masterrig 1 #76 October 18, 2005 QuoteQuoteI don't know about that. Each rig I get into my shop, for I&R, I wipe-down both the release cables as well as the reserve cable with Silicone. It's amazing the grease and gunk I see on the cloth afterward, from the reserve cable. Maybe, it's just a West Texas thing. Oh, Iagree and clean the ripcord cable too, but the dirt doesn't cause a hard pull on the reserve like it does on the cutaway cables. Derek ________________________________________ I understand. It's amazing, how many folks don't clean their cables. Especially here in our semi-arid, dusty climate. I quit asking if they did. The usual response is; "That's why I pay you!" Like flexing the webbing at the ring on their risers. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
goose491 0 #77 October 18, 2005 QuoteQuoteAnd then everyone who answers no should find a new sport. Thats a bold statement. Does this mean that you know EVERYTHING about your gear? This about proper setup of the 3 ring release? One does not have to know EVERYTHING about their gear to skydive. Last I checked though, there was a pretty standard gear check which IS required to skydive... and it does include the 3 rings setup. If you can inspect it and say it's setup properly... how can you then turn around and say you don't know how to hook it up properly? Even trial and error would work in your favour if you know how to "inspect" it once it's done. It was Bold of him to say so... but not incorrect. If you can't assemble a 3 ring release... you should probably take up bowling. Nick My Karma ran over my Dogma!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AMax 0 #78 October 18, 2005 Quote The ones that amaze me are the ones that don't want to know anything about their gear Because it's very convenient A rigger will re-pack the reserve and do whatever is necessary ... a packer will pack the main. Why should I bother to learn about my gear? There are people who don't know how to pack their main. How can you expect them to perform some simple gear maintance? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
azureriders 0 #79 October 18, 2005 QuoteIt was Bold of him to say so... but not incorrect. If you can't assemble a 3 ring release... you should probably take up bowling. Nick Thanks Nick, that was the point I was trying to get across. And please not that I did admit that the statement was probably too bold comeing from a newbie like me. The intent of the post was not to make an ass out of myself. I just dont understand people who do not put forth the effort to understand their gear, and that is with any sport, activity, job, or otherwise Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Genn 0 #80 October 19, 2005 QuoteThere are people who don't know how to pack their main. Don't know how?..or choose not to? Packing your main is also part of the student progression. QuoteHow can you expect them to perform some simple gear maintance? If students are receiving their USPA A license w/o this knowledge...They are being robbed of proper education and instruction. So Sad... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elisha 1 #81 October 19, 2005 QuoteQuoteThere are people who don't know how to pack their main. Don't know how?..or choose not to? Packing your main is also part of the student progression. QuoteHow can you expect them to perform some simple gear maintance? If students are receiving their USPA A license w/o this knowledge...They are being robbed of proper education and instruction. So Sad... They probably do it once, then promptly forget. And yes, a shame. I procrastinated learning, but have now packed my main around 25 times out of my last 30 jumps. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AMax 0 #82 October 19, 2005 QuoteIf students are receiving their USPA A license w/o this knowledge...They are being robbed of proper education and instruction. The fact that the students are educated about packing doesn't mean that they will still remember how to pack after using a packer for a long time. I firmly believe that people should pack by themselves for al least first few hundred jumps. The reasons are: 1) You learn how to pack quick - important skill because this way you will never be shocked to find out that your packer cannot make it in time for the next load. 2) More importantly, you learn about your gear and how to maintain it - life saving skill. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #83 October 19, 2005 QuoteDon't know how?..or choose not to? Packing your main is also part of the student progression. You learn to pack some main in some rig, once. Mine didn't have a collapsible PC. 7 months later when my rig was finally together, I had a friend give me a refresher because I only retained the general picture. It's much easier when you have one rig and can see some continuity, rather then getting a random vector2/infinity/wings/talon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixlpr 0 #84 October 20, 2005 Why? Brakes and closing might differ, but the rest is the same. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #85 October 20, 2005 QuoteWhy? Brakes and closing might differ, but the rest is the same. when you don't know what you don't know, the differences look pretty substantial. It was bad enough that my wings manual contradicted itself on closing order. Doesn't seem to matter, but how does a low timer know? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
selwynj 0 #86 October 21, 2005 Cleaned mine and my wife's last night. Last cleaned 3 months ago and have done +- 100 jumps since then. Released the 3 rings and massaged the webbing near the 3-rings. I certainly did not know that these become hard as I saw last night. Thanks for the info.“It takes ten years to get ten years’ experience” Eric "tonto" Stephenson D515 PASA Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites