do6151 0 #1 October 23, 2005 Im shopping around for rigs and i dont know what to get. I am a novice freeflyer and want a comfortable frefly frendly rig except voodo. I am also flying a camera. I was looking at a javelin odessy because its a nice looking rig and very comfortable, but it doenst look freefly frendly even though the entire PD freefly teem flies them. Any help would be greatly apprciated. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boozy 0 #2 October 23, 2005 Go with a Mirage G4, I love mine, and in my opinion they are the best looking rigs out there. It is the finest container for freeflying. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GravityGirl 0 #3 October 23, 2005 Why doesn't the Javelin look freefly friendly to you? In realtiy almost every rig on the market today is freefly friendly. If you are buying new that is. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Peace and Blue Skies! Bonnie ==>Gravity Gear! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MB38 0 #4 October 23, 2005 You're flying a camera with a B license?I really don't know what I'm talking about. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob.dino 1 #5 October 23, 2005 Pretty much every new container is freefly-friendly. Vector3 Talon FS Javelin Odyssey Aerodyne Icon Mirage Wings Infinity etc etc. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
do6151 0 #6 October 23, 2005 The reason i say javalin is not freefly frendly is beacause of the main closing flap. it can open and expose the pin, but then again that might not be and issue with the newer rigs thats why im asking. As far as the camera im close to 200 jumps and i just baught my optick and my box is in the mail, by the time i have my rig and camera mounted i will have over 200 jumps. IM working on studying now to get my C licence and i have recieved canopy training from Heath Richardson earlier this summer.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob.dino 1 #7 October 24, 2005 QuoteThe reason i say javalin is not freefly frendly is beacause of the main closing flap. it can open and expose the pin, but then again that might not be and issue with the newer rigs thats why im asking. Fair enough. I've heard people argue both points of view on that one. If you're not comfortable with it, all the other containers on the list have top-quality pin protection and will do the job nicely. Bonnie (GravityGear) knows much more about gear than I do, so you can PM her with specifics about the comfort/appearance/price of the various rigs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyangel2 2 #8 October 24, 2005 QuoteYou're flying a camera with a B license? He's doing freeflying, they all have a camera.May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #9 October 24, 2005 I've got over 1000 jumps on my Jav now. I had issues originally when I way overstuffed the container but in the last 800 jumps since I put the right canopy in there I have had the flap open maybe 5 times and those were all due to other issues like sit trains snagging the flap. A Jav is what Alchemy uses. They are as freefly safe as any new modern design on the market.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #10 October 24, 2005 QuoteQuoteYou're flying a camera with a B license? He's doing freeflying, they all have a camera. ...and tattoos, and piercings. I think those requirements are in the BSR's now."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GTAVercetti 0 #11 October 24, 2005 QuoteQuoteQuoteYou're flying a camera with a B license? He's doing freeflying, they all have a camera. ...and tattoos, and piercings. I think those requirements are in the BSR's now. Shit, I need to get a camera and tattoos stat! Why yes, my license number is a palindrome. Thank you for noticing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tdog 0 #12 October 24, 2005 QuoteQuoteQuoteYou're flying a camera with a B license? He's doing freeflying, they all have a camera. ...and tattoos, and piercings. I think those requirements are in the BSR's now. Shit, now I know why I suck at freeflying... Tat, stat! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Travman 6 #13 October 24, 2005 Why not a voodoo? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zoter 0 #14 October 24, 2005 Quote He's doing freeflying, they all have a camera. ...and tattoos, and piercings. I think those requirements are in the BSR's now. And I think I read in the BSR 's you needed a closed mind with outdated stereotypical views to be a rel.work flyer...... ahhh I see you have already read those requirements....good boy ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tso-d_chris 0 #15 October 24, 2005 Quote was looking at a javelin odessy because its a nice looking rig and very comfortable, but it doenst look freefly frendly even though the entire PD freefly teem flies them. The Odyssey is an excellent rig, well suited for freeflying. