JohnMitchell 16 #26 November 23, 2008 Quote Quote 52 foreign jumpers spending a week jumping here would count about as 1 active US jumper. Do you see my logic there? Only if every USPA jumper lives on a 7 day a week DZ, does not have a job, and is independently wealthy. I know that when I visit the US I jump 25-40 times a week; do you think the average USPA jumper does? I know some that make about that many, but you're right, most don't. I still disagree with the number of foreign jumpers you think are in this country. You say 50,000? I say it's a lower number, not skewing my odds estimate too much. Are there any actuarials out there that would like to chime in now? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BaronVonBoll 0 #27 November 23, 2008 So many people in this country are concerned about the prospect of dieing that they forget the purpose of life is to "BE ALIVE"! weather that is sky diving rock climbing skiing or reading a good book.I f we spend all our time doing nothing because its "DANGEROUS" we will all end up locked in our houses working on the phone from home and dieing of radon poisoning! The desire to live and the NEED to FEEL ALIVE is what separates sky divers and our like from the rest of humanity and THEY will NEVER understand!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hairy_Haggis 1 #28 November 23, 2008 QuoteSo many people in this country are concerned about the prospect of dieing that they forget the purpose of life is to "BE ALIVE"! weather that is sky diving rock climbing skiing or reading a good book. HEY! don't underestimate the danger involved in a good book! Paper cuts can be nasty!It's not the speed that kills ya, it's the sudden stops! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenut557 0 #29 November 23, 2008 I am a statistician for a living, and trust me, numbers are misleading. First off, even if the 1 in 1,000 skydives statistic were true, you're talking 99.9% chance of NOT dying. There are plenty of other things in life with that same statistic. You're 99.9% likely to NOT die from that vaccine you get; you're 99.9% sure that condom is going to work; etc. Second, 1 in 1,000 seems like a very high rate anyways, since the denominator seems a bit low. If you wanted a TRUE picture of what your chances of dying were, you would have to take the total number of deaths divided by the total number of exposed (or total number that year to have ever jumped) - which I highly doubt is only 1,000. But it would make more sense to separate out the odds of death for fun jumpers from tandem jumps. Yet, what's the point of all this anyways? Seems a bit morbid to focus on those numbers if you ask me. I mean, I don't swear off sex because I'm scared of that 0.1% chance of getting knocked up . I'm a big dork...and love statistics...but they're often misused and misused dangerously, I might add. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #30 November 23, 2008 Statistics...pfft...manipulate them how you will. What I want to know is does this mean we all get a number? What number should I choose? Should I choose #2 or #999 to be safest?My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
