a believer in filing charges against violent non-friends. But yeah, I'd probably make an exception for a friend. That being said, he'd be an ex-friend. Zero tolerance for violence. When he sees all his friends peeling off, he might get himself some help. If he's a close friend, give him a "get help" ultimatum, explain that you're not going to see or speak to him for some time (say, 3 months ... whatever), and why, and then make it stick. Hopefully in the long run you'll be helping him. But you need to get a chronically abusive friend out of your life. Been there, got the t-shirt. Sounds like rational advice. Thank you."Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings." "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #32 January 21, 2009 Quote Quote my drunk friend OK that clarifies it. Being originally a Northerner, I'm a believer in filing charges against violent non-friends. But yeah, I'd probably make an exception for a friend. That being said, he'd be an ex-friend. Zero tolerance for violence. When he sees all his friends peeling off, he might get himself some help. If he's a close friend, give him a "get help" ultimatum, explain that you're not going to see or speak to him for some time (say, 3 months ... whatever), and why, and then make it stick. Hopefully in the long run you'll be helping him. But you need to get a chronically abusive friend out of your life. Been there, got the t-shirt. Yeah...like I said, volunteer to pack for him. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skittles_of_SDC 0 #33 January 21, 2009 Quote Hypothetically, let's call him Irish. Yes, hard to believe, a Drunk, beligerant Irishman... Dude. Not cool. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebabin 0 #34 January 21, 2009 Quote Quote Hypothetically, let's call him Irish. Yes, hard to believe, a Drunk, beligerant Irishman... Dude. Not cool. I'm Irish. I'm allowed."Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings." "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #35 January 21, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Hypothetically, let's call him Irish. Yes, hard to believe, a Drunk, beligerant Irishman... Dude. Not cool. I'm Irish. I'm allowed. That's cool. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #36 January 21, 2009 Quote Quote Hypothetically, let's call him Irish. Yes, hard to believe, a Drunk, beligerant Irishman... Dude. Not cool. I realize it's not precisely your point, but: Genetically inherited diseases do sometimes get concentrated within ethnic groups or similar sub-sets due to repeated intra-marriage. Sickle cell anemia is one example. Tay-Sachs disease is another. So is hemophilia. And so is alcoholism. Pointing it out does not necessarily make one bigoted against blacks, Jews, European royalty or Irish. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebabin 0 #37 January 21, 2009 You just don't like Black Irish Jews of royal European descent, do you? "Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings." "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skittles_of_SDC 0 #38 January 21, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Hypothetically, let's call him Irish. Yes, hard to believe, a Drunk, beligerant Irishman... Dude. Not cool. I realize it's not precisely your point, but: Genetically inherited diseases do sometimes get concentrated within ethnic groups or similar sub-sets due to repeated intra-marriage. Sickle cell anemia is one example. Tay-Sachs disease is another. So is hemophilia. And so is alcoholism. Pointing it out does not necessarily make one bigoted against blacks, Jews, European royalty or Irish. Pointing out the drunk part doesn't. Calling them belligerent does. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skittles_of_SDC 0 #39 January 21, 2009 I know your avatar is small but when I see it all I see is this guy. http://www.tvguide.com/images/pgimg/house-morse47.jpg Any relation? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebabin 0 #40 January 21, 2009 Quote I know your avatar is small but when I see it all I see is this guy. http://www.tvguide.com/images/pgimg/house-morse47.jpg Any relation? People say we look alike, but I don't see it. No relation. I like his acting."Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings." "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #41 January 21, 2009 Quote Quote I know your avatar is small but when I see it all I see is this guy. http://www.tvguide.com/images/pgimg/house-morse47.jpg Any relation? People say we look alike, but I don't see it. No relation. I like his acting. He probably says the same thing about you... ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virgin-burner 1 #42 January 21, 2009 maybe we should introduce irish to banesanura!? “Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #43 January 21, 2009 Quote maybe we should introduce irish to banesanura!? Ooooooo...that might work. A good swift kick in the nutz just might do the trick.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #44 January 21, 2009 Quote I'm Irish... ??? I'm cornfused...I thought you were the I guy that spoke up. My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebabin 0 #45 January 21, 2009 We're both of Irish ancestry. He's the guy with the nickname "Irish" I'm the guy with the busted up lip! "Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings." "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #46 January 21, 2009 Quote You just don't like Black Irish Jews of royal European descent, do you? Filthy vermin. No. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #47 January 21, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Quote Hypothetically, let's call him Irish. Yes, hard to believe, a Drunk, beligerant Irishman... Dude. Not cool. I realize it's not precisely your point, but: Genetically inherited diseases do sometimes get concentrated within ethnic groups or similar sub-sets due to repeated intra-marriage. Sickle cell anemia is one example. Tay-Sachs disease is another. So is hemophilia. And so is alcoholism. Pointing it out does not necessarily make one bigoted against blacks, Jews, European royalty or Irish. Pointing out the drunk part doesn't. Calling them belligerent does. To state the obvious, drunk people are more prone to being belligerent than sober people. Cheers! Please don't punch me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wrightskyguy 1 #48 January 21, 2009 Maybe you should quit hanging out with people who get drunk. John Wright World's most beloved skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewGuy2005 53 #49 January 21, 2009 QuoteHypothetically, let's call him Irish. Say it ain't so!! Man, that's disappointing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
doug925 0 #50 January 21, 2009 Quote Maybe you should quit hanging out with people who get drunk. hum it with me "....don't drink, don't cuss, what do you do...?" I have never developed indigestion from eating my words. Winston Churchill Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
