Andre1 0 #1 November 20, 2005 Does anyone have a canopy with a design on the top skin? Does anyone know of a manufacturer that can do a design for the top skin? Finally, does anyone know where I can purchase enough material for two cells where the design is painted alongside the original color? I ordered a triathlon and they say they can only do a design on the bottom skin. My design will be on cells 1 and 2 of a 7 cell canopy. I have been told by very respected people in the sport that if there was a design on the top skin the canopy will not fly straight and would have to be adjusted by toggles (not what I want). The only other option is to paint the design when they initially color the fabric. Because the canopy is made in South Africa and canopy manufacturers buy fabric in large rolls this may not be possible. Thanks Where there is a will there is a way. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justinb138 0 #2 November 20, 2005 Why would you want to do that? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andre1 0 #3 November 20, 2005 There are a few movies where there are skydivers with these type of canopies. If it can safely be done I want one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks 0 #4 November 20, 2005 i believe P.D. will make whatever design you want anywhere you want. but im not sure about that, contact them and ask. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #5 November 20, 2005 paint is the easiest, but the paint must be of a quality which does not modify the texture of the fabric. You can ask to a sailmaker. we used to have the logo of our sponsor on the spinnaker and the main sail of the boat. Never faded or cracked or anything after 2 seasons. might also be less bulky than added threads. You can see quite rad designs on paragliders. I think everything is possible for the design, it's just a question of know-how and money and time... there might be a downside which would be the resistance to opening and high inside pressure... But I'm in NO WAY a canopy manufacturer... Ask them, ask different manufacturers, different possibilites (sowing, painting...) edited to add : oh yeah, please also post a drawing/scheme of your design so we can have an idea.scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andre1 0 #6 November 21, 2005 edited to add : oh yeah, please also post a drawing/scheme of your design so we can have an idea. -------------------------------------------------------- It is in a winzip format and I can not figure out how to post it. Basically, cells 1 and 2 are navy blue and there are six white stars on each cell. Thanks for your advice. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TaylorC 0 #7 November 21, 2005 uncompress the file then post what is inside the winzip file Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #8 November 21, 2005 I think you mean Royal Blue, don't you? That is 'flag' blue. I like it when the first 3 or 4 cells is blue, then alternating red/white. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andre1 0 #9 November 21, 2005 I think I figured out how to post the winzip file. My canopy will not have "USA" on it. It will just have the stars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sabre1Lucke 0 #10 November 21, 2005 I have a canopy from Performance Variable. It' a demon and it has a design on the top skin and on the bottom skin. I also know the PD is also doing this on request but it will cost around 500 $ extra. I saw it once on their old website but it's not there anymore. I believe that they used F111 fabric for this. I'm not sure if they will do this for canopies other then PD do. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andre1 0 #11 November 21, 2005 The file is too large to upload. Sorry about that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #12 November 21, 2005 QuoteThe file is too large to upload. Sorry about that.please resize.... and if it's not USA, is it Evil Knievel ?? Oh and if it's just stars, you can do them out of repair ripstop (will stick and not affect the material)scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andre1 0 #13 November 21, 2005 This should do it. Thanks Nicholas. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andre1 0 #14 November 24, 2005 This is a follow up to my original post. I am posting this to those that were interested. I also hope if someone were to do a future search on the topic of a canopy with a custom design of a country’s flag they will find this information useful. I contacted Allan Hewitt of Sky Science in Spain. He designed and flew the canopy in the James Bond film, “Die Another Day”. If you remember, the canopy had a Union Jack on the top and bottom skin. His company will be doing my design. He stated the flight characteristics will not be affected because he uses the "appliqué method" for the design. Aerodyne will deliver my Triathlon with no design. My cells will be blue, blue, red, white, red, white and red on the top and bottom skin. I will ship my canopy to Mr. Hewitt in Spain. He will add six white stars to the two blue cells. This will be a total of 24 white stars. Thank you to everyone who helped me with this. ….there is a way Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pilotdave 0 #15 November 24, 2005 Any chance you could let us know what it's gonna cost? The question of getting a design on a canopy comes up a lot... Dave Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andre1 0 #16 November 25, 2005 The 24 stars will cost 650 Euros (approx. US$765). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #17 November 26, 2005 Ouch.. for that cost you might as well just buy a second used canopy to replace that one when you downsize from it. Also kiss that money goodbye if you ever sell the canopy since no one will pay extra for that on a used canopy.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davelepka 4 #18 November 28, 2005 Yeah, really, keep in mind that you'll most likey want to downsize from this canopy fairly soon. This is often why it's suggested that newbies NOT buy new gear, as they will be changing it up too soon for it to be worth it. Also, what if the Triathalon turns out not to be the canopy for you? Unitl you have a handful of jumps on various canopies, you'll never know what really floats your boat for the long haul. Even then, canopies don't last forever, and neither do the logos people put on them. One cutaway, and it could all be gone. It seems like a misguided investment, that would make ALOT more sense if it was saved for a future canopy. Anyway good luck with whatever you do, and post pics if you do get it (air to air of course because you can't see the topskin from the ground). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andre1 0 #19 November 28, 2005 I am getting a Triathlon 190 and I will be at a wingloading of 1.0. I had long talks with my instructors about how long I will be at 1.0. I am (and my DZ) satisfied with my purchase. It is what I want. I like nice, soft, safe and forgiving landings for now. I have been riding a 600cc sportbike motorcycle for 4 years. I am about to get another 600cc sportbike motorcycle. All of my friends tell me I want the Yamaha R1 or the Honda CBR1000RR (both 1000cc). No…I will be happy with a Yamaha R6 (600cc) bike. I rather ride the heck out of a R6 than kill myself on a R1. At my DZ my instructors and experienced jumpers have the high performance canopies and I watch them fly them. I prefer to learn to fly the Triathlon 190 and get real good at that. I talked to jumpers flying Triathlons at my DZ and read the reviews on the canopy. I am happy with my purchase. Some people like Ferraris and some like Mazda Miatas. I will certainly post pictures. Thanks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sabre1Lucke 0 #20 November 29, 2005 I was thinking the same when I started skydiving. Now I have a Demon 100 loaded at 2.07. By the way a Yamaha R6 is faster on the tracks than the R1 Just wanted to say that you can change your mind faster then you think. Once you get the virus it's too late Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cobaltdan 0 #21 November 29, 2005 some of our onyx canopy has <><> both top and bottom, as does our new prototype in testing (no name yet). we can do top skin designs but it is a pain and would not be economical for a one off custom. sincerelyDaniel Preston <><> atairaerodynamics.com (sport) atairaerospace.com (military) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IanHarrop 42 #22 November 29, 2005 QuoteThe 24 stars will cost 650 Euros (approx. US$765). Are they also doing the "USA" lettering for that price?"Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andre1 0 #23 November 29, 2005 No, I just asked for the stars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Teixido 0 #24 November 29, 2005 Quotesome of our onyx canopy has <><> both top and bottom, as does our new prototype in testing (no name yet). ..................... Sorry for going off topic but is this a prototype for the military market or the sports market? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cobaltdan 0 #25 November 29, 2005 both actually. it is a high aspect ratio 9 cell. steve curtis has been test jumping a 95 and we just sent him a 75 for review.Daniel Preston <><> atairaerodynamics.com (sport) atairaerospace.com (military) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites