masterrig 1 #26 January 19, 2009 Quote Quote I guess, what got my last nerve is trying to pack and have some dog run his cold nose up my shorts leg in the summertime. Chuck Oh come on chuck, who got your panties all bunched up...oh wait, it was the dog wasnt it? You made a good point in your post about the interpretation of 'well behaved' dogs. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy_Copland 0 #27 January 19, 2009 Hmmmmmm cupcakes. 1338 People aint made of nothin' but water and shit. Until morale improves, the beatings will continue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wrightskyguy 1 #28 January 20, 2009 I guess, what got my last nerve is trying to pack and have some dog run his cold nose up my shorts leg in the summertime. You wish John Wright World's most beloved skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Halfpastniner 0 #29 January 20, 2009 Quote Hmmmmmm cupcakes. BASE 1384 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildcard451 0 #30 January 20, 2009 QuoteSome visiting GF brought this car chasing mutt out and several other divers told her if it bit them they'd take it's head off. Still running around loose right after I landed it jumped up and got my asscheek right by the legstrap hard enough to draw blood with a pinch/abrasion but not a laceration. Took a couple a swipes at it to keep it back deciding if I could get away with dropping my rig and smashing it with my bonehead and not end up in Polk County on some bullshit animal type charge. It got distracted by running down the landing area and grabbing Eric's canopy like a chew toy and putting a couple a good tears in it. F#$%ing mutts. I wanna be there the day the bus finally runs over one of these car chasers and the owners gets all pissed at the driver because they wouldn't control their dog. I'll be cooking the fried rice that day. Is the bitch buying him a new canopy? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #31 January 20, 2009 Quote who watches you dog The kennelOr one of my good friends if they desire to take him out for a walk. I know dogs are issues at dz's and I don't bring him to other dz's without a full care plan in effect. at MY HOME dz everyone knows him and is cool with him. He is a friendly dog and he was raised at the dz. My intent was to actually "change your words" but to add my opinion to it.EDIT: I know that dogs will be dogs but the dog that snapped didnt just snap at my dog. it was nipping and snapping at a lot of people. I would assume the owner though it was a good opp to socialize the dog and he did a good job at keep it tight on the leash but at some point you have to get the dog out of that situation adn as the owner he should have felt some responsibility to stand away from teh crowd with his dog.My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #32 January 20, 2009 Quote Are you justified smashing the mutt that does this in the chops with your helmet after it nips at two others and tears up a canopy? I'd do what ever it took to defend my person and property from injury/damage till I could get away from the animal. Then I'd march over to the owner and demand restitution. The ball would then be in their court. I of course wouldn't be heart broken if they decided to try to take it to the mat.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The_Don 0 #33 January 20, 2009 Just my 2 cents. Why the hell are dogs allowed to run free in the landing area?I am NOT being loud. I'm being enthusiastic! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildcard451 0 #34 January 20, 2009 QuoteJust my 2 cents. Why the hell are dogs allowed to run free in the landing area? Target Practice. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #35 January 20, 2009 QuoteQuoteJust my 2 cents. Why the hell are dogs allowed to run free in the landing area? Target Practice. Exactly! Anybody can hit a target...it's the moving targets that takes real skill.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #36 January 20, 2009 Quote Quote who watches you dog The kennelOr one of my good friends if they desire to take him out for a walk. I know dogs are issues at dz's and I don't bring him to other dz's without a full care plan in effect. at MY HOME dz everyone knows him and is cool with him. He is a friendly dog and he was raised at the dz. My intent was to actually "change your words" but to add my opinion to it.EDIT: I know that dogs will be dogs but the dog that snapped didnt just snap at my dog. it was nipping and snapping at a lot of people. I would assume the owner though it was a good opp to socialize the dog and he did a good job at keep it tight on the leash but at some point you have to get the dog out of that situation adn as the owner he should have felt some responsibility to stand away from teh crowd with his dog. Seems to me, you've 'covered the bases' with your dog. That's a good thing and I can appreciate it. I feel, what it is with me is, those people who have this attitude that their nipping, snapping, yapping doggy is just the cutest thing ever and allow the dog to do whatever it wants. Like the person you mentioned, should be run-off! In all, I like dogs and I like dogs that behave because their owners take the 'time' with their dog. I guess, what it is with me is, I've seen too many dogs at the DZ that just shouldn't be there. You have taken the 'time' with your dog and follow a plan so that your time at the DZ is fun and a good experience. I commend you for that. There should be more like you. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 801 #37 January 20, 2009 Quote it's the moving targets that takes realmad skill. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarkM 0 #38 January 20, 2009 If a dog bit me like that I'd beat the shit out of it so it'd never even think about it again. If it bit a loved one I'd just kill it. It's 100% unacceptable for an animal to bite a person unless it's defending its owner. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #39 January 20, 2009 QuoteIf a dog bit me like that I'd beat the shit out of it so it'd never even think about it again. Without regard to the fact that you beating the shit out of could put it in self-defense mode next time you came close? QuoteIf it bit a loved one I'd just kill it. For that little scratch? Here's hoping the people around you are quite so rash when you make mistakes that cause them injury. QuoteIt's 100% unacceptable for an animal to bite a person unless it's defending its owner. People are animals, and most would be a bit more tolerable if they got some humility bitten into them once in awhile. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 221 #40 January 20, 2009 QuoteQuoteIf a dog bit me like that I'd beat the shit out of it so it'd never even think about it again. Without regard to the fact that you beating the shit out of could put it in self-defense mode next time you came close? QuoteIf it bit a loved one I'd just kill it. For that little scratch? Here's hoping the people around you are quite so rash when you make mistakes that cause them injury. QuoteIt's 100% unacceptable for an animal to bite a person unless it's defending its owner. People are animals, and most would be a bit more tolerable if they got some humility bitten into them once in awhile. Blues, Dave It's HARD to be humble . . .I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #41 January 20, 2009 Quote Quote People are animals, and most would be a bit more tolerable if they got some humility bitten into them once in awhile. Blues, Dave It's HARD to be humble . . . I figured you'd jump on that part, and sorry, but you'll have to look elsewhere for those services. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarkM 0 #42 January 20, 2009 Quote For that little scratch? Here's hoping the people around you are quite so rash when you make mistakes that cause them injury. A dog attacking someone that isn't threating it or its owner is hardly a mistake. I love animals, especially dogs, but if they can't behave properly around people then they need to be put down. It's usually the owner's fault the animal acts that way, but I've yet to see a bad owner turn into a good one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