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #16 October 24, 2005 Quote[And I think I read in the BSR 's you needed a closed mind with outdated stereotypical views to be a rel.work flyer...... ahhh I see you have already read those requirements....good boy ! Hey! Show some respect for your elders, or I'll beat you with my cane! [walking away muttering..] Little whippersnapper...he probably can't even do a style tuck."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fast 0 #17 October 24, 2005 Threads like this always bring out the "Buy this its the best" because that's what the person has. Naturally they think its great if they bought it. There are lots of little details that go into some rigs that make them better than others. Look for them. Get the opinions of some riggers about fixing / changing a rig if it gets messed up or needs harness altering later down the road. Does it downsize well so you can still use it when you have 800 more jumps and want a size or 2 smaller canopy? Try a bunch on see what is comfortable to you. Find one that is in your budget. Find one that you can get at the time you want it. or learn to be patient if you aren't. There are so many things that go into buying a rig...~D Where troubles melt like lemon drops Away above the chimney tops That's where you'll find me. Swooping is taking one last poke at the bear before escaping it's cave - davelepka Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,446 #18 October 24, 2005 Look around where you jump -- whatever is most popular will be familiar to the riggers, and that's a good thing. People will be able to give you little hints about fit, etc, and you'll be able to try on others' to see what you like. Then go find the oldest container of that type on the dropzone, and see how well it held up. Look at the stitching, look at what faded, look at what's abraded, look at whether there are high points that are really obvious with age. See if it's what you want your rig to look like in 5 or whatever years. Virtually any new rig will be OK for freeflying unless you abuse it. Don't buy one figuring it'll be tight in the beginning and then you'll downsize. It'll pack and wear like a brick, and it's much harder on the container. It's better to buy the right size, and then downsize one size, and end up with a softer more comfortable rig that conforms to you. You can make a smaller closing loop for one size. Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deuce 1 #19 October 25, 2005 Wings. See? That was easy! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zoter 0 #20 October 25, 2005 QuoteHey! Show some respect for your elders, or I'll beat you with my cane! [walking away muttering..] Little whippersnapper...he probably can't even do a style tuck Dont post like an ass then ..... (btw I cant.....well I mean I have not tried a 'style tuck'... but damn I want one of those tight rubber suits !) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #21 October 25, 2005 QuoteDont post like an ass then ..... There is this concept called "humor". Other people seem to understand it."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tso-d_chris 0 #22 October 25, 2005 QuoteIm shopping around for rigs and i dont know what to get. I am a novice freeflyer and want a comfortable frefly frendly rig except voodo. I am also flying a camera. I was looking at a javelin odessy because its a nice looking rig and very comfortable, but it doenst look freefly frendly even though the entire PD freefly teem flies them. Any help would be greatly apprciated. I'm pretty sure Black Majik fly Javelins, w/o problems. They are a 4-way team that turn all their points in a back to earth/ belly to sky orientation. That would make the Javelin very freefly friendly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ojibwe 0 #23 October 25, 2005 go with wings MB 3864 Urantia Book and RUSH fan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #24 October 25, 2005 QuoteIm shopping around for rigs and i dont know what to get. I am a novice freeflyer and want a comfortable frefly frendly rig except voodo. I am also flying a camera. I was looking at a javelin odessy because its a nice looking rig and very comfortable, but it doenst look freefly frendly even though the entire PD freefly teem flies them. Any help would be greatly apprciated. ____________________________________ Shop around, try different rigs on. Test jump them. It's your money. Get what is best for you. As was also mentioned, the harness-containers today are all free-fly friendly, RW friendly and well, just really friendly. Don't get talked into something you don't really like, just because Joe Shmo has one. You don't want to be cussin' that rig later on. Check-out Mfgr's. web-sites, talk with riggers. Spend your money wisely. It's a big investment. Don't rush the process. JMO. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zoter 0 #25 October 25, 2005 Somebody of your experience should know better than to post such a juvenile remark.....even 'in humor' Thats just an excuse.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