doug925 0 #43 January 20, 2009 Quote Without regard to the fact that you beating the shit out of could put it in self-defense mode next time you came close? I really would not care the next time. B/c there better not be one. Either the dog is destroyed, or kept away from me after a bite. Quote For that little scratch? Here's hoping the people around you are quite so rash when you make mistakes that cause them injury. If it bit my wife who is already afraid of dogs, then puppy would be handed back to the owner broken in half. Quote It's 100% unacceptable for an animal to bite a person unless it's defending its owner. +1I have never developed indigestion from eating my words. Winston Churchill Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtnesbitt 0 #44 January 20, 2009 So how did the owner of the dog react to its behavior? It bit you as well as others and ripped up a canopy because it was doing things it shouldnt be in places it shouldnt be. Did anyone confront her? Did manifest and the DZO tolerate this? So far we've been discussing our opinions of having dogs at the DZ, but we havent really talked about dogs in the LZ. This isnt really debatable as it's obviously a hazard and should never be allowed to happen. So my question is besides your injury and the damage, what was the reaction of the entire DZ to this incident? What did the owner say or do, the DZO, other jumpers, etc."If this post needs to be moderated I would prefer it to be completly removed and not edited and butchered into a disney movie" - DorkZone Hero Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #45 January 20, 2009 I agree with most of what you're saying. Dogs shouldn't be allowed to roam during flight operations, shouldn't be allowed near parachutes if they have any inclination to damage them, shouldn't be allowed near other people if there's any indication that they will bite, and should be cleaned up after. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #46 January 20, 2009 I love dogs, and I have always had dogs. In my previous life, I was a dog. Just as there are places where small kids don't belong, there are places where dogs don't belong. Dogs do not belong at DZs. There is no reason to bring a dog to the DZ - period. If you can't leave your dog, or board your dog, or get a dog-sitter, so that you can go to the DZ, then you simply can't go to the DZ. End of story. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The_Don 0 #47 January 20, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Just my 2 cents. Why the hell are dogs allowed to run free in the landing area? Target Practice. Exactly! Anybody can hit a target...it's the moving targets that takes real skill. Sorry, but I fail to see the humor. This sounds unsafe for both jumper & dog. I am NOT being loud. I'm being enthusiastic! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #48 January 20, 2009 Quote Hell yeah it went to the DZO and the owner. The canopy is being repaired, the dog got an air rifle in the ass and the owner apologized but still never reacted when being told earlier it was trying to bite people. The reaction of the DZ was screw the dog we don't want it out here again. DZO banned the dog- it won't be back. Fucking A! Now THAT's taking care of business! As for stupid dogs chasing the bus and then running in front of it, why stop? Fuck 'em. I used to stop for them all the time when I was younger, but I just don't care anymore. If the owners don't care to keep them where they should be, and they get in my way, whatever happens, happens. Sorry to be a prick, but even a cop will tell you it's better to just hit one rather than slam the brakes or swerve and risk your own life and/or hit and damage other peoples' cars and/or property. I have hit a few dogs in my lifetime because they were stupid and I still tried to stop in time."Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #49 January 20, 2009 QuoteI love dogs, and I have always had dogs. In my previous life, I was a dog. Just as there are places where small kids don't belong, there are places where dogs don't belong. Dogs do not belong at DZs. There is no reason to bring a dog to the DZ - period. If you can't leave your dog, or board your dog, or get a dog-sitter, so that you can go to the DZ, then you simply can't go to the DZ. End of story. I work 5 days a week at a "real" job, and 6 months out of the year I work the other 2 days of the week at the DZ. Boarding my dog for my only two days "off" per week is a non-starter, so instead she goes to the DZ. During jumping operations, she is either tethered outside my RV, crated inside my RV, or on a leash being walked. When jumping operations are over for the day, most or all parachutes up off the floor, and any kind of "banquet" food put away, I let her roam. Being able to run on a 60 acre airport is good exercise for her, and having her with me is good for both of us. As long as she doesn't hurt anyone or damage any equipment, I fail to see the problem. Additionally, any different approach I can think of would have poorer results all around. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
funjumper101 15 #50 January 20, 2009 QuoteI love dogs, and I have always had dogs. In my previous life, I was a dog. Just as there are places where small kids don't belong, there are places where dogs don't belong. Dogs do not belong at DZs. There is no reason to bring a dog to the DZ - period. If you can't leave your dog, or board your dog, or get a dog-sitter, so that you can go to the DZ, then you simply can't go to the DZ. End of story. My answer to you is - Who the fuck are you to make rules for the rest of the world? I bring my dogs to the DZ. I have four. They are well mannered and properly trained. They don't run around loose during jump ops. I am a responsible pet owner. I clean up after them, no matter where I go. My dogs have been welcomed at every DZ they have visited. My dogs are better behaved than most DZ children. They are a lot more fun to hang out with than some of the arrogant young punks who have entered the sport recently. I am very much against poorly trained dogs and their irresponsible owners. Those dogs, and their people, should stay at home and not go out in public. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites